Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Tuesday, 7 July 2020, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Gardiner of Kimble.

Agriculture Bill

Lords committee stage first day. Clause 1 under consideration.

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 804 cc995-80
Session: 2019-21
Department: Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Legislative stage: Committee stage
Procedure: Hybrid proceedings
Chamber / Committee: House of Lords chamber
Related items: Agriculture Bill 2019-21. Brought from the Commons.
Monday, 18 May 2020
Bills
House of Lords; Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee thirteenth report.
Wednesday, 3 June 2020
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords; Deposited Paper DEP2020-0495
Wednesday, 12 August 2020
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions: Baroness Henig | 804 c995 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, a limited number of Members are here in the Chamber, respecting social distancing. If t...; Baroness Bloomfield of Hinton Waldrist | 804 c995 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, with the leave of the House, I draw to the attention of noble Lords that there is a ver...; Earl of Dundee | 804 c995 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
The Earl of Dundee
1: Clause 1, page 2, line 6, leave out “may” and insert “...; Earl of Dundee | 804 c996 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Amendment 1 is connected to Amendment 74, also in my name. Both amendments address the ...; Baroness Henig | 804 c996 (Link to this contribution)
I shall have to move the amendment on the noble Earl’s behalf. I beg to move Amendment 1.; Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 804 cc996-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have attached my name to Amendment 1 and shall speak also to a number of other amendm...; Lord Teverson | 804 cc998-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak to my Amendment 67 and I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett, for her ...; Lord Lucas | 804 c999 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have a number of amendments in this group. Amendments 5, 17 and 89 question the diffe...; Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 804 cc999-1001 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in speaking to my three amendments, I take this opportunity to thank the Minister, the ...; Lord Bruce of Bennachie | 804 cc1001-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am glad to follow the noble Baroness, whose closing remarks on pasture-fed livestock ...; Baroness Garden of Frognal | 804 c1002 (Link to this contribution)
I call the noble Earl, Lord Dundee. We lost the connection earlier, but I understand that we can ...; Earl of Dundee | 804 cc1002-4 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you. I will resume at the point where I was cut off.
In itself, Clause 1 is evidence ...; Earl of Devon | 804 cc1004-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I echo the words of the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh, in congratulating the Minister a...; Lord Greaves | 804 cc1005-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, there has already been some discussion which hinges on the question: what is the Bill a...; Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 804 cc1007-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support Amendments 1 and 37. I understand what the noble Earl, Lord Dundee, said abou...; Baroness Meacher | 804 cc1008-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will speak to my Amendment 79; I thank the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, for his support....; Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 804 cc1009-1010 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a great pleasure to be here today and to contribute to a debate on this wide-rang...; Earl of Caithness | 804 cc1010-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will pick up a theme started by the noble Earl, Lord Devon, when he mentioned the imp...; Lord Wigley | 804 cc1011-2 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to follow the noble Earl, Lord Caithness. I certainly identify with his comments on th...; Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 804 c1012 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is always a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Wigley. I will speak to my own A...; Lord Thomas of Gresford | 804 cc1013-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Jones, and I certainly support her ...; Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 804 cc1014-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I intend to be brief, as requested. I am very proud to be a member of the excellent org...; Baroness Bryan of Partick | 804 cc1015-6 (Link to this contribution)
I speak in support of Amendment 66, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Wigley. If the UK had not...; Lord Marlesford | 804 cc1016-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I declare my interest as a Suffolk farmer. It must be a matter of real regret that the ...; Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 804 c1017 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord, Lord Wigley, has described why it is essential that, although agriculture is devo...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 804 cc1017-8 (Link to this contribution)
Rather unusually, my Lords, I speak not to support an amendment but to oppose some. I live in Dev...; Lord Whitty | 804 cc1018-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I asked to intervene on this group primarily to make a few general points, which relate...; Duke of Wellington | 804 cc1019-1020 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I rise to comment briefly on and support three amendments. I should declare my agricult...; Baroness Young of Old Scone | 804 c1020 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I would like to make a general point about this group. We have a considerable number of...; Baroness Mallalieu | 804 cc1020-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support Amendments 37 and 78. A great many noble Lords from all sides of the House ha...; Lord Empey | 804 cc1022-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I wish to add to the remarks made by one or two participants about being balloted out o...; Lord Adonis | 804 cc1023-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to pick up where the noble Lord, Lord Empey, has just left off on the hugely imp...; Lord Chidgey | 804 cc1024-5 (Link to this contribution)
I will speak to Amendment 83 to Clause 1, in particular the work that my noble friend Lord Greave...; Lord Inglewood | 804 cc1025-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as one of the silenced ones at Second Reading, I must begin by declaring my interests i...; Lord Judd | 804 cc1026-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my interests, all unremunerated so far as they are relevant to the Bill, are listed in ...; Lord De Mauley | 804 c1027 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will speak briefly on Amendments 5, 17 and 27, in the name of my noble friend Lord Lu...; Lord Morris of Aberavon | 804 cc1027-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will say a few words in support of Amendment 78. I come from a long line of sheep far...; Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 804 c1028 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in the new farming environment there will be many challenges, which undoubtedly will af...; Lord Naseby | 804 cc1028-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have enormous sympathy for my noble friend on the Front Bench. This debate is all-emb...; Lord Tyler | 804 cc1029-1030 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Earl, Lord Dundee, when opening the debate, observed that Clause 1 gives Mini...; Lord Blunkett | 804 cc1030-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very pleased to be back in the Chamber after nearly 15 weeks, and to reflect on wh...; Viscount Trenchard | 804 cc1031-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am delighted to follow the noble Lord, Lord Blunkett, and strongly endorse his remark...; Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 804 cc1033-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we have engaged in a long and wide-ranging debate on part of the first clause of this B...; Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 804 cc1035-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken on their amendments today. We have indeed had a ...; Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 804 cc1036-1044 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this has quite clearly been an extensive debate; it has been most rewarding for me to h...; Lord McNicol of West Kilbride | 804 c1040 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have received requests from a number of noble Lords to speak after the Minister: the ...; Earl of Devon | 804 c1040 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise for keeping us a little longer on this group of amendments, but I would not...; Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 804 c1040 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to make sure I get this right. I referred to the 2018 regulations for England ab...; Lord Bruce of Bennachie | 804 c1045 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his very positive response to my amendment, which I never doubted he wou...; Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 804 c1045 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the noble Lord. I did not have an opportunity to flesh out the tests and tr...; Lord Teverson | 804 c1045 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his extensive reply. I was particularly pleased that he mentioned the sh...; Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 804 c1045 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the noble Lord. Clearly, rural-proofing means that anything we do across Wh...; Earl of Dundee | 804 c1046 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I join other noble Lords in welcoming and supporting the Bill, and I thank the Minister...; Lord McNicol of West Kilbride | 804 c1046 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we now come to the group beginning with Amendment 2. I remind noble Lords that anyone w...; Lord Addington | 804 c1046 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Lord Addington
2: Clause 1, page 2, line 7, after “purposes” insert “to thos...; Lord Addington | 804 cc1046-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the origins of this amendment are fairly straightforward. As we go through this Bill, w...; Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 804 cc1047-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will speak to three amendments in my name in this group and thank the noble Baronesse...; Baroness Parminter | 804 cc1049-1050 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will speak to two amendments I have tabled in this group, namely Amendments 118 and 1...; Lord Lucas | 804 c1050 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak to my Amendments 108 and 109. I am looking for two reassurances from the ...; Baroness Grey-Thompson | 804 c1050 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise for not taking part in the Second Reading of the Bill due to logistical iss...; Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 804 c1051 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Grey-Thompson. I was also excluded ...; Earl of Devon | 804 cc1051-2 (Link to this contribution)
The amendments I have tabled in this group largely go to the same issue which the noble Baronesse...; Lord Greaves | 804 c1052 (Link to this contribution)
I have just been told that because I was not here at the beginning of this group, I cannot speak....; Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 804 cc1052-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support Amendment 106 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh of Pickering. ...; Earl of Caithness | 804 cc1053-4 (Link to this contribution)
In introducing the amendment, the noble Lord, Lord Addington, said that farmers would have to get...; Lord Wigley | 804 c1054 (Link to this contribution)
My Amendment 94, which I will speak to solely, addresses a central weakness in the Bill, identifi...; Lord Carrington | 804 cc1054-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I declare my farming and land-owning interests, as set out in the register, in particul...; Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 804 cc1056-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is my first opportunity to speak on this Bill, as unfortunately I did not make the...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 804 c1057 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was delighted by what the Minister had to say about native breeds. None the less, the...; Lord Rooker | 804 cc1057-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise that I was not able to speak at Second Reading; I was not sworn in to your ...; Lord Burnett | 804 cc1058-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Rooker. He was a distinguished Farming ...; Lord Liddle | 804 cc1059-1060 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am no expert on agricultural questions but, as a Cumbria county councillor, I am deep...; Lord Marlesford | 804 c1060 (Link to this contribution)
I want to follow on closely from what the noble Lord, Lord Liddle, was saying. I believe that the...; Viscount Trenchard | 804 cc1060-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am a bit puzzled as to the intentions of the noble Lord, Lord Addington, and the nobl...; Baroness Young of Old Scone | 804 c1062 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am afraid that I want to take a different position from several noble Lords who have ...; Baroness Garden of Frognal | 804 c1062 (Link to this contribution)
I understand that the noble Baroness, Lady Mallalieu, has scratched, so I now call the noble Lord...; Lord Empey | 804 cc1062-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, one theme that has come up today has been the theme of definition. In the last group, t...; Baroness Garden of Frognal | 804 c1063 (Link to this contribution)
I call the noble Lord, Lord Naseby. We cannot hear him so we will move on to the noble Lord, Lord...; Lord De Mauley | 804 c1063 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will speak briefly to Amendment 103, the impact of which would be to limit the range ...; Lord Morris of Aberavon | 804 c1064 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 106, which I support in spirit. It is good to see my noble fr...; Duke of Montrose | 804 cc1064-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, forgive me if I turn off the video, because my signal is very poor. I declare my intere...; Lord McConnell of Glenscorrodale | 804 c1065 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will first say that I strongly support Amendment 118 in the name of the noble Barones...; Earl of Kinnoull | 804 c1065 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, after the noble Lord, Lord Judd, speaks, I will call the noble Lord, Lord Naseby, again...; Lord Inglewood | 804 cc1065-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, with the first group of amendments, we did the easy bit: we discussed the generalities....; Lord Judd | 804 c1067 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I return to the basic amendment for this group from the noble Lord, Lord Addington, and...; Earl of Kinnoull | 804 c1067 (Link to this contribution)
I regret that we have been unable to reconnect with the noble Lord, Lord Naseby, so I call the no...; Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 804 cc1067-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this group of amendments moves us to the question of what type of land will qualify for...; Lord Grantchester | 804 cc1069-1070 (Link to this contribution)
I thank all Peers who have tabled their amendments in this group. At the start of each day in Com...; Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 804 cc1070-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for what again has been an interesting debate which has taken u...; Earl of Kinnoull | 804 c1075 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have received one request to speak after the Minister. I call the noble Lord, Lord Gr...; Lord Grantchester | 804 c1076 (Link to this contribution)
I rise merely to press the Minister on his statements around the different levels of tiers and ho...; Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 804 c1076 (Link to this contribution)
Clearly, we know that there are 80,000-plus claimants under the BPS at the moment. Obviously, the...; Lord Addington | 804 c1076 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for his usual courteous and informed reply. However, the point tha...; Earl of Kinnoull | 804 c1076 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we now come to the group beginning with Amendment 6. I remind noble Lords that anyone w...; Lord Addington | 804 cc1076-1470 (Link to this contribution)
Moved by
Lord Addington
6: Clause 1, page 2, line 9, at end insert “and people’s acce...; Lord Addington | 804 cc1470-1078 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we come to a rather more honed group of amendments. We are talking about access, inspir...; Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 804 cc1482-1079 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, like some other noble Lords, I fell victim to the Second Reading cull. Had I been able ...; Baroness Grey-Thompson | 804 cc1079-1081 (Link to this contribution)
Many of the amendments to which I have added my name cover issues around water. I welcome the com...; Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 804 cc1081-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have added my name to Amendments 6 and 18 and I am very happy to support the noble Lo...; Lord Greaves | 804 cc1082-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, yes, there have been fires on Pennine moors during the hot weather and lockdown, almost...; Lord Lucas | 804 cc1083-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendments in this group are crucial to the success of this Bill—or at least, the s...; Baroness Hodgson of Abinger | 804 cc1084-1507 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 100 in my name. I welcome the opportunity to take part in scr...; Lord Judd | 804 cc1507-1085 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Addington, is to be congratulated on this group of amendments. The...; Earl of Devon | 804 cc1085-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am amazed to hear that there were 11 days in Committee for the then CROW Bill and we ...; Baroness Kennedy of Cradley | 804 c1086 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the general aim of Clause 1 to move to a system of public payments for public...; Lord Moynihan | 804 cc1513-1087 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Addington, the noble Baroness, Lady Grey-Thompson, ...; Lord Blencathra | 804 cc1087-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I declare my interests, as on the register. I too regret that I was unable to participa...; Lord Clark of Windermere | 804 cc1088-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Government deserve congratulations for bringing forward this Agriculture Bill. It o...; Baroness Bloomfield of Hinton Waldrist | 804 c1089 (Link to this contribution)
We have pressures on our time, so will the noble Lord draw his comments to a close?; Lord Clark of Windermere | 804 c1522 (Link to this contribution)
I was going to do that. We have 19 million visitors. In order to accommodate them, there need to ...; Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 804 cc1522-1090 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall be brief as I do not have amendments in this little group. I congratulate the n...; Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 804 cc1090-1524 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I rise to support the amendment and to congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Addington. As ...; Earl of Caithness | 804 cc1524-1092 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, first, how nice it is to see the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, back with us and participatin...; Lord Mann | 804 cc1092-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, to begin, I take my reference point from the Book of Genesis, where Adam and Eve were t...; Lord Cormack | 804 cc1093-4 (Link to this contribution)
I want to begin by saying, “There endeth the lesson”. Having sat here now for well over seven hou...; Lord Rosser | 804 cc1094-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will speak in support of Amendments 6, 9, 98 and 111 in this group. For many people, ...; Viscount Trenchard | 804 cc1096-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, whilst I can support reasonable extension to public access, as I said earlier it is ind...; Duke of Montrose | 804 cc1097-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I start by asking my noble friend the Minister whether, in his mind, the definition in ...; Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 804 cc1098-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this group of amendments is primarily about financial assistance being provided for pub...; Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 804 cc1099-1101 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Addington, and the many other noble Lords who spo...; Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 804 cc1534-1105 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords. This has been an important debate. When preparing for...; Earl of Kinnoull | 804 c1104 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have received no requests to speak after the Minister, so I call the noble Lord, Lord...; Lord Addington | 804 c1536 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Minister has done his usual thing of being thorough and charming at the same time—a...
Subjects: Access Disability Animal welfare Crops Agriculture Air pollution Coastal areas Climate change Countryside Biofuels Biodiversity Advisory services Animal feed Health Flood control Education Eligibility Environment Genetics Energy Land drainage Food Forestry Horses Land use Government assistance Horticulture Green belt Farmers Northern Ireland Payments Livestock Public footpaths Nature conservation Scotland Standards Water Sustainable development Wales Rights of way Tenants Transitional arrangements Wildlife Rural areas Subsidies Urban areas Trees Reservoirs Wetlands Common agricultural policy Hill farming Nitrates Soil Agricultural products Marginal land Impact assessments Crayfish Environmental land management schemes
Legislation: Agriculture Bill 2019-21
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