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Debate on bill on Friday, 10 March 2006, in the House of Commons.

Climate Change and Sustainable Energy Bill

Climate Change and Sustainable Energy Bill. Report stage. New clauses 1 and 3 debated and withdrawn. New clauses 4, 5 and 6 debated and added to the Bill. Debate adjourned, to be resumed 17 March.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
443 c1047-1121 
Session
2005-06
Department
Department of Trade and Industry
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Private members' bills proceedings
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Yvette Cooper | 443 c1096-7 (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, I shall reply to the debate. I shall begin by responding to the points ...
Speaker | 443 c1098 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Lady for raising this issue. There have been occasions when defective door mechanis...
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Christopher Chope | 443 c1099 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister agree that nitrous oxide is a by-product of catalytic converters? If it is a by-pr...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1099 (Link to this contribution) That goes beyond our discussions today. The point of my remarks is to say that although the hon. Gen...
James Duddridge | 443 c1060 (Link to this contribution) I disagree with my right hon. Friend in relation to climate change and the priority that it is given...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1061 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that putting parish and community councils on a par with larger coun...
Eric Forth | 443 c1061-2 (Link to this contribution) I agree that there is that risk. Before we sign up to new clause 4(6)(g) and (h), we need to hear mu...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1062 (Link to this contribution) Has my right hon. Friend noticed that new clause 1, which my hon. Friend the Member for Bexhill and ...
Eric Forth | 443 c1062 (Link to this contribution) I do not know. I can say that because it is not my new clause and I do not have to explain it. Indee...
Speaker | 443 c1058 (Link to this contribution) Order. New clause 4 is quite lengthy. I am sure that the right hon. Gentleman could find more releva...
Philip Hollobone | 443 c1056-7 (Link to this contribution) I mentioned earlier potential confusion in the planning system. As my right hon. Friend knows, distr...
Eric Forth | 443 c1055-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Bexhill and Battle (Gregory Barker) inadvertently gave the game away i...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1055 (Link to this contribution) That issue is being looked at, and my hon. Friend the Minister for Housing and Planning has of cours...
Eric Forth | 443 c1057 (Link to this contribution) No. If authorities are so lacking in diligence not to do so, they must answer to their voters. I am ...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1054 (Link to this contribution) We discussed in Committee whether we should impose more mandatory requirements on local authorities....
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1054 (Link to this contribution) There is a great deal on our agenda, including our renewables strategy. As I am sure the hon. Gentle...
James Duddridge | 443 c1054 (Link to this contribution) The Minister said that energy-efficient light bulbs were important, but he also said that they were ...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1053-4 (Link to this contribution) That is not on our agenda, but I have heard the argument before and it will doubtless form part of a...
Nigel Evans | 443 c1053 (Link to this contribution) Energy-saving light bulbs are more expensive than more energy-consuming bulbs, and poorer people may...
Robert Smith | 443 c1052-3 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is making a strong case on the importance of the issue. Has not this winter, with its v...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1052 (Link to this contribution) I am satisfied with our development of measures such as the warm front programme, which has helped—I...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1051 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps we could look at that. Given the powers that are there already, and given the wish expressed...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1051-2 (Link to this contribution) That would be dealt with by the overall planning system. My hon. Friend the Minister for Housing and...
Philip Hollobone | 443 c1051 (Link to this contribution) On the question of planning powers, thousands of new houses are about to be built in Kettering. Were...
Eric Forth | 443 c1050 (Link to this contribution) If the Minister is so happy about what is already being done by some local authorities, why do we ne...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1050 (Link to this contribution) That is a good question. As I said in Committee, we are trying to get the balance right—[Interruptio...
Peter Ainsworth | 443 c1050 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to the House, because I shall have to leave shortly to attend a memorial service. I tha...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1050-1 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his support for my hon. Friend’s Bill. The different parties have wor...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1049 (Link to this contribution) What will the new clause enable local authorities to do that they cannot already do?
Speaker | 443 c1047-8 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Amendment (a) to new clause 1, in line 5, ...
Lord Barker of Battle | 443 c1047 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Eric Forth | 443 c1064 (Link to this contribution) Of course there are, as there are for people with very young children. Of course there are groups in...
Brooks Newmark | 443 c1064 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is digressing. We are talking about climate change. Fuel poverty relates to cli...
Speaker | 443 c1064 (Link to this contribution) Order. It is for the Chair to determine what is relevant. The right hon. Gentleman has been going ra...
Nick Hurd | 443 c1066 (Link to this contribution) As usual, my right hon. Friend is playing a robust role in testing the value added of proposed legis...
Eric Forth | 443 c1066-7 (Link to this contribution) It might be—I do not know, nor do I think that it is as self-evident as my hon. Friend suggests, bec...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1067-8 (Link to this contribution) To follow what my right hon. Friend the Member for Bromley and Chislehurst (Mr. Forth) has just said...
Eric Forth | 443 c1065 (Link to this contribution) Again, we will come to that later—but to touch briefly on it now, it has not yet been demonstrated t...
Eric Forth | 443 c1065 (Link to this contribution) Who supplies the windmills is a question that we will come to later. I would digress if I followed t...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1069 (Link to this contribution) I am addressing my remarks to new clause 4 and amendment (a), tabled by my right hon. Friend the Mem...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1068 (Link to this contribution) I believe in the market mechanism. One of the ironies about the figures on the proportion of househo...
Brooks Newmark | 443 c1068 (Link to this contribution) I should like to draw my hon. Friend’s attention to the link between council tax and energy efficien...
Nick Hurd | 443 c1071 (Link to this contribution) I have listened to my hon. Friend’s argument about local councils and parish councils very carefully...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1070 (Link to this contribution) I am not discussing the Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill, Madam Deputy Speaker, and I do not i...
Nick Hurd | 443 c1072 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an excellent point about the parameters of the energy measures report containin...
Eric Forth | 443 c1088 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the little friendly exchanges that we have on Fridays illustrate the ...
Eric Forth | 443 c1087 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is probably right in a technical mathematical sense. However, I am more worried about...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1088 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that clarification. I fully accept that I was under a misapprehension. I wrongly e...
Eric Forth | 443 c1085 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps we can sit down together in the next few days to draft further amendments, because I am conf...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1085-6 (Link to this contribution) The concept of a millennium has been mentioned, and we have used up a proportion of one this morning...
Eric Forth | 443 c1084-5 (Link to this contribution) Such matters must be weighed up. We are discussing whether an annual approach is the most efficaciou...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1084 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that ““built to last”” is an important principle, and that for somet...
Mark Lazarowicz | 443 c1083 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman and I might have been of the same mind if the hon. Member for Christchurch ...
Lord Barker of Battle | 443 c1092 (Link to this contribution) When this issue arose in Committee, it usefully exposed a flaw in the Bill which we thrashed out at ...
Lord Stunell | 443 c1092-3 (Link to this contribution) I welcome new clause 5. There is clear evidence from the Building Research Establishment that most n...
Lord Whitehead | 443 c1092 (Link to this contribution) : I welcome the new clauses. One of the Bill’s aims is to ensure that account is taken of ways in wh...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1093-5 (Link to this contribution) That is a bit of a non sequitur, is it not? As a result of such privatisation, house builders are en...
Speaker | 443 c1088 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman is supposed to be winding up the debate on new clause 3. Perhaps he would ...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1088 (Link to this contribution) My starting point was believing that the Bill was about climate change. As I understood it, the way ...
Yvette Cooper | 443 c1090 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Christopher Chope | 443 c1088 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely, Madam Deputy Speaker. It has become clear that the new clause has a fault line. It refer...
Eric Forth | 443 c1091 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister not worried that this could cause confusion? If we are to have two different regimes...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1077 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Speaker | 443 c1075 (Link to this contribution) Order. I hope that we will now get back to the amendments and new clauses under debate.
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1075-6 (Link to this contribution) I will not say any more about fuel poverty, because I hope that I covered that in my earlier remarks...
James Duddridge | 443 c1074-5 (Link to this contribution) : I will try to make my comments brief. I had hoped to speak in favour of the amendments, but, havin...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1074 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. I am sure that he is as enthusiastic a supporter of the pr...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1072-4 (Link to this contribution) It has been a perennial theme that we should trust the people and the institutions to do what is bes...
Eric Forth | 443 c1072 (Link to this contribution) May I suggest another couple of approaches? Any local authority that believes that it has a very goo...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1082 (Link to this contribution) I thought that the hon. Gentleman was saying that my new clause was innocuous. If so, and given the ...
Mark Lazarowicz | 443 c1081-2 (Link to this contribution) May I declare the support that I have received from the sustainable energy partnership and its membe...
Mark Lazarowicz | 443 c1082 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Member for Bexhill and Battle said, we should not burden the legislative body with provi...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1080 (Link to this contribution) I think that the person who wrote the article on nuclear energy in The Times today would agree that ...
James Duddridge | 443 c1081 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps my hon. Friend did not hear the Minister say from a sedentary position that he would be deli...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1081 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend. Had such information been readily accessible it would have been useful ...
Speaker | 443 c1080 (Link to this contribution) Order. I have not had the opportunity to read the article, but the new clause is about the need for ...
Eric Forth | 443 c1079 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether my hon. Friend is aware of this, but in my conversations with parliamentary co...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1077-8 (Link to this contribution) I tabled new clause 3 because if we are to have a constructive debate about climate change and susta...
Eric Forth | 443 c1079 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way to me?
Speaker | 443 c1078 (Link to this contribution) Order. New clause 3 refers to the duty of the Secretary of State to lay a report before Parliament, ...
Speaker | 443 c1105 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Amendment No. 8, in page 2, line 21, leave...
Eric Forth | 443 c1105-6 (Link to this contribution) I want to promote a debate about whether it is more sensible for us to adopt a national approach or ...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1106 (Link to this contribution) Is my right hon. Friend familiar with the concept of microclimates? Even within his own constituency...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1107 (Link to this contribution) How does my right hon. Friend envisage the calculations being made to form the basis for the regiona...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1099-102 (Link to this contribution) I wish to speak briefly to amendment No. 29. As the Minister said, it would remove nitrous oxide fro...
Eric Forth | 443 c1102-3 (Link to this contribution) My point of reference for debates on these matters is the excellent second report of the House of Lo...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1103 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend has referred to methane: UK methane emissions have dropped by 50 per cent. sinc...
Lord Robathan | 443 c1103-4 (Link to this contribution) On the particular, has my right hon. Friend seen the amusing photograph of the Secretary of State fo...
Eric Forth | 443 c1104 (Link to this contribution) That point relates to the remarks by my hon. Friend the Member for Christchurch about catalytic conv...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1104 (Link to this contribution) Rather than generalising about Kyoto, does the hon. Gentleman believe that we should outlaw catalyti...
Mark Lazarowicz | 443 c1104 (Link to this contribution) Of course not. The hon. Gentleman should tackle the issue more constructively. I appeal to him not t...
Lord Barker of Battle | 443 c1104-5 (Link to this contribution) As one who gave up chemistry at 14 and Latin even earlier, I have struggled at times to keep up with...
Eric Forth | 443 c1108-9 (Link to this contribution) That is a possibility; on the other hand, it might have prolonged consideration in Committee. Rather...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1109 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend accept that if he and, say, I had been serving on that Committee, it is mo...
Eric Forth | 443 c1109-10 (Link to this contribution) Yes, but the hon. Member for Edinburgh, North and Leith (Mark Lazarowicz) is in a very fortunate pos...
Eric Forth | 443 c1107-8 (Link to this contribution) That would certainly be an approach, but in the light of the local authority provisions in new claus...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1108 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend envisage competition between the different regions over targets, over whic...
Eric Forth | 443 c1108 (Link to this contribution) That is always a possibility, but my initial reaction to my hon. Friend’s suggestion is that I am un...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1110 (Link to this contribution) Given, for example, the recent national target to reduce poverty among children, the Government miss...
Eric Forth | 443 c1096 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend. That raises the issue of why this matter was not aired in Committee. Ho...
Linda Gilroy | 443 c1098 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. May I raise the issue of the door that blocked my way as I ...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1099 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 35, in page 2, line 10, leave out subsection (2).
Speaker | 443 c1099 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 29, in page 2, line 13, lea...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1099 (Link to this contribution) Amendments Nos. 35 and 50 will move the definition of greenhouse gases to clause 23, alongside other...
Eric Forth | 443 c1059-60 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend. I have not mentioned that. I will come on to potential conflicts un...
Eric Forth | 443 c1060-1 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that intervention, but I support President Bush and his Administ...
James Duddridge | 443 c1062 (Link to this contribution) I see no mention of unitary authorities in subsection (6), and I am conscious that 60,000 of my 72,0...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1059 (Link to this contribution) Before my right hon. Friend moves on, will he respond to my concern that the Secretary of State will...
Eric Forth | 443 c1058-9 (Link to this contribution) I have plenty of ammunition, Madam Deputy Speaker. I am exploring some of the possibilities that I t...
Eric Forth | 443 c1057 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who anticipates what I will have to say later about potential confl...
Eric Forth | 443 c1057-8 (Link to this contribution) We will come on to parish councils shortly. We will want to examine what their role is supposed to b...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1057 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend share my concern that the intervention of my hon. Friend the Member for Be...
Lord Barker of Battle | 443 c1057 (Link to this contribution) We know that my right hon. Friend’s local authority does not support him in his view. We know also t...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1054 (Link to this contribution) On the terrible day of judgment, there will be a weighing of speeches to determine whose had merit a...
Lord Wills | 443 c1054 (Link to this contribution) I do not wish to make my hon. Friend remain on his feet a moment longer than necessary, but new clau...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1054 (Link to this contribution) May I finish my sentence first? It is quite interesting. It is a sentence that I think has at least ...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1054 (Link to this contribution) I was about to do so permanently by ending my speech, but I am happy to let the hon. Gentleman inter...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1053 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. I am not complacent—none of us is complacent—but I am encouraged to note that more housi...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1053 (Link to this contribution) There are two major ways of tackling the problem. One involves income-maintenance measures such as p...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1052 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman knows that it is a real issue, so I will give way to him.
Christopher Chope | 443 c1051 (Link to this contribution) The Greater London authority is specifically not included in the new clause.
Christopher Chope | 443 c1051 (Link to this contribution) Why does the Minister’s new clause let the Mayor of London off the hook by not including him, even t...
Lord Barker of Battle | 443 c1049 (Link to this contribution) The most important thing is to prioritise climate change. We know from a poll conducted by the Energ...
Lord Barker of Battle | 443 c1048-9 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to say that we will not press the new clause. I am delighted that, following our lengthy ...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1049-50 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Bexhill and Battle (Gregory Barker) referred to the provisions as timid. I know ...
Greg Clark | 443 c1064 (Link to this contribution) I have some sympathy with the point my right hon. Friend is making, but he rather overplays his hand...
Eric Forth | 443 c1065 (Link to this contribution) I am addressing my amendment, which seeks to delete the term ““fuel poverty”” from the Bill, Madam D...
Brooks Newmark | 443 c1065 (Link to this contribution) The important thing is that if we can have, for example, windmills on people’s roofs or insulation, ...
Brooks Newmark | 443 c1063 (Link to this contribution) I remain in awe of my right hon. Friend’s forensic analysis, but I would like to help to connect the...
Eric Forth | 443 c1063-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend—I think—but I shall come to that subject later, because I shall talk...
Eric Forth | 443 c1066 (Link to this contribution) Only partly. What about food poverty or clothing poverty? What if people find that they have to make...
Eric Forth | 443 c1066 (Link to this contribution) They might be—I concede that—but it is relevant to consider by how much. I return to my point about ...
Greg Clark | 443 c1066 (Link to this contribution) I think that my right hon. Friend has made progress by accepting that, although he may not like the ...
Greg Clark | 443 c1065 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend accept that those proportions would be very different for some of the grou...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1065 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend accept that one of the ironies of the new clause is that it could result i...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1069-70 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend, but nothing under present legislation stops Braintree council having re...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1068 (Link to this contribution) I suppose that the subsection does so in sense—my hon. Friend is right—but the trouble is that the t...
Greg Clark | 443 c1068-9 (Link to this contribution) Does that not, perhaps inadvertently, precisely meet the requirement? It might protect people from f...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1068 (Link to this contribution) That is an exemplary form of what we call localism. Each council is left to make its own decision on...
Greg Clark | 443 c1068 (Link to this contribution) Does not the Bill meet precisely the objection that the Minister raises? Clause 1(2) requires:"““the...
Eric Forth | 443 c1068 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is no doubt aware that the long-term secular trend of fuel prices both in real and re...
Speaker | 443 c1070 (Link to this contribution) Order. I have just reminded the hon. Gentleman that we are not discussing the Legislative and Regula...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1070 (Link to this contribution) I agree, Madam Deputy Speaker. I was just explaining the Bill’s context, and part 2 of the Legislati...
Speaker | 443 c1070 (Link to this contribution) Order. However much any hon. Member might be pleased or displeased about that, it is not a matter th...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1070-1 (Link to this contribution) I was certainly intending to do so, but I shall do it immediately, so that we have some continuity i...
Eric Forth | 443 c1070 (Link to this contribution) I hope that my hon. Friend—with his vast experience of local government, but more particularly, in t...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1072 (Link to this contribution) Again, I understand my hon. Friend’s point. I will not call him naive because he comes from a very d...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1071-2 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is on to a very good point. The Government have underperformed compared with what the...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1087 (Link to this contribution) I would concede that, if the Minister had not already said that most of material that I have request...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1087-8 (Link to this contribution) I know that the hon. Gentleman is a master of data, because that is what the new clause is about. Ho...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1086 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has referred to statistics on energy produced, but the new clause deals with energy con...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1086 (Link to this contribution) No; not yet. New clause 3 would give the Secretary of State a duty to report whether energy consume...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1086 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman studies the data again, he can satisfy himself—for example, we know that rough...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1085 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to my right hon. Friend for not having engaged him in the drafting process, because new ...
Eric Forth | 443 c1085 (Link to this contribution) One would think so, but just saying it does not make it so. It may be possible to identify the total...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1085 (Link to this contribution) If the Government have set a target of 10 per cent. of electricity from microgeneration, that sugges...
Eric Forth | 443 c1083-4 (Link to this contribution) That sounds like a very attractive proposition. Perhaps we could consider it through further amendme...
Eric Forth | 443 c1082-3 (Link to this contribution) I am rather torn. On the one hand, much of the information required under new clause 3 is already av...
Michael Fabricant | 443 c1091 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister aware of my concern that building regulations have driven a lot of good electrical e...
Yvette Cooper | 443 c1091-2 (Link to this contribution) I cannot see why the new clauses would affect such traders in any way. They are simply about giving ...
Lord Stunell | 443 c1093 (Link to this contribution) That is not my opinion; it is the result of a survey carried out by the Building Research Establishm...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1093 (Link to this contribution) It is a very long time since I was a Minister in the equivalent of the Minister’s Department, but I ...
Eric Forth | 443 c1095-6 (Link to this contribution) On this occasion, I happily defer to the wisdom and experience of my hon. Friend the Member for Chri...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1096 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that, if one looks at subsection 4, one sees that the issue relates ...
Speaker | 443 c1088 (Link to this contribution) Order. The new clause deals with the need for an annual report to Parliament. Perhaps the hon. Gentl...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1088 (Link to this contribution) I will. I was simply following on from my helpful exchange with the Minister because I was told that...
Yvette Cooper | 443 c1091 (Link to this contribution) Clearly, it would be better to be able to extend the time limits for all the building regulations at...
Yvette Cooper | 443 c1091 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Edinburgh, North and Leith (Mark Lazarowicz) on all the...
Speaker | 443 c1090 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Government new clause 6—Building regulati...
Speaker | 443 c1077 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss amendment No. 28, in clause 2, page 2, line 9, at end ins...
Speaker | 443 c1076 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I ask the hon. Gentleman to face the Chair while he makes his remarks?
Lord Barker of Battle | 443 c1076 (Link to this contribution) : I am delighted to be called to respond to the debate, which I do not intend to delay. A good point...
Lord Barker of Battle | 443 c1076 (Link to this contribution) I beg your pardon, Madam Deputy Speaker. The existing powers were not being used because of a perce...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1075 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Southampton, Test (Dr. Whitehead) first, not becaus...
Lord Whitehead | 443 c1075 (Link to this contribution) I thought it might be worth reminding my hon. Friend of Piltdown man, who I think was discovered in ...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1075 (Link to this contribution) The DNA tests are still in the laboratories, but I think that Bromley man is genetically related to ...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1075 (Link to this contribution) May I preface my remarks by saying that, at times, I have found that I am listening to what almost a...
Eric Forth | 443 c1074 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that my hon. Friend said that. Presumably the obvious answer is that it is up to local vot...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1072 (Link to this contribution) I agree absolutely. That is what responsible local authorities will do. I do not agree with the Grea...
James Duddridge | 443 c1080 (Link to this contribution) In the unlikely event that the excellent new clause is not accepted, will my hon. Friend press the M...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1080-1 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point, but I am not sure—perhaps the Minister will tell us—whether...
Lord Barker of Battle | 443 c1081 (Link to this contribution) As a relatively new boy I hesitate to give advice to a former Minister and senior colleague, but I a...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1081 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend on framing the expression ““Touché”” in such polite terms. He is makin...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1079-80 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that, Madam Deputy Speaker. In the annual report, which I hope the Government acc...
Eric Forth | 443 c1078 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend think that one of the reasons why renewables have failed to make the breakthro...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1078-9 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for making that point. I make a plea to the Government ...
Eric Forth | 443 c1116 (Link to this contribution) Before my hon. Friend embarks on this part of his analysis, may I point out that I am fairly certain...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1116 (Link to this contribution) I hope that our party has not been reorganised on a regional basis. My understanding is that althoug...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1115-6 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to amendments Nos. 30 and 31, which I tabled, and express my disappointment that the M...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1114-5 (Link to this contribution) Clause 3 was the subject of much debate in Committee. When developing our views on the need for micr...
Lord Barker of Battle | 443 c1114 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, but no one can doubt the new direction that we are charting in putting issues such as climat...
Lord Barker of Battle | 443 c1114 (Link to this contribution) The Bill is sufficient as it stands. Amending it at this stage would not be helpful to the central p...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1114 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend accept that my amendments Nos. 30 and 31, which would remove subsections (7) and...
Lord Barker of Battle | 443 c1114 (Link to this contribution) Microgeneration is at the heart of the Bill. It is an essential element of a decentralised energy po...
Eric Forth | 443 c1113 (Link to this contribution) Yes, it is. It reflects the soft approach that the Bill takes. On reflection, I would have preferred...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1113 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend share my concern that subsection (8) does not include any requirement for ...
Eric Forth | 443 c1118-9 (Link to this contribution) I was of course disappointed, although not surprised, by the Minister’s reaction, which illustrates ...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1119 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend envisage the Government introducing the regional breakdown of a national t...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1117 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for clarifying that. During his clarification, he referred to ...
Eric Forth | 443 c1117 (Link to this contribution) I confirm that I have in mind East Anglia, for example, or the south-west: in other words, large geo...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1118 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my constituents will forgive my right hon. Friend for having referred inadvertently t...
Eric Forth | 443 c1118 (Link to this contribution) In that case, may I recant and move an amendment to what I said, to delete ““the south-west”” and in...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1116 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that is right, Mr. Deputy Speaker. On the Government’s regional agenda, my right hon. Frie...
Speaker | 443 c1116 (Link to this contribution) Order. Fascinating though this subject may be to detached observers, I honestly do not think that it...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1117 (Link to this contribution) In that case, I shall criticise my right hon. Friend for tabling amendments that might result in uni...
Eric Forth | 443 c1116-7 (Link to this contribution) I carefully avoided referring to the Government regions; I do not think that I made any reference to...
Eric Forth | 443 c1120-1 (Link to this contribution) There may be an anomaly there as well, but we do not know whether that is the case. We are now caugh...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1120 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Bexhill and Battle (Gregory Barker) and I are suspicious of the region...
Eric Forth | 443 c1120 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend. That was indeed my approach, but the Minister has reversed all that...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1120 (Link to this contribution) I am becoming persuaded of my right hon. Friend’s opinion on the matter. If the regions do a bottom-...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1121 (Link to this contribution) How does my right hon. Friend think that the possible inclusion of the Greater London authority fits...
Eric Forth | 443 c1105 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 7, in page 2, line 20, at end insert
Eric Forth | 443 c1106 (Link to this contribution) Of course that is the case, but we have to strike a balance to find the most sensible and workable w...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1106 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend accept that one of the problems regarding regional issues relates to the r...
Eric Forth | 443 c1107 (Link to this contribution) That raises an important point. We could, and should, equally ask how we would set about formulating...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1107 (Link to this contribution) I take my right hon. Friend’s point, but might it not have been better to differentiate between rura...
Eric Forth | 443 c1106-7 (Link to this contribution) I have to concede to my hon. Friend that, whenever we draw boundaries and delineate areas, there wil...
Eric Forth | 443 c1103 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend’s point raises the question of the sectoral effect—in other words, which sectors are ...
Mark Lazarowicz | 443 c1104 (Link to this contribution) No one has suggested that different greenhouse gases have different impacts, although the rate of em...
Eric Forth | 443 c1112-3 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the hon. Gentleman’s advice that I have discussions with my party leader, but ours...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1113 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend accept that by 1 November 2008 the leader of our party, our right hon. Fri...
Eric Forth | 443 c1112 (Link to this contribution) Sadly, I do not, because—as I have tried to explain—I have a jaundiced view of targets and I favour ...
Mark Lazarowicz | 443 c1112 (Link to this contribution) I am somewhat surprised at what the right hon. Gentleman has to say. His own party leader has public...
Eric Forth | 443 c1111-2 (Link to this contribution) I can hardly bear to contemplate that thought. If the Prime Minister is simply hanging on to office ...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1112 (Link to this contribution) It is not clear to me whether my right hon. Friend supports amendments Nos. 30 and 31, which would r...
Eric Forth | 443 c1111 (Link to this contribution) I am a naturally suspicious sort of person. It does not take my hon. Friend to encourage any suspici...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1111 (Link to this contribution) Is it around the time at which, if the present Prime Minister is still in office, he will have been ...
Eric Forth | 443 c1113 (Link to this contribution) Would that that were so, but I shall not explore that matter any further, because if I did Mr. Deput...
Eric Forth | 443 c1113 (Link to this contribution) I am about to conclude, because I sense that my hon. Friend has a contribution to make and I would n...
Eric Forth | 443 c1110-1 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my hon. Friend is right in that. That is one of the trade-offs or balances that we in...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1111 (Link to this contribution) Is my right hon. Friend not concerned that the let-out is linked into a specific date, which is 1 No...
David Lepper | 443 c1055 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the Minister on the finely honed observation with which he finished. Before he finall...
David Drew | 443 c1053 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has pointed out that the poorest and the oldest people tend to live in the oldest prope...
Jim Cunningham | 443 c1052 (Link to this contribution) As my hon. Friend probably knows, Coventry city council was probably one of the first local authorit...
Eric Forth | 443 c1062-3 (Link to this contribution) Funnily enough, that reassures me, because it shows that our Front Benchers are not totally in bed w...
Brooks Newmark | 443 c1069 (Link to this contribution) The spirit of the Bill is intended to deal with climate change, and as I read it, the phrase ““have ...
Christopher Chope | 443 c1086-7 (Link to this contribution) We have had a useful debate. I am grateful to the Minister for joining in, for telling us what infor...
Speaker | 443 c1079 (Link to this contribution) Order. I have ruled that we are talking not about the merits of one kind of energy apropos of anothe...
Eric Forth | 443 c1119-20 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that, and I am sure that the Minister is as well. Our old friend...
Mark Lazarowicz | 443 c1108 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate the right hon. Gentleman’s close scrutiny of the Bill, but it might have been a little ...
Malcolm Wicks | 443 c1051 (Link to this contribution) The Mayor, the Deputy Mayor, Nicky Gavron, and the Greater London authority are taking the lead when...
Eric Forth | 443 c1121 (Link to this contribution) Frankly, that is for the Minister to say. He should come back to the House, perhaps when we next con...
Subjects
Combined heat and power Air pollution Climate change Housing Environment protection Energy Electricity generation Fuel poverty Local government Planning Renewable energy Nitrous oxide
Legislation
Climate Change and Sustainable Energy Bill 2005-06
Link
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