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Opposition day on Tuesday, 30 November 2010, in the House of Commons, led by Andy Burnham. The answering member was Lord Gove.

School Sports Funding

Seventh opposition day debate (part one). Main question negatived on division (232 to 304).

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
519 c693-741 
Session
2010-12
Department
Department for Education
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 519 c717 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before I call anybody, I remind hon. Members that there is a six-minute limit. There are 27 s...
Andy Burnham | 519 c695 (Link to this contribution) I will accept a package that keeps the basic infrastructure in place and keeps school sports co-ordi...
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Andy Burnham | 519 c694 (Link to this contribution) What I will enjoy today is educating Conservative Members. When we came into government, we introduc...
Lord Gove | 519 c694 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman said that he would be happy to reduce central funding for the Youth Sport T...
Lord Gove | 519 c706 (Link to this contribution) As the right hon. Gentleman cannot answer the question, perhaps one of his hon. Friends might.
Lord Gove | 519 c708 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Lady for the fair point she makes. I chose to begin my remarks by making i...
Charlie Elphicke | 519 c709 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that the key issue is not whether we have one organisation or anothe...
Paul Maynard | 519 c712 (Link to this contribution) We have heard a lot from the Opposition about infrastructure, and my right hon. Friend has told us a...
Lord Gove | 519 c712-3 (Link to this contribution) It is important that we ensure that the very many Back Benchers who have not yet intervened but want...
Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 519 c721 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a very good point. If the Government cannot listen to the Opposition, perhaps t...
Justin Tomlinson | 519 c726-7 (Link to this contribution) People involved in the school sport partnership I saw were understandably extremely positive, as wer...
Roger Gale | 519 c715 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Lord Gove | 519 c709 (Link to this contribution) I should like to make a little progress. I know that the right hon. Member for Barking (Margaret Hod...
Lord Gove | 519 c709 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point. For me, the most important thing is outputs, not inputs.
Lord Barwell | 519 c710 (Link to this contribution) There seems to be a consensus that the quality across the country is variable. My right hon. Friend ...
Lord Gove | 519 c712 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a very good point. As we know, he is utterly committed to ensuring appropriate ...
Lord Gove | 519 c712 (Link to this contribution) I should like to give way to my hon. Friend first.
Lord Gove | 519 c712 (Link to this contribution) I am just answering my hon. Friend's point. I want to ensure that those schools get the support tha...
Lord Gove | 519 c711 (Link to this contribution) I have been generous in giving way, and I should like to give way to some of the gentleman and ladie...
Clive Efford | 519 c713 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
Lord Gove | 519 c713 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way at this stage. As well as a fall in the number of schools offering these sports...
Lord Gove | 519 c712 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a very good point.
Lord Gove | 519 c712 (Link to this contribution) I am very happy to give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Stroud (Neil Carmichael).
Neil Carmichael | 519 c712 (Link to this contribution) Does the Secretary of State agree that my children are much the same as others, in that they do not ...
Simon Danczuk | 519 c713 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
Lord Gove | 519 c713 (Link to this contribution) No—not at this stage. I was very generous in giving way earlier. It is also important that we look ...
Andrew Smith | 519 c722 (Link to this contribution) While the hon. Gentleman is not being polarising, and in the spirit of consensus that he says he esp...
Speaker | 519 c722 (Link to this contribution) Order. Interventions must be very short. The right hon. Gentleman should know better; he has been he...
Mary MacLeod | 519 c719 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that head teachers and staff have the capability and organisational skills...
Lord Gove | 519 c715 (Link to this contribution) I shall not give way. Our approach is to ensure that the money is devolved entirely to local authori...
Tobias Ellwood | 519 c695 (Link to this contribution) One thing that is understood by Government Members is that £2.4 billion has been thrown at this issu...
Andy Burnham | 519 c695 (Link to this contribution) They are astonishing achievements, particularly in an area such as the one my hon. Friend represents...
Andy Burnham | 519 c696 (Link to this contribution) It is an absolute disgrace for people such as the hon. Gentleman to stand up in the House today and ...
Speaker | 519 c695 (Link to this contribution) Order. [Interruption.] Order. When I stand up and say order, I expect every Member of the House to s...
Lord Gove | 519 c695 (Link to this contribution) Proportionate? Is that proportion a half, a third, 75% or 60%? Until we have clarity from the right ...
Andy Burnham | 519 c694-5 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman was not listening. I said that I would have accepted a reduction in funding...
Karen Buck | 519 c695 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend was very supportive of me in his previous incarnation at the Department for Cul...
Derek Twigg | 519 c696 (Link to this contribution) On disability sport in schools, my constituent Mark Eccleston is a full-time wheelchair user and a P...
Speaker | 519 c696 (Link to this contribution) Order. That was verging on a speech. May I remind Members that interventions are supposed to be brie...
Andrew Bridgen | 519 c694 (Link to this contribution) Did not the Labour Government have a record of selling off playing fields? Any mention of that is a ...
Andy Burnham | 519 c693 (Link to this contribution) I had the great misfortune to be in a Merseyside comprehensive under Maggie, and I remember after-sc...
Jim Cunningham | 519 c693 (Link to this contribution) Should we not remind the House that the Government's proposals are nothing new for them? In the 1980...
Andy Burnham | 519 c693 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House congratulates the Youth Sport Trust on achieving major advances in yo...
Dennis Skinner | 519 c694 (Link to this contribution) On the question of selling off playing fields, does my right hon. Friend recall from his youth that ...
Andy Burnham | 519 c694 (Link to this contribution) I noticed that when my hon. Friend made that impassioned contribution coalition Members laughed, bec...
Bob Russell | 519 c702 (Link to this contribution) If the shadow Secretary of State is seeking consensus, as I am sure he is, will he reflect on whethe...
Andy Burnham | 519 c703 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman spoke to those school sports co-ordinators, he will have found that they are p...
Andy Burnham | 519 c701 (Link to this contribution) That is a huge worry, and I would add to that the axing of the free swimming programme. That began i...
Chuka Umunna | 519 c701 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend has referred to the figure that I think the Prime Minister gave at Prime Minist...
Andy Burnham | 519 c701 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right, and may I refer him to Barrie Houlihan, professor of sport at Lo...
Bill Esterson | 519 c702 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend comment on the increase in the take-up of club sport by young people and t...
Andy Burnham | 519 c702 (Link to this contribution) Anyone who has dealt with sports policy knows that this has been the key issue we have been working ...
Andrew Murrison | 519 c702 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is right to laud club sport; it is very important and it largely happens ou...
Andy Burnham | 519 c702 (Link to this contribution) I reject that out of hand, because what happened was—[Interruption.] If Members will listen for a mo...
Clive Efford | 519 c706 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State has referred to the £162 million figure both in his letter to Sue Campbell ab...
Andy Burnham | 519 c703-5 (Link to this contribution) I have heard what the hon. Gentleman said and his comment that the partnerships have done excellent ...
Lord Gove | 519 c705 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the right hon. Member for Leigh (Andy Burnham) for making his case with characteris...
Andy Burnham | 519 c703 (Link to this contribution) I will give way one last time, then I will finish my remarks.
Andrew Percy | 519 c703 (Link to this contribution) I certainly think that school sport partnerships have done some excellent work in my area. I have sp...
Lord Gove | 519 c706 (Link to this contribution) I am always very grateful to sit down with the right hon. Gentleman, but he called this debate now. ...
Lord Gove | 519 c705-6 (Link to this contribution) I shall come to some of those interventions in a second. Every option that is proposed by the Oppos...
Andy Burnham | 519 c706 (Link to this contribution) If the right hon. Gentleman is prepared seriously to discuss retaining school sport partnerships, I ...
Lord Gove | 519 c708 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to give way to the hon. Gentleman, who is a former sports Minister.
Gerry Sutcliffe | 519 c708 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State talked about the national governing bodies. The infrastructure is the school ...
Lord Gove | 519 c708 (Link to this contribution) I am fortunate enough to have had a number of discussions with my hon. Friend the Member for Bath, a...
Lord Gove | 519 c706-7 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes his point very well. I am sensitive to the fact that teachers and head teac...
Lord Gove | 519 c707 (Link to this contribution) I am keen to make progress, but I shall be happy to give way to a number of hon. Gentlemen on both s...
Ben Bradshaw | 519 c707 (Link to this contribution) Does the Secretary of State recognise that the people he has just mentioned save schools time and mo...
Lord Gove | 519 c707-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to Kealey Sherwood for the commitment she shows. I am also grateful to the right hon. ...
David Winnick | 519 c706 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State bear in mind the adverse effect that his policy will have on a number of...
Lord Gove | 519 c706 (Link to this contribution) At the moment, we are looking to see exactly how much we can devote to sport, music, science, langua...
Andy Burnham | 519 c709 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is giving a lot of encouraging signs that he is prepared to look at the sys...
Lord Gove | 519 c709 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for that offer and I am always happy to work in a consensu...
Lord Gove | 519 c709 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to give way to the right hon. Gentleman. We are still waiting for the answer to the quest...
Angela C Smith | 519 c708-9 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman consider the comments of a teacher from Silkstone primary school in my...
Lord Gove | 519 c709 (Link to this contribution) I have enormous respect for the hon. Lady and the way that she makes her point. As I stressed earlie...
Joan Walley | 519 c708 (Link to this contribution) Is the Secretary of State not in danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater? In my school sp...
Lord Gove | 519 c708 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to the hon. Members for Stoke-on-Trent North (Joan Walley) and for Penistone and St...
Simon Danczuk | 519 c710 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Gove | 519 c710 (Link to this contribution) I am sharing some facts with the House. The data requirements for school sport partnerships are exe...
Lord Gove | 519 c711 (Link to this contribution) In a second. In the same way, we acknowledge that the Youth Sport Trust—Baroness Campbell, Steve Gr...
Lord Gove | 519 c711 (Link to this contribution) I am very happy to make way for the right hon. Member for Greenwich and Woolwich (Mr Raynsford). I d...
Lord Gove | 519 c710 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for making that point. It is important that we look at the existing ...
Nick Raynsford | 519 c711 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Secretary of State for giving way, because I will tell him of 70 simple facts t...
Lord Gove | 519 c711 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman once again reflects with passion the interests of his constituency, and as ...
Clive Efford | 519 c711 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Gove | 519 c713 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who makes a very good point. I am always disappointed when I go dow...
Bob Russell | 519 c713 (Link to this contribution) I am disappointed that the Secretary of State is now going down the route that I was trying to avoid...
Lord Gove | 519 c714-5 (Link to this contribution) Not the gentleman who forced down the price of Chelsea strips everywhere. That was not all he forced...
Lord Gove | 519 c714 (Link to this contribution) No, I shall not. I believe that the time is right to consider a different approach. We should liste...
Lord Gove | 519 c714 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way at this point. If some schools can offer every student an opportunity to take p...
Lord Gove | 519 c714 (Link to this contribution) No. I know that there are challenges that we all face, but after the commitment of £2.4 billion we ...
Lord Watts | 519 c697 (Link to this contribution) Is it not clear that Ministers have no idea about sport? Looking at them across the Chamber, I think...
Andy Burnham | 519 c697 (Link to this contribution) The Health Secretary was on the airwaves this morning saying that we need more sport played in schoo...
Baroness Hodge of Barking | 519 c697 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that what we are witnessing in the House today is either a complete ...
Andy Burnham | 519 c697 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. There is a formidable force lining up against the Government, an...
Lord Wilson of Sedgefield | 519 c696 (Link to this contribution) I have received dozens of letters from children in schools in my constituency who have benefited fro...
Andy Burnham | 519 c696 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has just made the very point that if we are going to provide high quality sport to ch...
Charlie Elphicke | 519 c698 (Link to this contribution) I represent a former coal mining constituency as well, and I have spent time with partnership develo...
Andy Burnham | 519 c698 (Link to this contribution) I would go a little further than my hon. Friend. As I shall explain, I believe that the Government a...
Clive Efford | 519 c697 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend recognise the statistics that the Government have quoted when making their...
Andy Burnham | 519 c697 (Link to this contribution) I shall turn to that issue in a moment.
Andy Burnham | 519 c698-700 (Link to this contribution) Thank you very much. I am glad that the right hon. Gentleman has been revising over the weekend. Wha...
Andy Burnham | 519 c700 (Link to this contribution) It certainly does. Such stories, much more than statistics, illustrate the success of what has been ...
Angela C Smith | 519 c700 (Link to this contribution) Jada Anderson is a young athlete in my constituency who was spotted by Jonathan Edwards and is train...
Andy Burnham | 519 c698 (Link to this contribution) May I politely refer the hon. Gentleman to the letter that head teachers sent to The Observer at the...
Andy Burnham | 519 c698 (Link to this contribution) I want to make some progress. I have mentioned the names of those who are lining up against the Gov...
Andy Burnham | 519 c701 (Link to this contribution) I could not agree more, and that is the basis of a good sports policy—not competition on its own, bu...
Kate Green | 519 c700 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree with Rachel Redmond, partnership development manager of the North Tr...
Chris Bryant | 519 c701 (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the work done by my right hon. Friend, particularly in respect of swimming. For man...
Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 519 c721-2 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way because I want to make a progress and this matter is important to my constituent...
Guy Opperman | 519 c722 (Link to this contribution) Very simply, your own Secretary—[Hon. Members: ““You?””] I apologise. Would you accept—[Interruption...
Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 519 c722 (Link to this contribution) As my right hon. Friend the Member for Leigh (Andy Burnham) indicated, if the Secretary of State wou...
Lord Foster of Bath | 519 c722 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Colchester (Bob Russell) feels as strongly as I do that we need to fin...
Lord Foster of Bath | 519 c722 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to the right hon. Gentleman before I talk about the positives.
Lord Foster of Bath | 519 c722-3 (Link to this contribution) The answer to the right hon. Gentleman is, broadly, yes, as I will say in my conclusion. If I wante...
Stella Creasy | 519 c723 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman mentioned the UK games for young people. Who will organise the UK schools Olympic...
Lord Gove | 519 c717 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that I cannot give way. I hope that the debate will be respectful of the facts. I hope ...
Graham Stuart | 519 c718-9 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to take part in this debate, which opened with a funny and high-quality speech from...
Roger Godsiff | 519 c717-8 (Link to this contribution) I will try to be brief, Mr Deputy Speaker, charitable to the Government and constructive. I do not ...
Lord Wilson of Sedgefield | 519 c721 (Link to this contribution) As I said earlier, I have received dozens of letters from children in my constituency who are concer...
Graham Stuart | 519 c720 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a powerful point, and like the Secretary of State, I believe in trusting front-...
Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 519 c720-1 (Link to this contribution) How ironic that a debate on cuts to school sport should follow the Health Secretary's statement on p...
Sarah Newton | 519 c727 (Link to this contribution) I want to associate myself with my hon. Friend's positive comments, because based in my constituency...
Speaker | 519 c727 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am sorry, but interventions have to be very short. A lot of hon. Members want to speak. If ...
Justin Tomlinson | 519 c727 (Link to this contribution) I fully agree with my hon. Friend's excellent intervention. In the 10 years I was a councillor, the ...
Jim Fitzpatrick | 519 c730 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. My right hon. Friend the Member for Leigh (Andy Burnham...
Annette Brooke | 519 c730-2 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the Secretary of State's listening mode, and I assure him that I appreciate the need to ev...
Baroness Keeley | 519 c727-8 (Link to this contribution) We are all enjoying the hon. Gentleman's contribution—it could be replicated around the House. My Sa...
Justin Tomlinson | 519 c728 (Link to this contribution) That is a kind intervention. However, I will finish my speech, and then the hon. Lady will see where...
Jim Fitzpatrick | 519 c729 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for North Swindon (Justin Tomlinson), who made some very ...
Craig Whittaker | 519 c729-30 (Link to this contribution) I agree that all Members of the House believe that sports in all parts of the UK create added value,...
Annette Brooke | 519 c724 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that it is also a matter of timing? Schools, rightly or wrongly, have grea...
Lord Foster of Bath | 519 c724 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right, which is why I have said that time is not on our side. People are being iss...
Lord Foster of Bath | 519 c723-4 (Link to this contribution) I will come to that very fair point at the end of my speech. The Secretary of State is right to poi...
Andrew Percy | 519 c726 (Link to this contribution) There have been positive experiences in this process, but it has been patchy. One deputy head teache...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 519 c725-6 (Link to this contribution) I agree, and it has been great to see smaller sports being experienced in schools, which has been ac...
Justin Tomlinson | 519 c726 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to speak in this debate on an issue in which I am very interested. I had many positive ...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 519 c725 (Link to this contribution) I agree, and that is the way forward—surely it is the big society that the Prime Minister keeps talk...
Angela C Smith | 519 c725 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend mentioned the range of sports now practised in schools. Some areas of the country are...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 519 c724-5 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bath (Mr Foster) who, at the fifty-ninth minute of th...
Julie Hilling | 519 c725 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend aware that year 5 pupils are involved in volunteering and starting to achieve qual...
Lord Gove | 519 c716-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful, Mr Deputy Speaker. I am quoting from The Daily Telegraph. The hon. Member for Vauxhal...
Lord Gove | 519 c715-6 (Link to this contribution) No, I shall not give way. It is critical that we recognise what a different approach might involve....
Speaker | 519 c716 (Link to this contribution) Order. The Secretary of State may not use the Member's name. I think that he is referring to the hon...
Lord Gove | 519 c716 (Link to this contribution) I shall not give way. We must acknowledge the reality regarding school playing fields. There cannot...
Roger Gale | 519 c715 (Link to this contribution) It is abundantly clear that some fairly murky bathwater has to be disposed of, and it is also plain ...
Lord Gove | 519 c715 (Link to this contribution) That is exactly our approach. Our approach is to ensure that the money is devolved—
Speaker | 519 c737 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the No Lobby.
Jessica Lee | 519 c736 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for giving way at this stage. Let me briefly echo his points. The co-o...
Tim Loughton | 519 c736-7 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. It is a mixed picture. The network of school sport partnerships did help s...
Annette Brooke | 519 c732 (Link to this contribution) I want to leave time for other speakers.
David Heyes | 519 c732 (Link to this contribution) I want to use my few minutes to tell the House what the decision means in my constituency, in Tamesi...
Alex Cunningham | 519 c732-3 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the lives of even some of the most disabled young people, such as the...
Tim Loughton | 519 c735-6 (Link to this contribution) We have had a very good, if truncated, debate, to which passionate and genuine contributions have be...
David Heyes | 519 c733 (Link to this contribution) What I am going on to say will prove my hon. Friend right. One of my constituents, Jade, is 13 year...
Emma Reynolds | 519 c733 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the Government do not seem to understand that it is in deprived areas...
David Heyes | 519 c733-4 (Link to this contribution) Indeed I do agree with my hon. Friend. Her comment applies equally to my constituency. The heads of...
Ivan Lewis | 519 c734-5 (Link to this contribution) This has been a timely debate on an issue of great importance for the future of our country. It is t...
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Finance Property transfer Pupils Playing fields Standards Sales Sports Take-up Olympic Games 2012 Youth Sport Trust Maintained schools
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