Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Friday, 4 March 2011, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Grantchester. The answering member was Lord Redesdale.

Dog Control Bill [HL]

Dog Control Bill (HL). Lords committee stage. Clause 1 : Responsibility for dogs, debated and agreed to. Clause 2: Control of dogs, agreed to as amended. Clause 3: Dog control notices, agreed to as amended. Clauses 4 to 13 agreed to, with clauses 6, 7, 8, 10, 12, 13 agreed to as amended. Schedule agreed to. Bill reported with amendments (HL Bill 51 2010-12).

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 725 c1295-313
Session: 2010-12
Legislative stage: Committee stage
Chamber / Committee: House of Lords chamber
Related items: Dog Control Bill (HL). As amended in Committee.
Friday, 4 March 2011
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House of Lords; Dog Control Bill (HL).
Wednesday, 26 May 2010
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House of Lords
Proceeding contributions: Lord Redesdale | 725 c1312-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I echo the words of the noble Lord, Lord Richard. It would be excellent if the Government ...; Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 725 c1301 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I accept what the noble Lord says about dogs in cities, on leads and all the rest. Is he t...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1300-1 (Link to this contribution) This is one of the major problems of legislating in this area. However, the Bill provides that an au...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1300 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall also speak to Amendments 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 15 and 16. The reason for these amendments...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1299 (Link to this contribution) 1: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, leave out ““No person shall”” and insert ““It is an offence to””; Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c1299 (Link to this contribution) My Lords—; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1299 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my amendments were not tabled last night, but they ended up on the Marshalled List then be...; Lord Grantchester | 725 c1298 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may interrupt the noble Lord briefly. I did say that I had made several attempts...; Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 725 c1302 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to prolong the proceedings, but the noble Lord has already admitted that a d...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1302 (Link to this contribution) Yes, my Lords, but a dog on a lead is not dangerously out of control. A dog off a lead would be dang...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1302 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on the issues raised we believe that these would be proportionate responses. The issue of ...; Lord Grantchester | 725 c1301-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments by and large improves the drafting yet there may still be one or ...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1302 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am certainly not arrogant enough to assume that I could dictate to the magistrates how t...; Lord Richard | 725 c1302 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before we leave this subject, does the noble Lord, Lord Redesdale, not accept—he should ac...; Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 725 c1301 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord and I accept his assurance that the example I have given i...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1301 (Link to this contribution) Yes, my Lords. However, I shall cite an occasion when I was in my own woodland and someone was tresp...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1301 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if they cause fear that is a situation. However, we should take this in context. If noble ...; Lord Skelmersdale | 725 c1301 (Link to this contribution) That said, my Lords, in the instance that my noble friend has just given, surely the dogs were out o...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1302 (Link to this contribution) 2: Clause 2, page 1, line 13, leave out ““aggressive or”” 3: Clause 2, page 1, line 15, after ““do...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1303 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there was seen to be a problem with the original drafting of the Bill, which would have ma...; Lord Richard | 725 c1303 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may ask the noble Lord a question. He has taken out ““aggressive or”” from Claus...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1303 (Link to this contribution) 4: Clause 2, page 1, line 16, at beginning insert ““protected””; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1303-4 (Link to this contribution) 8: Clause 2, page 1, line 24, at end insert— ““( ) the person or protected animal was in a place whe...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1304 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the purpose of Amendments 8, 9 and 18 is to clarify the situations in which it is reasonab...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1303 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will have to look at that. There is obviously another stage of the Bill and I will look ...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1303 (Link to this contribution) 5: Clause 2, page 1, line 17, leave out ““keep a dog that has attacked”” and insert ““allow a dog fo...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1304-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, asks me to tread on difficult and prickly ground. That is bey...; Lord Grantchester | 725 c1305 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 8 would allow for guard dogs with adequate safeguards to be outside the scope of the noble...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1305-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am slightly surprised. I do not think that the Bill gives any leeway for guard dogs outs...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1306 (Link to this contribution) 10: Clause 3, page 2, line 28, leave out subsections (5) and (6) and insert— ““(5) In this Act an ““...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1306-7 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak also to Amendment 10A. I apologise to noble Lords; on reviewing the amendments, it was...; Lord Richard | 725 c1307 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to turn this debate into a drafting session, but there is a phrase in this a...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1307 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord’s eye for detail is legendary in this regard. I will look again at the wording at a l...; Lord Skelmersdale | 725 c1307 (Link to this contribution) When the noble Lord is looking at these two proposed new subsections to Clause 3, perhaps he could l...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1307 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the wording of this amendment is to try to give as much latitude as possible but also to e...; Lord Skelmersdale | 725 c1307 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am afraid that my noble friend has misunderstood my point, which I may have abbreviated ...; Lord Richard | 725 c1308 (Link to this contribution) I am a bit surprised that that is the noble Lord’s intention. I thought that ““appropriate national ...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1308 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the RSPCA would not take on the role of an enforcement agency on this, and doggy quangos w...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1308 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the appropriate authority is the one that would be the most logical home in any area for t...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1310 (Link to this contribution) 13: Clause 7, page 5, line 29, at end insert— ““( ) Where a court so orders the destruction of a dog...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1309 (Link to this contribution) 10A: Clause 3, page 2, line 34, at end insert— ““( ) Any authorised officer serving a dog control no...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1309-10 (Link to this contribution) 11: Clause 6, page 5, line 3, leave out ““A local”” and insert ““An appointing”” 12: Clause 6, pag...; Lord Grantchester | 725 c1308 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this area highlights the very nature of dog legislation to encompass all the technicalitie...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1308-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the approach of the Bill is not to bring about savings, and I am rather surprised by the p...; Lord Campbell of Alloway | 725 c1308 (Link to this contribution) If the noble Lord will forgive me, my noble friend is totally right. You cannot have a statute which...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1308 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, under the present enforcement of dog legislation, there are a number of different bodies u...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1310 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the purpose of Amendment 13 is that a court may issue an order for the destruction of a do...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1310 (Link to this contribution) 14: Clause 8, page 6, line 6, leave out ““A local”” and insert ““An appointing”” Amendment 14 agree...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1310-1 (Link to this contribution) 15: Clause 10, page 6, line 29, leave out subsection (1) 16: Clause 10, page 6, line 41, leave out...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1311 (Link to this contribution) 17: Clause 12, page 8, line 5, at end insert— ““( ) the Dangerous Dogs Act 1989;””; Lord Richard | 725 c1312 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before we leave Committee, I have a simple thing to say. The noble Lord will have realised...; Lord De Mauley | 725 c1312 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think my words in the clause stand part debate at the outset of the Committee were very ...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1311 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 17 repeals the Dangerous Dogs Act 1989. The Act amends the Dogs Act 1871, which ...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1311 (Link to this contribution) 18: Clause 13, page 8, line 23, at end insert ““or a person licensed by a body established by the Pr...; Lord Skelmersdale | 725 c1311 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I notice that paragraph 3 of the Schedule says that the, "““database operator must … provi...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1311 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have given an undertaking to look at the word ““appropriate”” again. I will obviously di...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1297-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I before answer some of the points that have been raised I want to say that the purpose of...; Lord De Mauley | 725 c1296-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may say at the outset that, like the noble Lord, Lord Grantchester, I am gratefu...; Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c1297 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord, Lord Redesdale, has a chance to respond to this clause stand part d...; Lord Grantchester | 725 c1295-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I pay tribute to the noble Lord, Lord Redesdale, for his constant championing of a better ...; Lord Redesdale | 725 c1299 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, just a second; I am coming to the point which the noble Lord raised. I then sat in on the ...; Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 725 c1300 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as a dog owner and I regret not having taken part in these proceedin...; Lord Whitty | 725 c1304 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord referred in passing to the Security Industry Authority. Is he aware that la...
Subjects: Animal welfare Dogs Domestic animals Local government Police Dangerous dogs
Legislation: Dog Control Bill (HL) 2010-12
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Dog Control Bill [HL]

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