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Debate on bill on Wednesday, 23 March 2011, in the House of Lords.

Public Bodies Bill [HL]

Public Bodies Bill (HL). Lords report stage first day.

Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
726 c739-93, c804-38 
Session
2010-12
Department
Cabinet Office
Legislative stage
Report stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Related items
Public Bodies Bill (HL). As amended in Committee.
Wednesday, 9 March 2011
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 726 c777-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise in support of each of these amendments, so effectively moved by the noble Lord, Lor...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c779 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Low of Dalston, for introducing this amendment and for the di...
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Viscount Slim | 726 c777 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak because of my work with veterans. I remind the Minister, if he needs reminding, th...
Lord Borrie | 726 c782-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the course of many debates on the Bill, the question has repeatedly been raised, ““If s...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 726 c781-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the effect of these two amendments would be to move Consumer Focus—the National Consumer C...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 726 c781 (Link to this contribution) 13: Schedule 1, page 16, line 6, leave out ““National Consumer Council (““Consumer Focus””).””
Lord Low of Dalston | 726 c780-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken, in all cases with a great deal more eloquence tha...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c779-80 (Link to this contribution) Well, I think that Members of the House would acknowledge that and would acknowledge from their dire...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c779 (Link to this contribution) I had not really thought about mentioning Ipswich until I got up, but it is not just disabled people...
Lord Henley | 726 c771-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness refers to Ministers coming and going. One of my noble friends quoted fr...
Bishop of Exeter | 726 c773 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for giving way. I do not think that he has answered the really important point ...
Baroness Wilkins | 726 c775-6 (Link to this contribution) I have my name to these amendments and I regret that, due to illness, I was unable to speak in Commi...
Baroness Hayman | 726 c774 (Link to this contribution) I have to inform the House that if this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment 21 by reason...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c776-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is not on this amendment. I might have kept my head down had the noble Lord, Lord ...
Baroness Grey-Thompson | 726 c776 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I also have my name to this amendment, and I endorse the words of the noble Lord, Lord Low...
Lord Henley | 726 c773 (Link to this contribution) I do not accept that point. There are outside bodies that can offer advice to the Government and we ...
Lord Low of Dalston | 726 c774 (Link to this contribution) 10: Schedule 1, page 15, line 25, leave out ““Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee.””
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 726 c804-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 16A tabled in my name and in the names of several of my noble f...
Baroness Quin | 726 c813-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment that my noble friend Lord Beecham has tabled and to which I have p...
Lord Grantchester | 726 c814-5 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to Amendment 17A in the absence of my noble friend Lord Liddle. In doing so I declare ...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 726 c806-11 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in Committee I dealt with the historical debate in the Labour movement and the very signif...
Lord Beecham | 726 c811-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very much endorse what my noble friend Lord Campbell-Savours said. I remind him that Mar...
Lord Hoyle | 726 c818-9 (Link to this contribution) That might be the view of the noble Lord, but I am afraid that he is not living in the real world. H...
Lord Cavendish of Furness | 726 c818 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I crave the indulgence of the House in intervening in a debate in which I have not previou...
Lord Empey | 726 c816-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had the opportunity to make some remarks on this issue at Second Reading. I do not belie...
Lord Clark of Windermere | 726 c819-21 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the case made by my noble friends through their various amendments. In doing so,...
Lord Whitty | 726 c784-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as my noble friend Lord Borrie has hinted, I declare a recent interest as a former chair o...
Lord Beecham | 726 c785-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like many Members of your Lordships’ House, I am an unqualified admirer of the work of cit...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 726 c786-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we support the amendment of my noble friend Lady Hayter. I thank all the other noble Lords...
Baroness Wilcox | 726 c788-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the debate today has reiterated the concerns about the proposals for reform expressed by t...
Baroness Wilcox | 726 c789-90 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, and that is why the consultation has been in-depth, why it is continuing now and why the chi...
Baroness Oppenheim-Barnes | 726 c789 (Link to this contribution) To be given all these powers and functions, and to carry them out well, they will need not just extr...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c793 (Link to this contribution) 14: Schedule 1, page 16, line 7, at end insert— ““Plant Varieties and Seeds Tribunal.”” 15: Schedu...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 726 c790-1 (Link to this contribution) I first thank my noble friends Lord Borrie, Lord Whitty, Lord Beecham and Lord Stevenson, and the no...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 726 c804 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am still surprised as to why the Government are seeking to move forward with local enter...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 726 c804 (Link to this contribution) 16: Schedule 1, page 16, line 12, leave out ““Regional development agency for the East Midlands.””
Baroness Quin | 726 c760 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome that we have been able to have this debate. I had originally expected to sum up ...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 726 c764-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the right reverend Prelates the Bishop of Norwich and the Bishop of Exete...
Bishop of Exeter | 726 c765-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very pleased to support the amendment. Like the noble Lord, Lord Knight, I do so with...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c763 (Link to this contribution) 8: Schedule 1, page 15, line 12, at end insert ““for areas in England”” Amendment 8 agreed.
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 726 c764 (Link to this contribution) 9: Schedule 1, page 15, line 18, leave out ““Commission for Rural Communities.””
Lord Myners | 726 c769-70 (Link to this contribution) I have no interests to declare. I have never chaired a rural agency. I now understand why: the noble...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c770 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have been trying hard to be good, but I am afraid I have now been tempted by some compel...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 726 c766-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should have declared before speaking to the last amendment that I have an interest as a ...
Lord Marlesford | 726 c768-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a great deal of sympathy with all three speeches that have just been made. I declar...
Baroness Quin | 726 c770-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise briefly to support the amendment of my noble friend and the right reverend Prelates...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 726 c834 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am slightly puzzled that the noble Baroness says that the opposition Benches do not agre...
Lord Whitty | 726 c834-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is also on this amendment. Indeed, it was my amendment in Committee to which the n...
Baroness Rawlings | 726 c835 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on Report there is time for a noble Lord to ask just one question after the Minister has s...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 726 c831-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am delighted that the noble Lord, Lord Taylor of Holbeach, has come in behind an amendme...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 726 c831 (Link to this contribution) 19: Schedule 1, page 16, line 20, leave out ““Security Industry Authority.””
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 726 c833-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise that I did not stand up before. As the name of the noble Lord, Lord Taylor, is...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 726 c832-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment removes the Security Industry Authority from the list of public bodies that ...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 726 c829 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very disappointed by the Minister’s response. I thank all noble Lords who have spoken...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 726 c829 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his reply and for his offer to keep us informed of the c...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 726 c829 (Link to this contribution) 16A: Schedule 1, page 16, leave out lines 12 to 19
Lord Beecham | 726 c828 (Link to this contribution) Will the Government consult on the basis of all or nothing or will they approach each case in each r...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 726 c828 (Link to this contribution) The letter to my noble friend refers to a nominated single national contractor. Could the Minister g...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c828 (Link to this contribution) When we are in a position to make an announcement about that, we shall. I am not in a position to do...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c826-8 (Link to this contribution) I think the noble Lord is under a misapprehension. The difficulty with RDAs was that they had clearl...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 726 c826 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister refers to the problem of borders but how are the Government dealing with the ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c824-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there might be a change of tone with my contribution to this debate. This is a serious mat...
Lord Prescott | 726 c822-4 (Link to this contribution) Garden centres, garden festivals, you can pick the word you want. I think that the one in Liverpool ...
Lord Prescott | 726 c821-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome this opportunity to talk about the RDAs; I played some part in their creation a ...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 726 c835 (Link to this contribution) 20: Schedule 1, page 16, line 21, leave out ““Valuation Tribunal Service.””
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 726 c835 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for her response to my amendment. As I have said on several occasions...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 726 c835 (Link to this contribution) I remind the noble Lord that the Companion says: "““Only the mover of an amendment … speaks after th...
Lord Whitty | 726 c835 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister was not replying to the debate. The amendment was moved by my noble friend Lo...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 726 c838 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response and I also thank my noble friend Lord Hunt of Kings ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c836-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I happily associate myself with the remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, because we all s...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 726 c835 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 20 would remove the Valuation Tribunal Service from the Schedule. I am not quite...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c739 (Link to this contribution) 1: Clause 1, page 1, line 3, leave out ““Subject to section 16,””
Baroness Byford | 726 c751-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for the fact that, for health reasons, I could not unfortunately participate i...
Lord Empey | 726 c752-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are not going to get consistency throughout the United Kingdom on this because in North...
Baroness Quin | 726 c749-51 (Link to this contribution) It was 3p above—so this protection was not necessary. However, as many of my noble friends and other...
Earl of Caithness | 726 c755 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Clark, induces me to get to my feet, if only to correct him. He made ...
Lord Whitty | 726 c755-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise to noble Lords that, because the House has made such good progress today, I wa...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c753 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may chip in as a mere layman, and a former MP for a constituency that looked as ...
Lord Clark of Windermere | 726 c753-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I intervene briefly in opposition to the three previous speakers and in support of my nobl...
Lord Henley | 726 c757-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, allow me to intervene at this stage. I add to the remarks of the noble Baroness, Lady Quin...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 726 c756 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had not intended to speak in this part of the debate, and I apologise to the House that ...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 726 c757 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to oppose the amendment. The noble Baroness, Lady Quin, says that her amendment has...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 726 c744 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend Lord Hunt and also the noble Lord, Lord Newton, for their support. I accept ...
Baroness Quin | 726 c744 (Link to this contribution) 5: Schedule 1, page 15, leave out lines 5 to 9
Lord Henley | 726 c747-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 8, 11, 14 and 15. Amendments 6, 8, 11 and 15 will remove ...
Baroness Quin | 726 c748 (Link to this contribution) 7: Schedule 1, page 15, line 11, leave out ““Agricultural Wages Board for England and Wales.””
Baroness Quin | 726 c748-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 7 stands in my name and in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, and my nob...
Baroness Quin | 726 c744-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 5 relates to the advisory committees on pesticides and hazardous substances. The...
Lord Henley | 726 c745-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that I can give a reasonable assurance to the noble Baroness when I set out our pol...
Baroness Quin | 726 c747 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for replying to this amendment and giving us more informatio...
Lord Henley | 726 c747 (Link to this contribution) 6: Schedule 1, page 15, line 10, at end insert ““for areas in England””
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c740 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments represents a set of minor and technical changes to the Bill. The ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 726 c742-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very glad to support my noble friend in her endeavours in this regard. As the noble L...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c743 (Link to this contribution) I support that. The noble Baroness and I have not conspired on, but discussed, various matters of in...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 726 c741 (Link to this contribution) 4: Clause 1, page 1, line 13, at end insert— ““( ) In considering whether to exercise the powers und...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 726 c742 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to degroup Amendment 62 from this group. That will enable us to debate that amendme...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c740-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is fortunate that I have an opportunity to respond to my noble friend so quickly. He ha...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c740 (Link to this contribution) 3: Clause 1, page 1, line 6, at end insert ““or to another public body whether or not listed in this...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c740 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, having described myself towards the end of the previous set of proceedings on this as defe...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c743-4 (Link to this contribution) I would never wish to do other than respond constructively to an amendment from the noble Baroness. ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c781 (Link to this contribution) 11: Schedule 1, page 15, line 27, at end insert ““other than the one established pursuant to subsect...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 726 c773-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had a useful debate that, with the exception of the last speaker—the Minister—achi...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 726 c829 (Link to this contribution) This is a listening Government and they are prepared to listen. They will listen to advice from ever...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 726 c835-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for moving the amendment and for allowing us to debate fo...
Lord Low of Dalston | 726 c774 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 21. In Committee I pointed out the valuable function that ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 726 c815-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 18. Like my noble friend Lord Kennedy, I find it quite extraord...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 726 c741 (Link to this contribution) Unless the opposition Front Bench wishes to come in, I will give an immediate demonstration of my do...
Subjects
Complaints Access Disability Consumers Agriculture Assets Closures Finance Environment protection Hazardous substances Ministerial powers Protection Pay Property transfer Minimum wage Public bodies Property Mergers Pesticides Non-departmental public bodies Scotland Tribunals Training Transport Regulation Safety Wales Valuation Rural areas Science Security guards Agricultural Wages Board Citizens Advice Advisory Committee on Pesticides Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee Plant Varieties and Seeds Tribunal Security Industry Authority Valuation Tribunal Service Citizens' advice bureaux Commission for Rural Communities East Midlands Development Agency Citizens Advice Scotland Consumer Focus Local enterprise partnerships Advisory Committee on Hazardous Substances Advisory Committee on Pesticides for Northern Ireland
Legislation
Public Bodies Bill (HL) 2010-12
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