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Debate on bill on Monday, 11 December 2006, in the House of Commons, led by Lord Reid of Cardowan. The answering member was Lord Garnier.

Offender Management Bill

Offender Management Bill. Second reading debate. Agreed to on division (411 to 91). Programme motion for proceedings on committee, report and third reading agreed to on division (280 to 213). Money resolution agreed to on question (formal).

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
454 c583-690 
Session
2006-07
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Second reading
Procedure
Programme motions
Money resolutions
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c674-5 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who was at the conference. We are talking about opportunism of the ...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c675 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman did have the opportunity to wind up, but he did not take it.
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Mark Hunter | 454 c675 (Link to this contribution) We did not have the opportunity to wind up.
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c675 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman should calm down. The Liberal Democrat position is clear. They oppose the Bill fo...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c675 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that you will give advice to the Liberal Democrats, Mr. Speaker. They had the opportunity ...
David Howarth | 454 c675 (Link to this contribution) It is unfair of the Minister to imply that the Liberal Democrats had an opportunity to reply to the ...
Speaker | 454 c675-6 (Link to this contribution) I do not like to intervene in a debate, but as I have been asked to do so, I can reliably inform the...
David Heath | 454 c675 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. You will be aware that you have frequently advised us that it is n...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c676-7 (Link to this contribution) If I have made a mistake, I am happy to withdraw my comments. It is clear that we need to hear two o...
Humfrey Malins | 454 c681 (Link to this contribution) In my earlier contribution, I asked some serious and specific questions. I hope that, at some stage,...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c681-2 (Link to this contribution) I acknowledge the hon. Gentleman’s expertise. I intervened on him earlier, and I hope to deal with t...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c678 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point. What is important is success in driving down reoffending rates. T...
David Leslie Taylor | 454 c677-8 (Link to this contribution) Of course, the Minister is right. The whole House is united in the desire to see reoffending rates r...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c677 (Link to this contribution) I have a lot of respect for my hon. Friend, but on this occasion I think that he is way off the mark...
Austin Mitchell | 454 c677 (Link to this contribution) Much has been made of bringing in voluntary organisations such as the Prince’s Trust to take over pr...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c677 (Link to this contribution) As my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary pointed out, there is a different legal structure in Scot...
Michael Clapham | 454 c677 (Link to this contribution) Has the Minister examined the structure that has been applied in Scotland? What is his view on it? D...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c680-1 (Link to this contribution) I wish that my hon. Friend, who is usually a good listener, had listened to the Secretary of State a...
Paul Farrelly | 454 c680 (Link to this contribution) I have listened carefully to my hon. Friend and to everyone who contributed to the debate. Will he e...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c678-80 (Link to this contribution) No, that is not the case. What happened was that the inspectors reached an understanding and an acce...
David Heath | 454 c678 (Link to this contribution) Several times earlier in the debate, the Minister reassured his hon. Friends by saying that the Gove...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c674 (Link to this contribution) This has been a very useful debate in which many important points have been made. Public protection,...
James Brokenshire | 454 c672-3 (Link to this contribution) No, we certainly do not wish to scrap that scheme. It is interesting, however, that the Minister doe...
James Brokenshire | 454 c670-2 (Link to this contribution) It has certainly been another week to forget for the Home Office. In the past few days, the Governme...
Madeleine Moon | 454 c670 (Link to this contribution) I intend to address that point in a moment, if my hon. Friend will bear with me. The Bill aims to o...
Diane Abbott | 454 c669 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has waxed lyrical about the role of the voluntary sector, which nobody would decry. I...
Neil Gerrard | 454 c674 (Link to this contribution) As my hon. Friend knows, I was at the NAPO conference when the hon. and learned Member for Harboroug...
Lord Garnier | 454 c674 (Link to this contribution) The Minister needs to be a little careful, because he was not there. I was, and I remember precisely...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c674 (Link to this contribution) Talk about macho posturing. I was a little concerned earlier, at the opening of the debate, when the...
David TC Davies | 454 c620-1 (Link to this contribution) I am not quite as bad as I sound. I do accept those points, and I am glad that the hon. Lady has giv...
Elfyn Llwyd | 454 c621 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
David TC Davies | 454 c619-20 (Link to this contribution) Yes, that is exactly what I am doing, based on page 15 of Carter’s report, which states:"““Estimates...
Elfyn Llwyd | 454 c620 (Link to this contribution) May I direct the hon. Gentleman’s attention to what Carter concluded in 2003 in the ““Managing Offen...
David TC Davies | 454 c620 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, but that is not what Carter says on page 15, which I am looking at. I suggest the hon. G...
Kerry McCarthy | 454 c620 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman really saying that the only way to stop prolific offenders reoffending is to i...
Mike Wood (Batley and Spen) | 454 c619 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman really suggesting that we double the number of prison places?
Kerry McCarthy | 454 c628-31 (Link to this contribution) Many other speakers have talked in detail about the impact of this legislation on the probation serv...
Neil Gerrard | 454 c625-6 (Link to this contribution) Precisely. It does not bid for them because there are no profits to be made—that is what the private...
Nick Hurd | 454 c626-8 (Link to this contribution) One of the best and earliest decisions by the new Home Secretary was to scrap plans to reform Her Ma...
Neil Gerrard | 454 c624-5 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. We know from other services that continual reorganisation and restructuring...
Neil Gerrard | 454 c623-4 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his comments. As with the reoffending figures, we must be sure that we are ...
Nia Griffith | 454 c624 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend said that the probation service was reorganised only four years ago. Does he agree th...
Neil Gerrard | 454 c622-3 (Link to this contribution) Apart from the first part of the speech of the hon. Member for Monmouth (David T.C. Davies), whom I ...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c623 (Link to this contribution) I acknowledge my hon. Friend’s work as chair of the criminal justice unions parliamentary group in c...
Elfyn Llwyd | 454 c636 (Link to this contribution) Except that the adjusted figure is the same across probation and non-probation, which tends to answe...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c631 (Link to this contribution) When we talk of the voluntary sector, we talk of professionalism in that sector. While volunteers ar...
Kerry McCarthy | 454 c631-3 (Link to this contribution) It is not just that they are professional. Believe, for example, is run by a former Army officer wit...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c634 (Link to this contribution) I am listening intently to the hon. Gentleman’s comments. The probation trusts will not be made up o...
Barry Sheerman | 454 c635 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman will remember, shortly before then many of us criticised the former Administra...
Elfyn Llwyd | 454 c635 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree, and I shall come on to that point shortly. The current figure is just over 80,00...
David TC Davies | 454 c636 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not accept that even the adjusted figure is not correct? Such figures take i...
Kerry McCarthy | 454 c631 (Link to this contribution) Apparently it does not include all of them. Anyway, last week ““Society”” announced the ““public ser...
John Grogan | 454 c639-41 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the thoughtful, careful and expert analysis of the hon. Member for Meirio...
Derek Conway | 454 c641-2 (Link to this contribution) Before I commence my remarks, I apologise both to the Minister and to my colleague on the Opposition...
Barry Sheerman | 454 c637 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that when the Education and Skills Committee looked at prison educatio...
Elfyn Llwyd | 454 c637-8 (Link to this contribution) I agree entirely. I have discussed the issue with prison officers, educators and members of the prob...
David Howarth | 454 c644-6 (Link to this contribution) I certainly agree with some of what the hon. Member for Old Bexley and Sidcup (Derek Conway) said, p...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c646 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure about the basis of the hon. Gentleman’s argument. Is he arguing for the status quo? Is...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c642 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a fair point, which we want to reinforce. It has been said during the debat...
Derek Conway | 454 c642-4 (Link to this contribution) The Minister makes his point effectively and I am sure that many people will agree. Inevitably, we r...
Elfyn Llwyd | 454 c636-7 (Link to this contribution) I will refer to page 15 of the report, and I will also refer the hon. Gentleman to the conclusion; w...
David TC Davies | 454 c636 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is being very generous in giving way; I appreciate that. The report does say that...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c653 (Link to this contribution) I will deal with that in due course in the wind-ups.
Humfrey Malins | 454 c652-3 (Link to this contribution) I think that the answer is yes, because under section 177, one of the aspects of the community order...
Humfrey Malins | 454 c653 (Link to this contribution) The Minister says that he will deal with my point in due course. I am grateful to him—he is a courte...
Nia Griffith | 454 c650-1 (Link to this contribution) The important point is that the people working on the interventions are part of the same team and in...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c650 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will recognise that, within the probation service, there are different levels and gra...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c652 (Link to this contribution) I do not doubt the hon. Gentleman’s experience in this field for the reasons that he has told the Ho...
David Howarth | 454 c646-7 (Link to this contribution) I am saying that there is sufficient room for change within the legislative framework as it stands. ...
Mark Hendrick | 454 c647-50 (Link to this contribution) I rise to speak in the debate because my interest stems from my constituency, which contains a fairl...
Nia Griffith | 454 c650 (Link to this contribution) I do not wish to repeat many of the excellent points made by my hon. Friends the Members for Selby (...
Anne Snelgrove | 454 c659-60 (Link to this contribution) I was coming on to talk about fragmentation, and my hon. Friend is right that I was not a Member of ...
David Leslie Taylor | 454 c659 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that my hon. Friend was a Member of Parliament when the proposals for the 2001 reorga...
Anne Snelgrove | 454 c659 (Link to this contribution) Yes. Have I provoked my hon. Friend?
Anne Snelgrove | 454 c658-9 (Link to this contribution) Like the hon. Member for Woking (Mr. Malins), may I apologise, Madam Deputy Speaker, for not being h...
Peter Bottomley | 454 c655-7 (Link to this contribution) I was grateful for the opportunity to hear the Home Secretary introduce the Bill. I am concerned tha...
Lord Garnier | 454 c654 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend also concerned that intermittent custody, which was produced as the great answer t...
Humfrey Malins | 454 c654-5 (Link to this contribution) My hon. and learned Friend brings up yet another section of the 2003 Act. We could spend the whole e...
Lord Garnier | 454 c653 (Link to this contribution) As my hon. Friend and I are both recorders, I am sure that he will agree that the Judicial Studies B...
Humfrey Malins | 454 c653-4 (Link to this contribution) My hon. and learned Friend is correct: the complexities behind the different penalties are enormous,...
David Drew | 454 c664 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the hon. Gentleman says. I am certainly not reading out pre-prepared notes, and my promo...
David Heath | 454 c663-4 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the hon. Gentleman; he is coming to the most important part of his speech. Doe...
David Drew | 454 c664 (Link to this contribution) I cannot answer my hon. Friend, as I certainly have not found organisations keen to get involved in ...
David Leslie Taylor | 454 c664 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend travels in the south-west a great deal. During those travels, has he come across a la...
Diana Johnson | 454 c665-6 (Link to this contribution) I, too, apologise to the House for not having been present for the whole debate. I should like to m...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c660 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes the important point that it is the responsibility of the whole community to dea...
Anne Snelgrove | 454 c660-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that. It is indeed good news. I am glad to give some more good news: in t...
David Drew | 454 c662 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to follow my hon. Friend the Member for South Swindon (Anne Snelgrove), whose argumen...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c662 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for his kind remarks about my being a trier. He will have seen the briefing f...
David Drew | 454 c662-3 (Link to this contribution) I hear what my hon. Friend says. Statutory underpinning of what organisations can be asked to do mak...
David Leslie Taylor | 454 c669 (Link to this contribution) The Government have hung their hat on a heroic leap into the dark by asserting that opening the prob...
Madeleine Moon | 454 c669 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention; I was about to acknowledge that point, and to say that...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c668 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for giving way; I want to be consistent in dealing with the various themes. S...
Diana Johnson | 454 c666 (Link to this contribution) I take issue with the hon. Gentleman on that. I believe that the voluntary sector is not being used ...
Speaker | 454 c668 (Link to this contribution) Order. If the hon. Member for Cheadle (Mark Hunter) wishes to intervene, he knows the procedure to d...
Diana Johnson | 454 c668 (Link to this contribution) Thank you for that, Madam Deputy Speaker. I will finish on that point. There is nothing else that I...
Anne Snelgrove | 454 c666 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the best probation services in the country—such as mine and hers—are ...
Diana Johnson | 454 c666-7 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely; my hon. Friend makes that point very well. The debate being skewed into a discussion ab...
Anne Snelgrove | 454 c617 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for provoking me into making an intervention. I am listening to his enter...
David TC Davies | 454 c618 (Link to this contribution) I have no idea—the hon. Lady will have to ask my right hon. Friend. The last time that I hugged a ho...
David TC Davies | 454 c618 (Link to this contribution) Of course, I shall give way to my hon. Friend from Wales.
David TC Davies | 454 c617 (Link to this contribution) The judge who decides the sentence can already determine that it will not involve detention. If, how...
David Howarth | 454 c617 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman may be interested to hear the views of my old criminology teacher, who pointed ou...
David TC Davies | 454 c617 (Link to this contribution) Unfortunately, that is not true. Many criminals are caught, because they commit crimes so often that...
David TC Davies | 454 c617 (Link to this contribution) I cannot give way to everyone, so I shall give way to the hon. Member for South Swindon (Anne Snelgr...
David TC Davies | 454 c615-7 (Link to this contribution) Following on from the speech by the hon. Member for Batley and Spen (Mike Wood), as the Under-Secret...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c617 (Link to this contribution) All that we are proposing in the provision on children homes is the use of that facility for young o...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c594 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to the hon. Member for Colchester (Bob Russell), and then to my hon. Friends the Mem...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c595 (Link to this contribution) The simple fact that we are considering—and it is substantiated by all the evidence that we have—is ...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 454 c595 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary has twice used the word ““monopoly”” in relation to the professional performance ...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c594-5 (Link to this contribution) Of course we try to bear in mind all contributions, particularly—and most importantly, I would think...
Bob Russell | 454 c594 (Link to this contribution) Is the Home Secretary aware that, several years ago, the Select Committee on Home Affairs produced a...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c596 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to my right hon. Friend, but then I wish to make progress.
Madeleine Moon | 454 c595 (Link to this contribution) I endorse my right hon. Friend’s comments about the creativity and flexibility of the voluntary sect...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c595-6 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. I hope that my hon. Friend and other hon. Members will be reassured to learn that we do ...
George Howarth | 454 c596 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that there is growing evidence from the education field that former ...
Nick Palmer | 454 c592 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is persuading me that there is an issue to be dealt with and that we should giv...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c592 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Broxtowe (Dr. Palmer) and then I will make some mo...
Martin Salter | 454 c593 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c592-3 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that my speech is persuading some of my hon. Friends. This weekend some of the voluntary o...
Paul Farrelly | 454 c593 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c593 (Link to this contribution) Let me make a little progress. My hon. Friend the Member for Reading, West (Martin Salter) has been ...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 454 c593 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way on that point?
Martin Salter | 454 c593-4 (Link to this contribution) Does the Home Secretary accept that it is not what is written in Polly Toynbee’s column that worries...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c594 (Link to this contribution) If my hon. Friend is suggesting that the way to avoid having disturbances or problems in prisons, or...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c591 (Link to this contribution) That is one of the reasons we are trying to carry the Bill forward and institute some reforms. May ...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 454 c590 (Link to this contribution) Although many of us will have good examples of the probation service working—indeed, we have many pr...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c592 (Link to this contribution) We are concentrating our minds on that, for the very reason that the hon. Gentleman mentioned. The U...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c592 (Link to this contribution) Those were the explicit words of the right hon. Member for Witney (Mr. Cameron), the Leader of the O...
Bob Spink | 454 c592 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary is being very generous. I was wondering why I agreed so much with the statement t...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c591 (Link to this contribution) Before the hon. Gentleman intervenes, may I just say to him that"““Profound problems require politic...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c591 (Link to this contribution) I will try to make a little progress, but I will give way later. I accept that some of the measures...
Elfyn Llwyd | 454 c587 (Link to this contribution) I am obliged to the Home Secretary. Given what he said about contestability a few moments ago, will ...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c587 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to the hon. Gentleman who speaks for the Welsh nationalists, but then I want to make...
Martin Linton | 454 c589 (Link to this contribution) No one would deny that my right hon. Friend and his predecessors have invested very substantially in...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c589-90 (Link to this contribution) Of course I want the maximum support from our probation service and our probation officers. As I was...
Nick Hurd | 454 c590 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary has set the yardstick for judging the success of the Bill: a drop in the stubborn...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c590 (Link to this contribution) First, this is not just a matter of competition. It is a matter of allowing ourselves the assistance...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c587-8 (Link to this contribution) On the hon. Gentleman’s second question, the answer is that they do and sometimes very successfully....
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c588 (Link to this contribution) If I can make a little progress, I shall come back to hon. Members again later. I also have to make ...
David Lepper | 454 c589 (Link to this contribution) Does the Home Secretary agree that the kind of work that he has just outlined to deal with offenders...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c589 (Link to this contribution) I agree that much of such work is better commissioned locally, but that is not the question. The que...
John Bercow | 454 c585 (Link to this contribution) Pursuant to the question posed by my hon. Friend the Member for Banbury (Tony Baldry), may I put to ...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c586 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend insinuates that there is a mass of objections to the Bill—
David Leslie Taylor | 454 c586 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is right to say that this debate should be rooted in fact and evidence-based, t...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c586 (Link to this contribution) I recall that the hon. Gentleman has raised the matter before and, yes, I am open to that suggestion...
Peter Kilfoyle | 454 c587 (Link to this contribution) I noted what my right hon. Friend said about the various organisations that sing the praises of the ...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c587 (Link to this contribution) I will have to write to the hon. Gentleman with that information. On drug use in prison, my memory i...
Peter Bottomley | 454 c586 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary may not have the figures in front of him, but perhaps the Minister who winds up t...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c586 (Link to this contribution) Well, let me give him some of the quotations from the responses. The Association of Chief Executives...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c587 (Link to this contribution) On the Scottish model, first, I have no vote in what the Scots decide. Secondly, from time immemoria...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c584 (Link to this contribution) I am familiar with that case, which my hon. Friend has raised before. The relationship that has deve...
Andrew Miller | 454 c584 (Link to this contribution) Has my right hon. Friend had time to look at the work being done in Thorn Cross prison, in Cheshire,...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c584-5 (Link to this contribution) I will come to the hon. and learned Gentleman’s first point—the assertion—in a moment. On the second...
Lord Garnier | 454 c584 (Link to this contribution) Some of the assertions that the Home Secretary has just made are matters of ““fact”” whose veracity ...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c585 (Link to this contribution) As we do in these debates, I am merely allowing the hon. and learned Gentleman the opportunity to su...
Lord Garnier | 454 c585 (Link to this contribution) If the Home Secretary wants me to make my Second Reading speech now, I am happy to do so. If he has ...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c585 (Link to this contribution) In the course of the debate, Mr. Speaker, the House will have noticed that not one of the facts I me...
Speaker | 454 c585 (Link to this contribution) Order. Please take your seat, Home Secretary. This is a debate. The right hon. Gentleman can put rhe...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c583-4 (Link to this contribution) I shall deal with the reoffending rate in a second, but—along with issues such as protecting the pub...
Tony Baldry | 454 c583 (Link to this contribution) Is it not a matter of concern, however, that some two thirds of prisoners reoffend? Should there not...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c583 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. Cutting crime, ensuring justice for victims...
Mike Wood (Batley and Spen) | 454 c613-5 (Link to this contribution) Just as the offer of Lemsip is not totally convincing, nor are the Minister’s reassurances to the pr...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c613 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate that my hon. Friend is struggling with a cold and I wish him a speedy recovery—I shall ...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c611 (Link to this contribution) I will not let hon. Members say that there is no support for the Bill. I hope that my hon. Friend ha...
Mike Wood (Batley and Spen) | 454 c611 (Link to this contribution) It is not true to say that those voluntary organisations are wholeheartedly in favour of these propo...
Mike Wood (Batley and Spen) | 454 c611 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can make some progress before my good friend the Minister interrupts me. As the debate pr...
Paul Farrelly | 454 c612 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that, in a system that is based on case management, the insertion of contr...
Mike Wood (Batley and Spen) | 454 c612-3 (Link to this contribution) I agree entirely with my hon. Friend. In fact, we are being offered the ending of the probation serv...
David TC Davies | 454 c611 (Link to this contribution) Extending the hon. Gentleman’s argument, turkeys do not vote for Christmas, so it is unlikely that t...
Mike Wood (Batley and Spen) | 454 c611-2 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an obvious point, but I hope that I can perhaps deal with it in more detail...
Nick Clegg | 454 c608-10 (Link to this contribution) I was not aware of those points, but the hon. and learned Gentleman makes an extremely helpful inter...
Lord Garnier | 454 c608 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman aware that the National Audit Office has pointed out that the Home Office does...
Mike Wood (Batley and Spen) | 454 c610 (Link to this contribution) This is an important debate, so I hope that my cold will not mean that most of what I say is unintel...
Austin Mitchell | 454 c606 (Link to this contribution) I would ask whether those organisations should be allowed to use their expertise on such a scale as ...
Nick Clegg | 454 c606-7 (Link to this contribution) I shall start with the aspects on which we all agree. We all agree that the high levels of reoffendi...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c607 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman happy that the present arrangements for resettlement are working well?
Nick Clegg | 454 c607-8 (Link to this contribution) No, of course not, but the private and voluntary sectors are already involved in those activities, a...
David TC Davies | 454 c605 (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to take the Government’s side on this point, but the effect of the legislation would be t...
Austin Mitchell | 454 c605-6 (Link to this contribution) If that is an example of the kind of poppycock that the Conservative party is thinking, I am happy f...
Austin Mitchell | 454 c604-5 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend. I only wish I had been able to include a list of services wh...
Paul Farrelly | 454 c603-4 (Link to this contribution) We all share the Home Secretary’s concern to improve reoffending rates, but does my hon. Friend shar...
Austin Mitchell | 454 c602-3 (Link to this contribution) It will be difficult to follow the farrago of nonsense that we have just heard; it is difficult even...
Lord Garnier | 454 c600-2 (Link to this contribution) No. I was discussing the Labour party’s principles, to which I do not adhere, but I salute the hon. ...
Lord Garnier | 454 c598-9 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I do. In early 2005, the Government introduced in another place a Bill that bore many similari...
Neil Gerrard | 454 c599 (Link to this contribution) I am interested that the hon. and learned Gentleman is considering the principles of privatisation. ...
Lord Garnier | 454 c597-8 (Link to this contribution) I begin by expressing my apologies on behalf of my right hon. Friend the Member for Haltemprice and ...
Bob Spink | 454 c598 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. and learned Friend agree that one of the more sustainable solutions to recidivism would...
Speaker | 454 c597 (Link to this contribution) Order. I should inform the House that Mr. Speaker has not selected the reasoned amendment in the nam...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c672 (Link to this contribution) So that the House has it right, are the Conservative Opposition saying that they are against home de...
Elfyn Llwyd | 454 c634-5 (Link to this contribution) I accept what the Minister says, but my understanding is that it will no longer be necessary for sen...
Madeleine Moon | 454 c668 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for not being present throughout the debate, although I was here at the beginning. I ha...
David TC Davies | 454 c621-2 (Link to this contribution) I will clarify my remarks. Sweeney could be out in six years; he could serve a maximum of 12. Either...
David TC Davies | 454 c618-9 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has far more legal experience than me. As a practising barrister, he will know th...
Mark Hunter | 454 c666 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that, having listened to so much of the debate so far, the hon. Lady accepts that no Membe...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c593 (Link to this contribution) I will, if my hon. Friend lets me make a little progress, but I have two hon. Members lined up to in...
Bob Spink | 454 c591 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
Elfyn Llwyd | 454 c618 (Link to this contribution) I think that this is a thoroughly bad Bill, but I disagree with the hon. Gentleman about clause 25. ...
Elfyn Llwyd | 454 c633-4 (Link to this contribution) I do not welcome the Bill at all, but I do welcome much of what the hon. Member for Bristol, East (K...
Humfrey Malins | 454 c651-2 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Minister and the House for missing a great deal of the d...
Gerry Sutcliffe | 454 c606 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend should not run away with the idea that the Bill is about privatisation. Does he hones...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 454 c596-7 (Link to this contribution) I am familiar with some of those courses as a constituency MP and as Armed Forces Minister and Secre...
Madeleine Moon | 454 c669 (Link to this contribution) I assume that the requirement will be built into contracts and that the Government will closely moni...
Subjects
Contracts Accountability Charities Education Drugs Offenders Private sector Protection Prisoners Prisons Public sector Staff Probation Monopolies Prisoner escorts Rehabilitation Voluntary organisations Training Safety Reoffenders Probation boards
Legislation
Offender Management Bill 2006-07
Link
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