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Debate on bill on Friday, 15 May 2009, in the House of Commons, led by John Bercow. The answering member was Sarah McCarthy-Fry.

Special Educational Needs and Disability (Support) Bill

Special Educational Needs and Disability (Support) Bill. Second reading debate. Bill withdrawn.

Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
492 c1106-64 
Session
2008-09
Department
Department for Children, Schools and Families
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Related items
Special Educational Needs and Disability (Support) Bill.
Wednesday, 21 January 2009
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
John Bercow | 492 c1164 (Link to this contribution) I am extraordinarily grateful to the Minister for her detailed, comprehensive and explicit response ...
John Bercow | 492 c1164 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the Minister will also confirm that evidence of non-compliance will influence the assess...
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John Bercow | 492 c1159 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the Under-Secretary for giving way, because I am looking through my check...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 492 c1159-60 (Link to this contribution) We are certainly as committed to the secondary area as we are to the primary area. I do not have the...
John Bercow | 492 c1160 (Link to this contribution) May I ask the Minister two things? First, would she be willing to include interested right hon. and ...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 492 c1160-4 (Link to this contribution) I can indeed give the hon. Gentleman that assurance. Specialist services will be part of what is req...
John Bercow | 492 c1164 (Link to this contribution) In response to that, I have again received an encouraging nod of the ministerial head. Let me end b...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 492 c1153 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention and congratulate her on the birth of her grandchild. She ...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 492 c1152-3 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Buckingham (John Bercow) on both his success in the ballot and hi...
Baroness Kramer | 492 c1153 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for giving way. I apologise for coming to the debate so late; my new grandchild...
John Bercow | 492 c1150 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way and for his generous remarks about my own little ...
Paul Rowen | 492 c1150-2 (Link to this contribution) I agree entirely with the hon. Gentleman; the condition is established. A few months ago, one hon. M...
Robert Flello | 492 c1148-9 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes her point well, almost to the extent that I need not comment further—but I shal...
Paul Rowen | 492 c1149-50 (Link to this contribution) I also wish to begin by congratulating the hon. Member for Buckingham (John Bercow) on the Bill. Lik...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 492 c1154-5 (Link to this contribution) His name is Archie. To come back to the point made by the hon. Member for Richmond Park (Susan Kram...
John Bercow | 492 c1140 (Link to this contribution) We are exploring an extremely important theme, as I am sure you would readily testify, Mr. Deputy Sp...
Robert Flello | 492 c1140 (Link to this contribution) All I can say is that is that the hon. Gentleman's children must be blessed to hear on a regular bas...
Tim Loughton | 492 c1141 (Link to this contribution) And I bet he doesn't take interventions from them.
Robert Flello | 492 c1141 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman suggests that they should intervene themselves; I am sure that they will soon lea...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 492 c1141 (Link to this contribution) While we are talking about recollections from the womb, may I ask my hon. Friend whether he is aware...
Robert Flello | 492 c1141-3 (Link to this contribution) I think that I shall draw a curtain around this particular aspect of the debate, save to say, if I m...
John Bercow | 492 c1144 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has just made an extremely astute observation about the lunchtime period and the ...
Robert Flello | 492 c1144-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention, in which the hon. Gentleman raised some excellent points. I thi...
John Bercow | 492 c1147 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that the hon. Gentleman is giving proper scrutiny to the exclusions issue, and in particul...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1147-8 (Link to this contribution) The issue is not only to do with how dummies or soothers can impact on the language development of a...
Robert Flello | 492 c1147 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention. It is worse than intolerable; it is absolutely dis...
John Bercow | 492 c1133 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right; that culture of brinkmanship is widespread. Does he acknowledge that, when ...
Tim Loughton | 492 c1133-5 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. We must consider not only the cost of the in-house staff but the...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1133 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making an interesting case. He has demonstrated that some children are less eq...
Tim Loughton | 492 c1133 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady makes a valid point. These cases can be an enormous financial and emotional drain on t...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1138 (Link to this contribution) What is the source of the statistic that 83 per cent. of the children who have gone to private schoo...
Tim Loughton | 492 c1138-9 (Link to this contribution) I cannot give the exact reference here, but I think that the hon. Lady will find it in the Bow Group...
John Bercow | 492 c1135 (Link to this contribution) There is a lot going on, and we need to be clear that it is all co-ordinated and inclined to be self...
Tim Loughton | 492 c1135-8 (Link to this contribution) That is a very fair point; I absolutely endorse it. More legislation and regulation is not always t...
Robert Flello | 492 c1139-40 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Member for East Worthing and Shoreham (Tim Loughton) for his contribution ...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1140 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for his kind comments. Of course, as public speakers we all learn from the ma...
Robert Flello | 492 c1140 (Link to this contribution) I fully agree with my hon. Friend's comments. I did not wish to give the impression that parents mus...
John Bercow | 492 c1132 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is as ever making a compelling case. In light of what he has just said, would he take...
Tim Loughton | 492 c1130-2 (Link to this contribution) May I first, in this era of heightened precaution, declare my entry in the Register of Members' Inte...
Tim Loughton | 492 c1132-3 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree, and I shall outline in a little more detail some proposals that we would like, to ...
John Bercow | 492 c1128 (Link to this contribution) Bringing up a disabled child can be a very rewarding experience for a parent, but it can also be har...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1130 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right to draw our attention to my hon. Friend the Member for Gateshead, East a...
John Bercow | 492 c1130 (Link to this contribution) We come back to the issue of early identification and intervention—the elephant in the room—which un...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1126-7 (Link to this contribution) Once again, I thank the hon. Gentleman for his kind comments—that is the first time I have been call...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1127-8 (Link to this contribution) My view is that it is incredibly important that the local education authority works with social serv...
Robert Flello | 492 c1127 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend's comments flagged up in my mind a case of someone who came to see me a couple of yea...
John Bercow | 492 c1125-6 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is making a racy and intoxicating speech, which I am richly enjoying. As she knows bec...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1125 (Link to this contribution) I could not agree more. It is vital that we all understand that people are different. It is vital th...
Robert Flello | 492 c1125 (Link to this contribution) I am greatly enjoying my hon. Friend's speech, and I shall keep my intervention brief. Does she agre...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1123-5 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right, and there can be no excuse. Whenever we look into the causes...
John Bercow | 492 c1123 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is making a very good speech, which is of interest to all Members. In light of what sh...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1123 (Link to this contribution) I agree. Such conditions need to be spotted early. In the centre that I visited, a fully trained tea...
Robert Flello | 492 c1122-3 (Link to this contribution) A week or so ago, when the Government were opening the 3,000th Sure Start centre, I visited one of t...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1122 (Link to this contribution) I agree that we are dealing with a massive hidden problem. It is, in fact, the problem of maternal s...
Tim Loughton | 492 c1121-2 (Link to this contribution) What the hon. Lady is saying is very interesting. I recently visited a home for foetal alcohol-damag...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1121 (Link to this contribution) May I say what a pleasure it is to speak after the hon. Member for Buckingham (John Bercow) on this ...
Robert Flello | 492 c1118 (Link to this contribution) I would certainly like to add to those words of the hon. Member for Buckingham (John Bercow) that my...
John Bercow | 492 c1115-7 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the right hon. Gentleman, and what is more, I agree with him. It must be ...
Robert Flello | 492 c1119 (Link to this contribution) I should like to pursue that point further. I feel that any child who has been permanently excluded ...
John Bercow | 492 c1118-9 (Link to this contribution) The symbiotic relationship between the hon. Gentleman and me on these matters is becoming increasing...
John Bercow | 492 c1119-21 (Link to this contribution) I certainly agree. We know that all too often provision for SEN children tails off towards the end o...
Robert Flello | 492 c1113 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Robert Flello | 492 c1114 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is being extremely kind and generous. Before he moves on, I should point out that...
John Bercow | 492 c1113 (Link to this contribution) Yes, okay. I give way once more to the hon. Gentleman.
Denis MacShane | 492 c1114-5 (Link to this contribution) Believe me, Mr. Deputy Speaker, there is a lot of cross-party support for the Bill, although I am so...
John Bercow | 492 c1114 (Link to this contribution) I am unenthusiastic about a SENCO having a wide range of other responsibilities because it seems to ...
Brooks Newmark | 492 c1113 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way? It is relevant to what he says.
John Bercow | 492 c1113 (Link to this contribution) It certainly is. That is a kindly intervention, because the hon. Lady thereby immediately prompts me...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1113 (Link to this contribution) Again, I should be very interested to hear about the hon. Gentleman's experiences throughout the cou...
John Bercow | 492 c1113 (Link to this contribution) I am sympathetic to that view, because I tend to take the view that something that is everybody's re...
Brooks Newmark | 492 c1113 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate very much what my hon. Friend says about the importance of SENCOs, and there has to be ...
John Bercow | 492 c1113 (Link to this contribution) I have a feeling that the hon. Lady is itching to make an intervention.
John Bercow | 492 c1113 (Link to this contribution) Just before I give way to the hon. Lady, I underline the point that my colleagues and I believe that...
Brooks Newmark | 492 c1110 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate my hon. Friend's patience in giving way. I understand the motives driving the points th...
John Bercow | 492 c1109-10 (Link to this contribution) I agree entirely. I have come across a great many cases, not least in some disadvantaged communities...
Robert Flello | 492 c1109 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is very kind, and I appreciate his giving way. He is being patient with me, and h...
John Bercow | 492 c1109 (Link to this contribution) I give way to the hon. Gentleman, and then I really should like to make some progress with my backgr...
John Bercow | 492 c1111-3 (Link to this contribution) The answer to the hon. Lady, to whom I am grateful for her interest and her intervention, is that ac...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1111 (Link to this contribution) As ever, the hon. Gentleman is making a powerful and passionate case, and as usual I find myself agr...
John Bercow | 492 c1110-1 (Link to this contribution) One of the things that I find most disappointing and disconcerting about the SEN debate is that all ...
John Bercow | 492 c1108-9 (Link to this contribution) Yes is the short answer to my hon. Friend. Like him, I have a child with special educational needs. ...
Brooks Newmark | 492 c1108 (Link to this contribution) I, too, congratulate my hon. Friend on bringing this Bill before the House. Like him, I have a child...
Robert Flello | 492 c1107 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on his Bill—very welcome it is, too. I echo the comments of the ho...
John Bercow | 492 c1107 (Link to this contribution) My understanding is that the statistic reflects the current known reality. It is not a guess or a pr...
Robert Flello | 492 c1107 (Link to this contribution) I do indeed fear that the number of young people in our schools, and in pre-school, with special edu...
John Bercow | 492 c1107-8 (Link to this contribution) I am in no position to give any alternative estimate, let alone an authoritative one, but it seems t...
John Bercow | 492 c1106 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. I begin by declaring an interest as an advi...
Evan Harris | 492 c1106 (Link to this contribution) The reason why there are so many people here on a busy constituency Friday, as the hon. Gentleman po...
John Bercow | 492 c1107 (Link to this contribution) That was an unsolicited tribute—something that one does not often expect to hear in our business. At...
Mary Creagh | 492 c1128-30 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for that interesting point and there is a problem with our definition of ...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 492 c1155-9 (Link to this contribution) From £500,000, so it is an additional £80,000. It is obvious from all this that we want this countr...
Subjects
Disability Children Classroom assistants Autism Inspections Discrimination Dyslexia Pupil exclusions Staff Standards Schools Teachers Special educational needs Training
Legislation
Special Educational Needs and Disability (Support) Bill 2008-09
Contains statistics
Yes
Link
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