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Road Safety Bill [HL]

Secondary information

Type

Parliamentary proceeding

Reference

676 c111-85 

Session

2005-06

Department

Department for Transport

Legislative stage

Report stage

Procedure

Government defeats

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Related items

Road Safety Bill (HL). As amended in Committee (HL).
Wednesday, 26 October 2005
Bills
House of Lords

Limousines: Licensing
Thursday, 2 February 2006
Written questions
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Hanningfield | 676 c116-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I normally thank the Minister for his answer but today, as he said himself, he has not giv...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c116 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness may have noticed that we have a few minor problems with the Identity Ca...

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Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 676 c116 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister sits down, can he tell me why the Government have no plans to designat...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c120-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I fear that the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw, is resting rather more on the meeting which my ...

Lord Bradshaw | 676 c119-20 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 40:"After Clause 33, insert the following new clause—"    ““YOUNG DRIVERS’ SCH...

Lord Hanningfield | 676 c119 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 39:"Leave out Clause 30." The noble Lord said: My Lords, in view of the result ...

Lord Bradshaw | 676 c122 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will accept the Minister’s assurance that he will do his best to ensure that this issue ...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c121-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that would be an odd procedure, and I cannot give the noble Lord that assurance in categor...

Lord Bradshaw | 676 c121 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. He has indicated to the House that we are seeking to ...

Lord Hogg of Cumbernauld | 676 c123 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may make a brief intervention. I declare an interest as an adviser to the Confed...

Lord Bradshaw | 676 c122-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 43:"After Clause 38, insert the following new clause—" ““LIMOUSINES (1)   The ...

Earl Attlee | 676 c123-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw. Personally, I would not be seen dead in one of th...

Earl of Mar and Kellie | 676 c123 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there are two issues, among others, that interest me. The first is whether these vehicles ...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c124 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords who have spoken on this issue, and I say this with my customa...

Lord Bridges | 676 c124 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the points raised by the noble Earl are very real. We should be aware, as I am sure we all...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c125-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise; I meant ““eight passengers”” or more. I am grateful to the noble Countess for...

Countess of Mar | 676 c124 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister has twice said, ““For vehicles adapted to carry eight vehicles to more””. He ...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c126 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is certainly an interesting point, although they are not the only vehicles on the roa...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 676 c126 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, will the Minister explain how you will be able to tell whether there are nine or more peop...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c113-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the two noble Lords who have contributed to the debate, although the argu...

Lord Bradshaw | 676 c113 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree almost entirely with what the noble Lord, Lord Hanningfield, said. We believe that...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c115 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we still have some way to go with this Bill but the principle behind it is straightforward...

Earl of Onslow | 676 c114-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord says ““at this stage””. How long have the Government had to work out how mu...

Lord Hanningfield | 676 c111-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 38:"Leave out Clause 29." The noble Lord said: My Lords, I have read very caref...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c111 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that the Bill be now further considered on Report. Moved accordingly, and, ...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c116 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can satisfy the noble Baroness on that point. She will recognise that the modern driving...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 676 c115 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are debating Clause 29. The heading to the clause is:"““Compulsory surrender of old-for...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c116 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord makes an important point. That is what we are looking at.

Lord Skelmersdale | 676 c116 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister sits down, I am sure he is aware that a modern photographic driving li...

Baroness Crawley | 676 c138 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for setting out his amendment in that excellent way. He m...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 676 c138 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to my noble friend for that thoughtful and very coherent response. I wo...

Lord Bradshaw | 676 c136 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must say that I found the Minister’s answers to be among the most unsatisfactory that we...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 676 c136-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 48:"After Clause 40, insert the following new clause—" ““SPECIAL FACILITIES FO...

Lord Hanningfield | 676 c141 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I echo the words of the noble Lords, Lord Bradshaw and Lord Berkeley. We on these Benches ...

Lord Bradshaw | 676 c138-40 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 50:"After Clause 40, insert the following new clause—" ““DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL...

Lord Berkeley | 676 c140-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is added to the amendment. I support it, as I have at previous stages. I am gratef...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c136 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am ever grateful for the insights into British law that the noble Viscount presents. The...

Viscount Simon | 676 c136 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before my noble friend sits down once more, is he aware that under legislation, which migh...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c135-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hear what the noble Earl says. Vehicles which are parked overnight for a considerable pe...

Baroness Crawley | 676 c131-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are not accepting the amendment; we are resisting it, and therefore it is somewhat acad...

Earl Attlee | 676 c131 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness referred to the importance of giving discretion to local authorities, b...

Viscount Simon | 676 c131 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before my noble friend sits down, the description of ““motorcycle”” can include motorcycle...

Baroness Crawley | 676 c130-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for setting out her case so clearly once again. I am a...

Lord Swinfen | 676 c131 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is it not extremely confusing for motorists, particularly motorcyclists in this case, that...

Lord Hanningfield | 676 c129 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. I agree that we have to provide and exchange informat...

Baroness Hanham | 676 c129-30 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 46:"After Clause 39, insert the following new clause—" ““MOTORCYCLES IN BUS LA...

Lord Hanningfield | 676 c127-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 44:"Page 50, line 1, leave out from ““territory”” to end of line 4 and insert ““...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c128-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I certainly apologise for the fact that the noble Lord did not receive the letter that was...

Lord Bradshaw | 676 c126-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that fairly lengthy explanation of the current situation and his ...

Earl Attlee | 676 c135 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister sits down—

Baroness Hanham | 676 c135 (Link to this contribution) Stands up!

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c135 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall reply to the noble Baroness and then the noble Earl can ask me his question before...

Earl Attlee | 676 c135 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister sits down, I am grateful for the tone of his response to my question. ...

Baroness Hanham | 676 c133 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my amendment—Amendment No. 47—is in this group. It more or less replicates what the noble ...

Earl Attlee | 676 c133-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my amendment is Amendment No. 49. I remind the House of my interest as president of the HT...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c134-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. As has been recognised, t...

Baroness Hanham | 676 c135 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister sits down, perhaps I may ask two questions, which I do not think have ...

Lord Bradshaw | 676 c132-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 46A:"Page 50, line 20, at end insert—" ““(aa)   in subsection (2), after parag...

Baroness Hanham | 676 c132 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for her reply. I am slightly disappointed because I thought that in C...

Viscount Simon | 676 c185 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend for her reply. I will study what she says and I strongly suspect t...

Baroness Crawley | 676 c184-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend and to the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw, for moving this ame...

Lord Bradshaw | 676 c183-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise briefly to support what the noble Viscount, Lord Simon, has said and I declare my i...

Viscount Simon | 676 c182-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 70A:"After Clause 44, insert the following new clause—" ““ROAD TRAFFIC OFFENCE...

Earl Attlee | 676 c182 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister can be satisfied on his last point, because I have already said that I will n...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c181-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl for giving me the opportunity to look into the future and ...

Earl of Dundee | 676 c178-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his remarks. The central point at the back of what we are discuss...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c176-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl for moving the amendment, and the offer of a meeting from ...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 676 c176 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, of course I must support this amendment in so far as I heard mention of the words ““pilot ...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c185 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 72:"Page 114, line 4, leave out ““entry relating to section 98A(7)”” and insert ...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c185 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 73 to 74:"Page 52, line 38, at end insert—" ““(3A)   Section 2B of the Road ...

Lord Bradshaw | 676 c150-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 51 to 56:"After Clause 40, insert the following new clause—" ““INCREASE OF P...

Lord Bradshaw | 676 c148 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. He rather hit the nail on the head right at the end w...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c145-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am enormously grateful to my noble friend for having done the arithmetic before I have m...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 676 c144-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I also rise to support these amendments, which have a remarkable degree of support in ever...

Earl Attlee | 676 c144 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to support these amendments, apart from Amendment No. 52 which I have a little bit ...

Lord Snape | 676 c142-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think I have an interest to declare in this matter but I shall declare one anyway...

Lord Tyler | 676 c142 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in a previous disposition in the other place, I had to witness the results of several very...

Viscount Tenby | 676 c141-2 (Link to this contribution) I, too, support this group of amendments and again express my apologies for not having done so durin...

Lord Bradshaw | 676 c157-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 58A:"After Clause 42, insert the following new clause—" ““REGULATIONS CONTROLL...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c156 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, rollerblades are not powered except by humans and, secondly, they do not have the s...

Lord Bradshaw | 676 c159 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for her reply. A similar reply was given at a previous stage. I do no...

Lord Brougham and Vaux | 676 c159 (Link to this contribution) The Question is that Amendment No. 58A shall be agreed to. As many as are of that opinion will say, ...

Lord Hanningfield | 676 c158 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we support the amendment, but as time is moving on and as we have concluded much of our im...

Baroness Crawley | 676 c158-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lords for their contributions. The clause is designed to ensure that bre...

Lord Monson | 676 c162 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry to have missed the opening remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Swinfen; it was enti...

Lord Swinfen | 676 c159-61 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 59:"After Clause 43, insert the following new clause—" ““CAUSING OR PERMITTING...

Earl of Listowel | 676 c161-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have put my name to this amendment. I strongly support what the noble Lord, Lord Swinfen...

Earl Attlee | 676 c152-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 57:"After Clause 41, insert the following new clause—" ““HIGHWAYS ACT 1980: IN...

Lord Hanningfield | 676 c153 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, for one, support my noble friend on this issue. One cannot escape from legislation wher...

Lord Berkeley | 676 c153-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment in principle. I will not repeat what I said in Committee, but my c...

Lord Rogan | 676 c154 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I also support the amendment. We are delighted that London has been granted the Olympics, ...

Earl of Liverpool | 676 c154 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend’s amendment, as I did in Committee. I drew some comfort from the...

Viscount Simon | 676 c154 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, both amendments include the phrase,"““two driven wheels in a transverse line””." The Road...

Lord Swinfen | 676 c154 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the human transporter is just one example of the very rapid movement forwards in technolog...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c154-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. The Segway is a motor veh...

Lord Swinfen | 676 c156 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister sits down, he said that the human transporter was a vehicle and theref...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c156 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we think that it would probably need primary legislation because it raises such significan...

Lord Monson | 676 c156 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister sits down, does he not agree that rollerbladers are allowed on the pub...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c169-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for moving his amendment. We certainly agree with his mai...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 676 c170 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to my noble friend for his considered reply to this very short debate. ...

Earl of Dundee | 676 c175-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 65:"After Clause 44, insert the following new clause—" ““GRADUATED LEARNING (1...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 676 c175 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, can the Minister explain what effect the omission has had? If this provision has not been ...

Baroness Crawley | 676 c175 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that it has had a minimal effect, but I shall be happy to write to the noble Barone...

Earl Attlee | 676 c174 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am extremely grateful for that response from the Minister. He has acknowledged that ther...

Baroness Crawley | 676 c175 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 64:"Page 52, line 14, at end insert—" ““(6)   In Schedule 1 to that Act (offen...

Earl of Listowel | 676 c162 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is my noble friend aware that the estimate for the number of children going to hospital ea...

Lord Monson | 676 c162-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, of course it is helpful, but we do not know how many of those accidents involve the head, ...

Countess of Mar | 676 c163 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I too missed the speech of the noble Lord, Lord Swinfen, in the Chamber, but I heard it up...

Lord Swinfen | 676 c166-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister’s last remarks are very interesting, bearing in mind adherence to the law on ...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 676 c167-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 61:"After Clause 43, insert the following new clause—" ““HACKNEY CARRIAGES: SU...

Earl of Erroll | 676 c164 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, while I think the amendment is extremely well meaning and that it is a very good idea for ...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c164-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have contributed to the debate. Of course I share the...

Earl of Listowel | 676 c165-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister sits down, is he aware of research from Australia undertaken by McDerm...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c166 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if I was not aware of it before, I am now. However, the noble Earl will recognise that if ...

Lord Hanningfield | 676 c120 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw. I have heard the Minister say, and we all agre...

Earl Attlee | 676 c179-81 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 66:"After Clause 44, insert the following new clause—" ““REGULATIONS (1)   The...

Earl Attlee | 676 c156-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Monson, raised the subject of rollerblades. The difference between a ...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 676 c142 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, apologise for not being able to be in attendance at the Committee stage. I add my ...

Earl Attlee | 676 c170-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 62:"After Clause 43, insert the following new clause—" ““REMOVAL OF VEHICLES B...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 676 c173-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have been remiss in not arranging that meeting, although the noble Earl will recognise t...

Baroness Thomas of Walliswood | 676 c163-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not competent to take a close view on the validity of the amendment as it is written ...

Viscount Simon | 676 c169 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend has introduced his amendment exceedingly well. I have only one further thi...

Subjects

Children Disclosure of information Applications Costs Closures Accidents Countryside Bureaucracy Bus lanes Cars Cycling Fraud Identity cards Injuries Level crossings Large goods vehicles International cooperation Helmets Electric vehicles Police Passengers Motorcycles Proof of identity Motorway service areas Photography Taxis Registration Young people Safety Roads Road traffic offences Theft Driving licences Picnic sites

Legislation

Road Safety Bill (HL) 2005-06

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