Debate on bill on Wednesday, 8 March 2006, in the House of Commons, led by Lord Darling of Roulanish. The answering member was Lord Grayling.

Road Safety Bill [Lords]

Road Safety Bill (HL). Second reading debate. Agreed to on question. Programme motion on proceedings in Committee, on Report, Third Reading and other proceedings agreed to on question (formal). Money resolution agreed to on question (formal). Ways and means resolution agreed to on question (formal).

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 443 c827-915
Session: 2005-06
Department: Department for Transport
Legislative stage: Second reading
Procedure: Programme motions; Money resolutions; Ways and means resolutions
Chamber / Committee: House of Commons chamber
Related items: Road Safety Bill (HL). Brought from the Lords.
Wednesday, 11 January 2006
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions: Linda Riordan | 443 c890 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker; I do beg your pardon. I thank my hon. Friend for her intervention. I ...; Speaker | 443 c889-90 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am obliged to say to the hon. Lady that she really needs to direct her remarks to what migh...; Tom Brake | 443 c890 (Link to this contribution) : I hope it will be a helpful intervention if I suggest that sleep disorders are the sort of thing t...; Linda Riordan | 443 c889 (Link to this contribution) May I urge the Minister to seize the opportunity provided by the Road Safety Bill to address the pro...; Andrew Selous | 443 c885-8 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Member for Glasgow, South (Mr. Harris) has said, the debate has been consensual, and par...; Julie Morgan | 443 c889 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend on her work as chair of the all-party group on sleep disorders. This i...; Tom Harris | 443 c884-5 (Link to this contribution) That brings me to another point. I do not think that most drivers would respond in such a way. Perso...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c885 (Link to this contribution) I shall give my hon. Friend the clarification that he seeks now. The Bill is intended to make legal ...; Linda Riordan | 443 c890 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention and agree with him. Additionally, the licensing sys...; Mark Hunter | 443 c890 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady has raised a number of important points, but the key is surely that the Bill does noth...; Speaker | 443 c891 (Link to this contribution) Order. Both the hon. Members for Carshalton and Wallington (Tom Brake) and for Cheadle (Mark Hunter)...; Linda Riordan | 443 c891 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I agree with the hon. Gentleman, and I am asking the Minister to work...; Lord Harper | 443 c891-3 (Link to this contribution) When the Secretary of State opened the debate he pointed out that the national road safety figures w...; David Leslie Taylor | 443 c893 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right to suggest that we should target certain age groups with certain message...; Lord Harper | 443 c893-5 (Link to this contribution) My point was not exclusive, but the statistics show a notable prevalence of casualties and convictio...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c895 (Link to this contribution) I should make it absolutely clear that the circumstances that the hon. Gentleman is describing would...; Lord Harper | 443 c895 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that intervention, and I do not want to make too much of the issue. Some Me...; Sian C James | 443 c895 (Link to this contribution) Like many Members present today, I have several high-profile cases in my constituency involving youn...; Lord Harper | 443 c897 (Link to this contribution) I am listening very carefully, and the hon. Gentleman says that the difficulty of assembling evidenc...; Peter Soulsby | 443 c898 (Link to this contribution) It is important to remember that the defendant admitted careless driving, and it was very clear, too...; Lord Harper | 443 c895-6 (Link to this contribution) I take that point, and it is clear that in such cases the right offence for someone to be charged wi...; Peter Soulsby | 443 c896-7 (Link to this contribution) It is clear from contributions by right hon. and hon. Members on both sides that there is broad cons...; Tom Brake | 443 c898 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for letting me have the opportunity to put on record the position of the ...; Peter Soulsby | 443 c899 (Link to this contribution) I welcome that contribution. Concerns can be addressed in Committee. No doubt hon. Members who serve...; David Leslie Taylor | 443 c898 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend’s constituency almost neighbours mine. Yes, the Leicester Mercury has an excellent re...; Peter Soulsby | 443 c898 (Link to this contribution) That example—right hon. and hon. Members could no doubt give others—adequately illustrates the gap i...; Peter Bone | 443 c899-902 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Leicester, South (Sir Peter Soulsby), who spoke...; Owen Paterson | 443 c904-6 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted at the cross-party consensus. We agree with the Government that devices that jam dete...; Brian Iddon | 443 c906 (Link to this contribution) I have cited the Haque case, which went from arrest on suspicion of manslaughter through the Crown c...; Owen Paterson | 443 c906 (Link to this contribution) That intervention is helpful. Perhaps we can examine the definition of dangerous driving, which carr...; Sally Keeble | 443 c906 (Link to this contribution) When a stabbing takes place, the victim might or might not die, which determines what the perpetrato...; Owen Paterson | 443 c902-4 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Wellingborough (Mr. Bone), who has ca...; Sally Keeble | 443 c906 (Link to this contribution) Like the hon. Gentleman, I read that point in the briefing. Whether a person is killed as a result o...; Owen Paterson | 443 c906 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady probably wants to include serious injuries, too.; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c909-10 (Link to this contribution) It is good to follow the hon. Member for North Shropshire (Mr. Paterson). From his tone and his desc...; Andrew Miller | 443 c908 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman may be interested to learn that, in Cheshire, the police have employed such a pra...; Owen Paterson | 443 c908-9 (Link to this contribution) That is a helpful intervention. Any sort of training or driving course is a good idea. However, it s...; Tom Harris | 443 c907 (Link to this contribution) Might not that increase the likelihood of accidents? Car drivers will still inevitably want to overt...; Owen Paterson | 443 c907-8 (Link to this contribution) There is a sporting chance that the hon. Gentleman will get on to the Committee, and we can discuss ...; Owen Paterson | 443 c907 (Link to this contribution) I will move on, because we will discuss the matter in detail in Committee. We have concerns about cl...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c911-2 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure how one would introduce first aid into the hazard perception test, but I agree with th...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c910-1 (Link to this contribution) Let me make a bit of progress. I judge from the mood of the House that people can smell their dinner...; Tom Brake | 443 c911 (Link to this contribution) I understand that something like 20 out of about 1,000 questions are on first aid. There is potentia...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c914 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely—and they are. Not only are they painted bright yellow; we insist that they are placed whe...; Owen Paterson | 443 c914 (Link to this contribution) If overt enforcement is intended, would it not be better for the cameras to be painted bright yellow...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c912 (Link to this contribution) My view at the moment is that we do not need this legislation. We can already do this on a satisfact...; Tom Brake | 443 c912 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister tell the House what additional information he will receive and how he and his offi...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c912 (Link to this contribution) I do not mean that the provision is contrary to European law. My understanding is that this will eve...; Owen Paterson | 443 c912 (Link to this contribution) The amendment that we tabled in the Lords applies to new trucks and rigs. However, the Minister comm...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c912-4 (Link to this contribution) No, I cannot promise that. I note the right hon. Gentleman’s comments about heritage Morris Minors, ...; Greg Knight | 443 c912 (Link to this contribution) May I put two points to the Minister? First, my comments about historic vehicles apply just as much ...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c914 (Link to this contribution) I will give way briefly, but I want to end my speech after that.; Owen Paterson | 443 c914 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?; Jim Devine | 443 c914 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way?; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c914-5 (Link to this contribution) I am happy for my hon. Friend’s local paper to advertise the location of the speed cameras and the a...; Jim Devine | 443 c914 (Link to this contribution) The police in my area advertise in the local paper where the speed cameras and speed traps will be. ...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c914 (Link to this contribution) Very briefly.; Stephen Hammond | 443 c884 (Link to this contribution) One could take the alternative view—that the measure was telling people how to conform to the law.; Tom Harris | 443 c884 (Link to this contribution) I could take that view, although I will not. That is exactly the argument that the AA used when it w...; Tom Brake | 443 c882 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman expresses support for a proposal that I advocated earlier. Would he be willing to...; Tom Harris | 443 c883-4 (Link to this contribution) I will resist that temptation because such a body would simply be another quango and would create mo...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c884 (Link to this contribution) Before my hon. Friend digs too deep a hole for me to climb out of, although the AA received a great ...; Tom Harris | 443 c880-1 (Link to this contribution) It is a delight to be able to take part in a debate that, so far, has been almost worryingly saturat...; Paul Rowen | 443 c881 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that one effect of speed humps is an increase in injury for certain pe...; David Kidney | 443 c876-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman and I used to co-chair PACTS—I think he still does, but I do not—and I thank him ...; Lee Scott | 443 c878-9 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Member for Carshalton and Wallington (Tom Brake), who raised the issue of pedi...; Peter Bone | 443 c879 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend aware that in America 15 mph limits are flashed up at the beginning and end of the...; Lee Scott | 443 c879-80 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a valid point, but I am afraid that I disagree. The permanent enforcement of lo...; Tom Harris | 443 c881 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right. That is where the role of local authorities is crucial. There is no poi...; Lord Bellingham | 443 c881 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is speaking a great deal of sense about road humps. I agree that the people who c...; Alison Seabeck | 443 c881-2 (Link to this contribution) There is clearly not a standardised road hump anywhere in the country. Plymouth city council has jus...; Tom Harris | 443 c881 (Link to this contribution) I understand what the hon. Gentleman is saying, although I would be more cautious. I would suggest t...; Tom Harris | 443 c875 (Link to this contribution) I rise simply to put it on the record that not every Scot is opposed to the scrapping of Greenwich m...; David Kidney | 443 c875 (Link to this contribution) Road safety is a policy area that has benefited immeasurably from cross-party consensus for many yea...; Greg Knight | 443 c874 (Link to this contribution) I guess that I asked for that. Okay, I give way.; Angus Brendan MacNeil | 443 c874 (Link to this contribution) As one of the handful of Scots to whom the right hon. Gentleman alludes, I in part agree with him. I...; Greg Knight | 443 c872-4 (Link to this contribution) I do agree. I hope that in addition, the hon. Lady will agree with me that to have a 20 mph speed li...; Peter Bottomley | 443 c876 (Link to this contribution) I was not here for the opening of the debate because I was attending a Commonwealth Parliamentary As...; David Kidney | 443 c875-6 (Link to this contribution) That is a generous offer, but I suspect that it will not be decided by this Bill. I urge the Governm...; Angus Brendan MacNeil | 443 c875 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps we could have a compromise, with the clocks being changed back to Greenwich mean time a mont...; David Kidney | 443 c875 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that point. The right hon. Member for East Yorkshire gave diffe...; Tom Brake | 443 c868 (Link to this contribution) The proposal would of course apply only to new applicants, not to people such as the right hon. Gent...; Greg Knight | 443 c868-9 (Link to this contribution) I realise that, but my point was that with time people who have taken their test become mature drive...; Lord Bellingham | 443 c868 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for giving way, because he is one the leading experts on this ...; Greg Knight | 443 c866-8 (Link to this contribution) We can all support the aims of the Road Safety Bill, because safety should be paramount on our roads...; Alison Seabeck | 443 c868 (Link to this contribution) As a former lifeguard who has gone through all the training—although I have used my skills only outs...; Greg Knight | 443 c868 (Link to this contribution) I share my hon. Friend’s hope that the Bill, particularly the clauses that relate to the exchange of...; Lord Grayling | 443 c859 (Link to this contribution) I understand the hon. Gentleman’s difficulty this afternoon—he does not know whether he has been res...; Tom Brake | 443 c859 (Link to this contribution) It will be interesting to see the Transport Committee recommendations, which I am sure that the Mini...; Tom Brake | 443 c859-61 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that when the hon. Gentleman looks back at Hansard he will see that I have clearly set out...; Greg Knight | 443 c868 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady and I do not disagree on this point. If we were to have a free vote now, I think that ...; Greg Knight | 443 c871-2 (Link to this contribution) I am talking about flexible speed limits, not a permanent increase in the speed limit. I use the wor...; Sian C James | 443 c872 (Link to this contribution) In Wales we have successfully trialled the 20 mph speed outside schools. I am currently campaigning ...; Tom Harris | 443 c871 (Link to this contribution) Is the right hon. Gentleman aware of a single country in the world that has raised its national spee...; Greg Knight | 443 c871 (Link to this contribution) There is no doubt that during the period of flexibility many motorists would exceed 80 mph, just as ...; Tom Brake | 443 c871 (Link to this contribution) I thank the right hon. Gentleman for giving way a third time. What does he think would be the averag...; Greg Knight | 443 c870-1 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the Minister. His intervention will have put many minds at rest. I have one m...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c870 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman was kind enough to give me advance notice that he was thinking of raising t...; Greg Knight | 443 c870 (Link to this contribution) If the Minister wants to answer me now, I shall be delighted to give way.; Greg Knight | 443 c869-70 (Link to this contribution) The argument of contributory negligence could certainly be used in that example and many others, whi...; Tom Brake | 443 c869 (Link to this contribution) If the highway code were changed in that way, is the right hon. Gentleman aware that there would be ...; Sally Keeble | 443 c847 (Link to this contribution) Can the hon. Gentleman expand his argument? I introduced a private Member’s Bill that dealt with pen...; Sally Keeble | 443 c851-2 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to have a chance to contribute to the debate and to give an extremely warm welcome to ...; Lord Grayling | 443 c847-51 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Lady, as she has steered me towards the second part of my argument. I do n...; Sally Keeble | 443 c852-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that point. In working on my private Member’s Bill, I had to tal...; Tom Harris | 443 c852 (Link to this contribution) I share some of the concerns expressed by the hon. Member for Epsom and Ewell (Chris Grayling) in th...; Sally Keeble | 443 c854 (Link to this contribution) The offence would be on the statute book, but the penalties would be weaker and the magistrates cour...; Peter Bone | 443 c854 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is making a powerful speech. Does she accept that even with the Lords amendment, the n...; Sally Keeble | 443 c854-5 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree. The courts should have at their disposal a proper range of offences and penalties....; Lord Grayling | 443 c854 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady not accept, though, that we in the House have a duty not simply to send messages,...; Lord Harper | 443 c855 (Link to this contribution) If the law was changed as the hon. Lady hopes and the court had the power to impose tough sentences ...; David Kidney | 443 c859 (Link to this contribution) Far be it from me to explain what is in the Secretary of State’s mind, but the report was ““rubbish”...; Tom Brake | 443 c856-7 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps not surprisingly, I rise to support many of the measures in the Bill, as well as the Governm...; Sally Keeble | 443 c855-6 (Link to this contribution) I understand that, but I hope that we might develop, even as a rule of thumb at the roadside, an app...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c855 (Link to this contribution) I want to make sure that my hon. Friend realises that that test is used only to indicate to a police...; Sally Keeble | 443 c855 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a valid point. When there is an accident, it is often difficult for people ...; Tom Brake | 443 c858-9 (Link to this contribution) I am simply saying that one of the purposes of the Bill is to address the safe transport of radioact...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c858 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman referring to the case that we prosecuted and in which the offenders were found...; Tom Brake | 443 c857-8 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is entirely correct, but I am still worried about the message that is being...; Greg Knight | 443 c857 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman gave the example of a cyclist being hit by a speeding motorist. In those circumst...; Tom Brake | 443 c859 (Link to this contribution) From a sedentary position, the Secretary of State has said that the Bill addresses that matter, and ...; Paul Rowen | 443 c859 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has said that off-road bikes and small vehicles are difficult to deal with, but the mat...; Lord Grayling | 443 c843-4 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman puts his finger on a problem. The Government are always asking our local authorit...; Lord Grayling | 443 c842-3 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right to talk about the core group. If he bears with me, I shall come on to th...; Kelvin Hopkins | 443 c843 (Link to this contribution) I agree strongly with the hon. Gentleman. Does he agree that removal, confiscation and disposal of s...; Lord Grayling | 443 c843 (Link to this contribution) I very much agree and hope that Ministers, and all those serving on the Committee, will discuss that...; Tom Brake | 443 c843 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman regret, as I do, that the Home Office has withdrawn funding for a special sc...; Lord Grayling | 443 c841-2 (Link to this contribution) We welcome many aspects of the detail of the Bill. There are many things that divide us in the House...; Tom Harris | 443 c842 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the tone that the hon. Gentleman has struck so far, but will he confirm whether measures c...; Lord Grayling | 443 c842 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman tries to tempt me on to Conservative party policy making, which is something that...; Kelvin Hopkins | 443 c842 (Link to this contribution) I agree with much of what the hon. Gentleman has been saying so far. He talks about improving the Bi...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c841 (Link to this contribution) The appropriate time to consider the issue would be during the debates in Committee, which will prob...; Lord Grayling | 443 c847 (Link to this contribution) It is the principle of the word ““careless”” that is the problem. If the Government can define in de...; Lord McCabe | 443 c846-7 (Link to this contribution) I am following the hon. Gentleman’s argument with interest, but is not the case that he cited of som...; Lord Grayling | 443 c847 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that I simply do not agree with the hon. Gentleman. Sometimes on the road people make sn...; John Pugh | 443 c845 (Link to this contribution) : The hon. Gentleman may not be aware that the DVLA has a sophisticated database that enables it to ...; Sally Keeble | 443 c845 (Link to this contribution) It was a tragic case.; Lord Grayling | 443 c845 (Link to this contribution) Of course, and it needed to be prosecuted with the force of the law. Having read the case, a charge ...; Sally Keeble | 443 c844-5 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that a case like that of Levi Bleasdale, which was mentioned, would b...; Lord Grayling | 443 c845 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady misses the point. I am not talking purely about fatal accidents, but about minor accid...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c840 (Link to this contribution) I can perhaps cheer and disappoint my hon. Friend at the same time. We do not think that such legisl...; Lord Horam | 443 c840 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State mentions private hire vehicles in London. I suppose that he was referring to ...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c839 (Link to this contribution) I am not quite ready to commend the Bill to the House or to sit down: I am coming to the railway pro...; David Drew | 443 c840 (Link to this contribution) To go back to the previous point, it is necessary not only that HGV drivers should be able to see ot...; Greg Knight | 443 c841 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Secretary of State for that reply. Will he clarify his new ideas and thoughts o...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c839 (Link to this contribution) There are no such measures in the Bill, but we are working with other European Governments to deal w...; Greg Knight | 443 c839 (Link to this contribution) Before the Secretary of State commends the Bill to the House and sits down, will he say something ab...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c839 (Link to this contribution) That is not a debate that we need to have because I can give the hon. Gentleman that assurance. I re...; Philip Hollobone | 443 c839 (Link to this contribution) According to the Northamptonshire police, 70 per cent. of the traffic collisions on the M1 through t...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c829 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend that we have been very fortunate in Edinburgh. There have been no child ...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c828-9 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend’s first point is quite right. We are introducing new rules so that children under six...; Mark Lazarowicz | 443 c829 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the measures that my right hon. Friend has described, but may I raise the wider issue o...; Eric Martlew | 443 c828 (Link to this contribution) I realise that later this year the Government will introduce new laws on booster seats in the back o...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c827-8 (Link to this contribution) I am aware of that problem, which was raised with me on a recent visit to Nuneaton; it is a problem ...; Graham Stringer | 443 c827 (Link to this contribution) From my reading of the Bill, it seems to have been improved since the House last discussed it, but o...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c827 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. The House, or at least some Members of it, ...; Adam Price | 443 c831 (Link to this contribution) Taking a life is taking a life, but in this context, we are surely talking in some cases about momen...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c831-2 (Link to this contribution) Yes. A substantial body of case law in relation to that and other matters allows the court to hear t...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c830-1 (Link to this contribution) We will do that. I think it important for magistrates courts to have that disposal. As my hon. Frien...; Baroness Ussher | 443 c830 (Link to this contribution) I am very heartened by what my right hon. Friend is saying, as will be the family and friends of Lev...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c831 (Link to this contribution) I have sometimes been tempted to take the course myself but have not got there yet. I agree that the...; Andrew Miller | 443 c831 (Link to this contribution) As my right hon. Friend says, drivers need to be more aware of their own technical ability. Will he ...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c829 (Link to this contribution) I will, but then I must make some progress. Although this is a six-hour debate we are taking up a la...; Louise Ellman | 443 c829 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c829-30 (Link to this contribution) If my hon. Friend will allow me, I will deal with that point at the stage when I planned to deal wit...; Louise Ellman | 443 c829 (Link to this contribution) In the context of child casualties, and indeed other casualties, will my right hon. Friend think aga...; Andrew Selous | 443 c834 (Link to this contribution) Does the Secretary of State agree that we should all be equal under the law as far as speed cameras ...; Peter Bone | 443 c832 (Link to this contribution) Does the Secretary of State agree that the current situation is that if someone pleads guilty to car...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c834 (Link to this contribution) I will give way in a moment. There is probably a range of views in the House, but I yield to no one...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c833-4 (Link to this contribution) As I explained earlier, the position would not change as regards someone who was driving along and w...; Angus Brendan MacNeil | 443 c832-3 (Link to this contribution) On a point of clarification, if the right hon. Gentleman was driving in Edinburgh, for example, and ...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c832 (Link to this contribution) What to charge someone with is a matter entirely for the prosecutors in each case. It is not uncommo...; Brian Iddon | 443 c832 (Link to this contribution) In many cases, a driver who kills commits a multitude of offences, but the feeling among families of...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c832 (Link to this contribution) I will need to take some advice on that. The hon. Gentleman may be right but, in my view, when passi...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c834-5 (Link to this contribution) We have already dealt with that issue, so the amendment is not necessary. The hon. Gentleman will be...; John Pugh | 443 c835 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State make a comparison between normal speed cameras and the clever electronic...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c835 (Link to this contribution) I am with the hon. Gentleman on this. These signs, which are used more in villages and small towns t...; Kelvin Hopkins | 443 c835 (Link to this contribution) I agree with, and support very strongly, my right hon. Friend’s point of view on speed cameras, but ...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c835-6 (Link to this contribution) It is difficult to research something that has not yet happened. My own belief is that most people s...; Tom Harris | 443 c836 (Link to this contribution) In some areas, under the current system, drivers who speed at, for example, between 31 and 40 mph in...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c836 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that that will be so, unless the general policy changes on how such cases are pursued....; Alistair Carmichael | 443 c836 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c834 (Link to this contribution) I understand that the hon. Gentleman has raised this issue with the Minister of State, who has agree...; Paul Rowen | 443 c834 (Link to this contribution) The other place introduced an amendment on the use of income from speed cameras. What does the Secre...; David Kidney | 443 c837 (Link to this contribution) Has my right hon. Friend been convinced by the evidence that a lower drink-drive limit would save li...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c837 (Link to this contribution) My view is that we need to concentrate on those people who are breaking the law now. As my hon. Frie...; Sally Keeble | 443 c837 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend also acknowledge the very real problem of driving under the influence of d...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c837 (Link to this contribution) I agree that driving under the influence of anything that impairs judgment—drugs are the obvious exa...; Lord Grayling | 443 c838 (Link to this contribution) One of the concerns expressed in the Lords was the potential link between the replacement of paper d...; Kelvin Hopkins | 443 c837-8 (Link to this contribution) I am still concerned by my right hon. Friend’s view that we should not reduce the permitted level of...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c838 (Link to this contribution) The problem for much of continental Europe is that they have much higher rates of offending. They ha...; Alistair Carmichael | 443 c836 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Secretary of State for giving way. I am intrigued by his earlier example of som...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c836-7 (Link to this contribution) No. I think that I gave the example of someone driving at 66 mph in a 40 mph zone, and if I did not,...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c836 (Link to this contribution) Yes, but then I must make some progress.; Tom Harris | 443 c885 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that clarification. Finally, I come to mobile phone offences an...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c904 (Link to this contribution) Such devices will continue to be perfectly legal. I have one myself.; Owen Paterson | 443 c906 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that comment, but I am not sure whether the hon. Lady has answered my point. We ac...; Brian Iddon | 443 c861-6 (Link to this contribution) This week, my Select Committee—the Science and Technology Committee—is taking evidence in New York a...; Stephen Ladyman | 443 c847 (Link to this contribution) May I clarify something so that I can respond properly to the hon. Gentleman later? Is it the princi...; Lord Grayling | 443 c845-6 (Link to this contribution) That is an interesting idea, and I suggest that the hon. Gentleman include it in an amendment and di...; Tom Harris | 443 c882 (Link to this contribution) I may have given the impression earlier that I am some kind of expert on road humps and, if that is ...; Greg Knight | 443 c874 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that, and I shall answer his point in a moment. The Royal S...; Lord Darling of Roulanish | 443 c840-1 (Link to this contribution) I will certainly look at representations, but we are trying to ensure that anyone who drives people ...
Subjects: Children Death Casualties Cameras Cycling First aid Driving under influence Large goods vehicles Motor vehicles Mobile phones Registration Schools Safety Roads Road signs and markings Speed limits Road traffic offences Safety belts Summertime Sleep apnoea Driving licences
Legislation: Road Safety Bill (HL) 2005-06
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