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Debate on bill on Tuesday, 20 February 2007, in the House of Commons, led by John Healey. The answering member was Mark Francois.

Planning-gain Supplement (Preparations) Bill

Planning-gain Supplement Bill (Preparations) Bill. Programme motion (No 2) on proceedings on Report and in Third Reading. Agreed to on question. Report stage. New Clause 1 debated and withdrawn. Amendment to Clause 1 debated and negatived on division. Third reading debate. Agreed to on division (275 votes to 198) and Bill passed.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
457 c156-208 
Session
2006-07
Department
Treasury
Legislative stage
Third reading
Report stage
Procedure
Programme motions
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Mark Francois | 457 c157 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time. The new clause is designed to delay the Bill’...
Mark Francois | 457 c158 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend. I return the compliment by saying that he has long been recognised as a...
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John Bercow | 457 c157 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that my hon. Friend is pursuing the matter like a dog with a bone. He is certainly a feroc...
Lord Deben | 457 c158 (Link to this contribution) I have read the Committee proceedings carefully, but I have not yet heard a commitment from the Gove...
Phyllis Starkey | 457 c158 (Link to this contribution) My grasp of geography is not good, but even I know that Aylesbury is not in Scotland.
Mark Francois | 457 c158 (Link to this contribution) I understand the hon. Lady’s point, which was also made in the Select Committee’s report. Let me mak...
Phyllis Starkey | 457 c158 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman knows that the Select Committee on Communities and Local Government were concerne...
Mark Francois | 457 c158 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend, with his experience as a former Secretary of State for the Environment, makes ...
Lord Redwood | 457 c159 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend think that the provision will apply to either Scotland or England? I understand ...
Mark Francois | 457 c159 (Link to this contribution) You are right to call us to order, Mr. Speaker, but it is a pleasure to bring a smile to the hon. La...
Mark Francois | 457 c158 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Lady’s geography were that bad—
Mark Francois | 457 c159 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend has obviously had a peek at my speech. If he allows me to develop my theme, he ...
Lord Deben | 457 c170 (Link to this contribution) I beg your pardon, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I was led astray by the Financial Secretary, who seemed not t...
Lord Deben | 457 c170 (Link to this contribution) That is exactly the point that I am making: this is a paving Bill in which the size of the pavement ...
Speaker | 457 c170 (Link to this contribution) Order. The right hon. Gentleman must speak directly to the new clause. The Third Reading debate will...
Lord Deben | 457 c167 (Link to this contribution) It is important that we debate the new clause, not only because of its specific application to Scotl...
Stewart Hosie | 457 c167 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman speaks about the fundamental awkwardness in terms of devolution. Is not the...
Vincent Cable | 457 c166 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak briefly in support of the new clause that the hon. Member for Rayleigh (Mr. Francois) ...
Lord Deben | 457 c168-70 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady may have misheard me, but I said that most people disliked development. I declare an i...
John Healey | 457 c170 (Link to this contribution) Has the right hon. Gentleman looked at the Bill and is he aware that it is a paving Bill? The matter...
Lord Deben | 457 c167-8 (Link to this contribution) I very much agree with that, but I put it to the hon. Gentleman that the problem has become even cle...
Phyllis Starkey | 457 c168 (Link to this contribution) May I point out to the right hon. Gentleman that some people are keen on development because their a...
Mark Field | 457 c160 (Link to this contribution) I know that my hon. Friend is not a partisan figure and would not wish to subject the Government to ...
Mark Field | 457 c160 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way briefly?
Mark Francois | 457 c160 (Link to this contribution) I will give way for as long as my hon. Friend requires.
Mark Lazarowicz | 457 c159 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, although I suspect that if he were to do his sums, he would dis...
Mark Francois | 457 c160 (Link to this contribution) I can confirm that the Labour-Liberal Democrat coalition that runs the Scottish Executive did not as...
Mark Francois | 457 c159 (Link to this contribution) I will gladly give way to the one Scottish Labour Back Bencher who is in the Chamber.
Lord Deben | 457 c159 (Link to this contribution) Has my hon. Friend noticed that although we are talking about Scotland, and although when we discuss...
Mark Francois | 457 c159 (Link to this contribution) I am not responsible for the diary commitments of Scottish Labour Members of Parliament, who are obv...
Mark Francois | 457 c159 (Link to this contribution) I see that my right hon. Friend the Member for Suffolk, Coastal (Mr. Gummer) wishes to detain me, an...
Mark Field | 457 c164 (Link to this contribution) If the idea is to ensure that windfall gains to developers are put into place, does the hon. Gentlem...
Mark Lazarowicz | 457 c164-5 (Link to this contribution) I think that if I were to answer that intervention in detail I would stray from the subject of the n...
Lord Redwood | 457 c165 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making an interesting case about the community sharing in the benefits. What l...
Mark Lazarowicz | 457 c165-6 (Link to this contribution) It is difficult to answer that point because, as has been suggested in the debate, the relationship ...
Mark Francois | 457 c161-2 (Link to this contribution) One of the concerns raised by the Scottish Executive in their response to the consultation was that ...
Lord Redwood | 457 c162 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend aware that when Ministers are asked why the supply of land will not dry up with th...
Mark Francois | 457 c162-3 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend pushes me on the rate, and perhaps we should push the Minister on that question...
Mark Lazarowicz | 457 c163-4 (Link to this contribution) As I said, I am glad to have the opportunity to express some concerns about the preparations that wi...
Stewart Hosie | 457 c161 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman mentions the Scottish Executive’s response, which contained concerns about the di...
John Healey | 457 c174 (Link to this contribution) This short, one-page, three-clause Bill is intended simply to ensure the propriety of Government exp...
Phyllis Starkey | 457 c171 (Link to this contribution) I simply draw the right hon. Gentleman’s attention to the fact that the evidence that I cited came f...
Lord Redwood | 457 c171-2 (Link to this contribution) I do not happen to agree with them and I do not think that the tax would work like that. It would ob...
Mark Field | 457 c172-3 (Link to this contribution) I shall not detain the House long as all the important points have been made, not least by my hon. F...
Robert Smith | 457 c173-4 (Link to this contribution) As one of those Scottish Members, I add my weight to the desire to vote on the new clause in an atte...
Phyllis Starkey | 457 c171 (Link to this contribution) Does not the right hon. Gentleman accept that there are some similarities between Scotland and the r...
Lord Redwood | 457 c171 (Link to this contribution) If I can finish my point, I will of course give the hon. Lady a chance to rescue her rather bad argu...
Phyllis Starkey | 457 c171 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Redwood | 457 c170-1 (Link to this contribution) The Government’s proposal needs to be checked and I support my hon. Friend the Member for Rayleigh (...
Stewart Hosie | 457 c175 (Link to this contribution) The Minister talks about the regularity and propriety of payments. This is just a paving Bill, but, ...
John Healey | 457 c175 (Link to this contribution) I am surprised by the hon. Gentleman, who is generally well informed on such issues. The simple answ...
Lord Redwood | 457 c175 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is an intelligent man, and he has studied the subject for a long time, so will he tell ...
John Healey | 457 c175 (Link to this contribution) We have been pretty consistent about that. Clearly, the results of the three consultations, which cl...
Robert Smith | 457 c174 (Link to this contribution) But if the House was unconvinced of the ideas in the Bill for which we are paving the way, it would ...
John Healey | 457 c174 (Link to this contribution) All hon. Members will make up their own mind on the proposals before us, but I urge the hon. Gentlem...
John Healey | 457 c175 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend would probably accept that we as a Government generally have an open mind. I can give...
Mark Lazarowicz | 457 c175 (Link to this contribution) Planning is a devolved matter, but taxation other than local taxation is a reserved matter. I am qui...
John Healey | 457 c176 (Link to this contribution) First, I do not accept the hon. Gentleman’s description of this rather simple Bill. Secondly, the de...
Mark Field | 457 c175-6 (Link to this contribution) The objection surely is that it should not be for the Scottish Executive to dictate to local Scottis...
John Healey | 457 c177 (Link to this contribution) The legislation applies to Wales and Northern Ireland, and London is part of England, with regard to...
Mark Francois | 457 c177 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is summing up, but before he sits down will he say whether, as part of this detailed ex...
John Healey | 457 c177 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman’s argument cuts in exactly the opposite direction. The House has been reaso...
Vincent Cable | 457 c177 (Link to this contribution) Do the devolved areas to which the Minister refers in the context of the interaction between revenue...
John Healey | 457 c176 (Link to this contribution) If policy on planning in Scotland is not a matter for me as a UK Minister, clearly the conduct and o...
Lord Deben | 457 c176 (Link to this contribution) Would it not help the Government enormously if the preparations for IT and the like were held up, gi...
John Healey | 457 c177-8 (Link to this contribution) The operation of planning legislation in Scotland is clearly a matter for local authorities in Scotl...
Stewart Hosie | 457 c177 (Link to this contribution) May I take the Minister back to the discussions with devolved Administrations? He is right that plan...
John Healey | 457 c177 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has asked that question a number of times. It would be part and parcel of any dec...
John Healey | 457 c178 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has only fairly recently come into the Chamber, but of course I will give way. He...
Brian Binley | 457 c178 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is very kind. I thank him very much. The possible levy to be applied has already been ...
John Healey | 457 c178-9 (Link to this contribution) A planning gain supplement levied at a modest rate that nevertheless raised additional revenue to su...
Mark Francois | 457 c179-80 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to be joined on the Front Bench by my hon. Friend the shadow Secretary of State for Sco...
Mark Francois | 457 c180-3 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 3, in page 1, line 10 at end add— ‘(4) No expenditure shall be incurred...
Phyllis Starkey | 457 c183 (Link to this contribution) May I draw the hon. Gentleman’s attention to items that he left out of his list of things that are h...
Mark Francois | 457 c183 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Lady well knows, the provision of affordable housing has gone down quite a lot under thi...
Speaker | 457 c183 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before the hon. Gentleman responds, I remind him that we are not conducting a general debate ...
Nick Raynsford | 457 c183 (Link to this contribution) I would not want the hon. Gentleman to mislead the House by implying that there has been a reduction...
Mark Francois | 457 c183-4 (Link to this contribution) I understand that, Mr. Deputy Speaker, but if you will allow me, I have been accused of misleading t...
Speaker | 457 c185 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the Aye Lobby. The House having divided: Aye...
John Healey | 457 c189 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time. This Bill is a short, straightforward meas...
John Healey | 457 c184 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Member for Rayleigh (Mr. Francois) has made clear, the amendment is designed to insert a...
Mark Francois | 457 c184-5 (Link to this contribution) Our debate on amendment No. 3 has given the House an opportunity to press the Government on why they...
Lord Deben | 457 c190 (Link to this contribution) If the system is not to be populated by information, is it to be unpopulated? If so, how do we know ...
John Healey | 457 c190 (Link to this contribution) I did not say that it would not be populated by information. Clearly at some point any IT system wou...
Stewart Hosie | 457 c189-90 (Link to this contribution) Will the IT equipment and systems be populated with data during this phase, and if so, will they inc...
John Healey | 457 c190 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman races ahead of the point that we have reached in speculative work on how a system...
Mark Francois | 457 c190 (Link to this contribution) The Financial Secretary has cited several paving Bills. Can he tell us, as an example, how much has ...
Phyllis Starkey | 457 c200 (Link to this contribution) I seem to recall it being mentioned earlier that there was a paving Bill to enable us to join the Eu...
Vincent Cable | 457 c200 (Link to this contribution) It is a privilege, as it was on Second Reading, to follow the right hon. Member for Greenwich and Wo...
Phyllis Starkey | 457 c203-5 (Link to this contribution) As the House knows, the Communities and Local Government Committee carried out an investigation on t...
Vincent Cable | 457 c200-3 (Link to this contribution) Well, I am not sure that the juggernaut has entirely ground to a halt, because I still sit on the Ch...
Mark Francois | 457 c191-5 (Link to this contribution) We now come to the Third Reading of this paving Bill, which is designed to help implement a planning...
Nick Raynsford | 457 c199-200 (Link to this contribution) I agree wholeheartedly. I was not recommending that the roof tax be applied generally. As my hon. Fr...
Phyllis Starkey | 457 c198-9 (Link to this contribution) Obviously I am a great admirer of the tariff in Milton Keynes, but my right hon. Friend will be awar...
John Healey | 457 c191 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to take your guidance on that point, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The central question when consi...
Speaker | 457 c190 (Link to this contribution) Order. I really do not think that the Minister should be tempted too far down that route. I shall al...
Nick Raynsford | 457 c195-8 (Link to this contribution) I have to tell my hon. Friend the Financial Secretary that the reservations that I voiced on Second ...
Mark Francois | 457 c160-1 (Link to this contribution) We have already heard a number of references to history this afternoon, and my hon. Friend has provi...
Lord Redwood | 457 c171 (Link to this contribution) It is perfectly possible for developers and councils to get together and organise such developments ...
Mark Lazarowicz | 457 c176 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend. He is being generous, and I am sure he appreciates that this is an ...
Speaker | 457 c159 (Link to this contribution) Order. I know a bit about the geography of Scotland, and I know that Aylesbury is not there. We are ...
Subjects
Devolved matters Capital gains tax Housing Land ICT Infrastructure Government departments Local government Northern Ireland Planning permission Planning Public expenditure Property development Scotland Valuation Taxation Tax rates and bands Revenue and Customs Department for Communities and Local Government Planning gain supplement
Legislation
Planning-gain Supplement (Preparations) Bill 2006-07
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