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Adjournment debate on Thursday, 24 November 2005, in the House of Commons, led by Gwyneth Dunwoody. The answering member was Stephen Ladyman.

Road Pricing

Westminster Hall adjournment debate on road pricing.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
439 c491-526WH 
Session
2005-06
Department
Department for Transport
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
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Proceeding contributions
John Pugh | 439 c494WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady will appreciate that the matter is not just about legal equity: overloaded lorries ove...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 439 c495WH (Link to this contribution) : I am sure the hon. Gentleman is right to raise the particular problem in his constituency, but he ...
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David Leslie Taylor | 439 c492WH (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend encouraged by the fact that the Government appear to have taken a decision in prin...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 439 c492-3WH (Link to this contribution) : My hon. Friend raises an important point. The Government sought views on whether to carry out more...
David Leslie Taylor | 439 c493WH (Link to this contribution) : My hon. Friend mentioned that control of the M6 toll is almost entirely within the power of Midlan...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 439 c493-4WH (Link to this contribution) : If the Government intend to go ahead with a charging scheme, they have several responsibilities. F...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 439 c491-2WH (Link to this contribution) I am always very flattered to listen to your kind compliments, Sir Nicholas, which are all to the ma...
Speaker | 439 c491WH (Link to this contribution) (in the Chair): I call the very distinguished hon. Member for Crewe and Nantwich (Mrs. Dunwoody).
David Leslie Taylor | 439 c495WH (Link to this contribution) : In this interesting section of the report, the Committee looks at the impacts on travel behaviour ...
Stephen Ladyman | 439 c521-3WH (Link to this contribution) : The hon. Gentleman is right and we must keep that possibility in mind. As we conduct the pilots, w...
Nick Hurd | 439 c523WH (Link to this contribution) : The Minister has made it clear that the Government's preference is for revenue neutrality. Perhaps...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 439 c494WH (Link to this contribution) : That is why we took, in the first instance, the decision to move ahead in the way proposed. The Se...
Philip Hollobone | 439 c494-5WH (Link to this contribution) I very much concur with the hon. Lady. Does she agree that problems of congestion will become partic...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 439 c501WH (Link to this contribution) : I am grateful for the hon. Gentleman's kind words. However, he might like to know that, through Cu...
Nick Hurd | 439 c501-2WH (Link to this contribution) : I thank the hon. Lady for that intervention, which was extremely helpful in reinforcing my point t...
David Drew | 439 c502WH (Link to this contribution) : I am sure that the hon. Gentleman knows what I am going to say. The problem is that, in real terms...
Nick Hurd | 439 c502WH (Link to this contribution) : I know the analysis and I have seen the data. I cannot disprove the fact that the real cost of mot...
Nick Hurd | 439 c500-1WH (Link to this contribution) : I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention. I do not know the data for Germany, but I am hap...
Stephen Ladyman | 439 c503WH (Link to this contribution) : I will answer those questions now. Over 30 councils have expressed an interest and we will be maki...
Nick Hurd | 439 c502WH (Link to this contribution) : I accept that the congestion charge has changed behaviour. Like my right hon. Friend, I support th...
Lord Young of Cookham | 439 c502WH (Link to this contribution) : My hon. Friend's speech is much better than the one that preceded it. I press him on whether the m...
Nick Hurd | 439 c502-3WH (Link to this contribution) : I thank the hon. Gentleman for reinforcing that point. Another concern is about the benefits. The...
Andrew Love | 439 c502WH (Link to this contribution) : I take issue with the hon. Gentleman's earlier comments. I understand that the congestion charge o...
Philip Hollobone | 439 c504-5WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful, Sir Nicholas. Thank you for correcting me on the protocol. Like my right hon. Friend ...
John Pugh | 439 c505-9WH (Link to this contribution) Had hundreds of hon. Members appeared here to speak about road user charging, many could have avoide...
Speaker | 439 c504WH (Link to this contribution) (in the Chair): May I just say that in calling Dr. Pugh, I am starting the wind-ups, so if any other...
Nick Hurd | 439 c503-4WH (Link to this contribution) : I am grateful to the Minister for that answer. After the rejection in the Edinburgh referendum, I ...
Speaker | 439 c504WH (Link to this contribution) (in the Chair): I call Dr. John Pugh.
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 439 c510WH (Link to this contribution) : On a point of order, Sir Nicholas. It is extraordinarily kind to call me now, as I was hoping not ...
Speaker | 439 c510WH (Link to this contribution) (in the Chair): I understand that the hon. Member for Crewe and Nantwich (Mrs. Dunwoody) wishes to r...
John Pugh | 439 c509-10WH (Link to this contribution) : I do sometimes. The hon. Lady suggests that I take a train from a sedentary position—well, one can...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 439 c509WH (Link to this contribution) : The hon. Gentleman should have taken the train.
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 439 c495WH (Link to this contribution) : My hon. Friend is right to take me to task in as much as the Committee did not specifically includ...
Andrew Love | 439 c495-6WH (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for giving way, and apologise to you, Sir Nicholas, for arriving late for the...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 439 c496WH (Link to this contribution) : As I said earlier, what worried the Committee was the feeling that the Government control the inte...
Speaker | 439 c497WH (Link to this contribution) (in the Chair): Order. Before the right hon. Member for North-West Hampshire (Sir George Young) spea...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 439 c496WH (Link to this contribution) : I am just finishing. Above all, Her Majesty's Government have a special duty not only to offer war...
Lord Young of Cookham | 439 c497WH (Link to this contribution) Sir Nicholas, as may have become clear as a result of the time that elapsed between the hon. Member ...
Lord Young of Cookham | 439 c497-8WH (Link to this contribution) : Her time will come. For the strategic reason that she gave, it is necessary to make a decision abo...
John Pugh | 439 c498WH (Link to this contribution) : The hon. Gentleman may or may not support its analysis, but can he explain why the Campaign to Pro...
Lord Young of Cookham | 439 c498-9WH (Link to this contribution) : I confess that I arrived equipped with a sudoku puzzle, with which I had made very little progress...
David Drew | 439 c498WH (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that the problem with the whole subject is that it is urban-focu...
Lord Young of Cookham | 439 c498WH (Link to this contribution) : If road pricing were confined to motorways, the hon. Gentleman would be correct. However, if road ...
Lord Young of Cookham | 439 c499WH (Link to this contribution) : Yes, I do. I was among the small number of my party who advocated a slightly more cautious approac...
Lord Young of Cookham | 439 c499WH (Link to this contribution) : Is the hon. Gentleman asking whether I support congestion charging?
Andrew Love | 439 c499WH (Link to this contribution) : I thank the right hon. Gentleman for allowing me to intervene. May I tempt him just a little? Ther...
David Leslie Taylor | 439 c500WH (Link to this contribution) : Does the hon. Gentleman agree that my hon. Friend the Member for Crewe and Nantwich (Mrs. Dunwoody...
Nick Hurd | 439 c499-500WH (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Sir Nicholas. I apologise for my earlier lethargy, which had more to do with the absence ...
Stephen Ladyman | 439 c524-6WH (Link to this contribution) : I certainly accept that we have to discuss such remissions. We must have an open mind. I would not...
Speaker | 439 c526WH (Link to this contribution) (in the Chair): The House thanks the Minister for his detailed response.
Stephen Ladyman | 439 c523-4WH (Link to this contribution) : Again, that is an excellent question, which brings me back to the point on which I was intending t...
John Hayes | 439 c524WH (Link to this contribution) : I am extremely grateful to the Minister for giving way yet again. He is grappling with incisive qu...
Stephen Ladyman | 439 c523WH (Link to this contribution) : That is an excellent question, and there is no doubt that we need to explore the issue with local ...
John Hayes | 439 c523WH (Link to this contribution) : Can the Minister just explore the regressive nature of the tax? He responded effectively to the po...
John Pugh | 439 c521WH (Link to this contribution) : Can the Minister conceive of a situation, when the milestones are reached, in which he would say, ...
Stephen Ladyman | 439 c520-1WH (Link to this contribution) : Galileo will certainly be a great help, not only for road pricing but for many companies that will...
Stephen Ladyman | 439 c518WH (Link to this contribution) : The 30 or so interested councils present many opportunities, including that of testing behaviour. ...
John Hayes | 439 c518-9WH (Link to this contribution) : I take the Minister's point that the pilots and what can be learned from them should be sufficient...
Stephen Ladyman | 439 c519-20WH (Link to this contribution) : The hon. Gentleman is right. We can learn from other places, and we are studying schemes around th...
Nick Hurd | 439 c520WH (Link to this contribution) : The Minister mentions Galileo. How fundamental is that programme to the Government's vision, or po...
Speaker | 439 c510WH (Link to this contribution) (in the Chair): I congratulate the hon. Lady on her courtesy. I know her constituency and her life w...
John Hayes | 439 c510-6WH (Link to this contribution) What a good debate we have had, but that comes as no surprise when we are discussing a report prepar...
Stephen Ladyman | 439 c516-8WH (Link to this contribution) : I begin by thanking the Liaison Committee and the Transport Committee for promoting the debate and...
Nick Hurd | 439 c518WH (Link to this contribution) : Can the Minister indicate whether the 30 councils that have expressed an interest present an oppor...
Subjects
Costs Fees and charges Pollution Prices Road traffic Roads Road traffic control Tolls
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