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Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 25 June 2008, in the House of Lords.

Energy Bill

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702 c615-72GC 
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2007-08
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Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Bach | 702 c654GC (Link to this contribution) Given what I understand to be the name of the company, I am not the slightest bit surprised that the...
Lord Bach | 702 c654-5GC (Link to this contribution) Of course not. I understand that. It was a potential major supplier. I was talking about what inves...
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Lord Bach | 702 c659GC (Link to this contribution) I am also listening to the noble Baroness.
Lord Redesdale | 702 c666GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister. I hope that his department will write so that we can digest the information ov...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c620-1GC (Link to this contribution) I take up the point of the noble Lord, Lord O’Neill. It is all very well for the Government to say, ...
Lord Oxburgh | 702 c652GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for her concern. I had to return from the Far East for these two days of ...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c638GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord asks a number of questions, but the real issue is that we are so far from achieving e...
Bishop of Chester | 702 c637GC (Link to this contribution) I strongly support the amendment for the reason given, and another in the area of cultural change. I...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c653GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the Minister misunderstood. I thought that it was a fundamental objective of government poli...
Lord Bach | 702 c653GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend, as I am sure is the noble Lord, Lord De Mauley. Our reading of the...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c654GC (Link to this contribution) If it is any help, it was not the company that I was referring to when I spoke to an earlier amendme...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c657GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 60: 60: Before Clause 80, insert the following new Clause— ““Provision for gre...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c657GC (Link to this contribution) He should not take lightly the direct threat that this will be taken to a vote at the next stage. Th...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c657-8GC (Link to this contribution) I support a greenhouse gas emissions performance standard. This side of the Committee has often said...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c659GC (Link to this contribution) I am sure the Minister will be quick to point out some problems with the drafting, but we hope that ...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c662GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his fulsome reply, and the noble Baroness, Lady Wilcox, for her erudite exp...
Lord Bach | 702 c666GC (Link to this contribution) The Scottish equivalent of the Environment Agency is producing a report later this year, dealing wit...
Lord Bach | 702 c664-6GC (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the noble Baroness, whose remarks have taken me completely by surprise. As it ...
Lord Teverson | 702 c666-7GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 63A: 63A: Before Clause 80, insert the following new Clause— ““Electrical supp...
Lord Bach | 702 c667-8GC (Link to this contribution) I am delighted that the noble Lord, Lord Teverson, is in favour of the EU ETS scheme, which I am sur...
Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 702 c619-20GC (Link to this contribution) It is important that any legislation on energy should be tested for energy efficiency, but the Long ...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 702 c619GC (Link to this contribution) I support this amendment. It is the other side of what we have been discussing. We have got to chang...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 702 c625-6GC (Link to this contribution) My noble friend will reply to her amendment in a moment, but she is trying to find a way to help the...
Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 702 c627GC (Link to this contribution) I shall reply to that, if I may, and say simply that there are still many opportunities for appropri...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c627-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 57: 57: Before Clause 80, insert the following new Clause— ““Information on co...
Lord Colwyn | 702 c615GC (Link to this contribution) I start with the usual announcement that if there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting,...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c615GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 55: 55: Before Clause 80, insert the following new Clause— ““Co-firing of biom...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c617-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 56: 56: Before Clause 80, insert the following new Clause— ““Energy usage in h...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c618-9GC (Link to this contribution) I commend the efforts of the noble Baroness to bring in energy efficiency. It was one of the issues ...
Lord De Mauley | 702 c648-9GC (Link to this contribution) I am aware that the regulator receives a blizzard of suggestions from all directions about how to do...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 702 c652GC (Link to this contribution) Surely the noble Lord, Lord Oxburgh, can say anything that he likes in Committee. The fact that he d...
Lord Oxburgh | 702 c652GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise for not waiting until the end of the Minister’s interesting reply. I would have liked to...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c641-2GC (Link to this contribution) We are involved in substantial consultations on the process by which we adjust the arrangements for ...
Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 702 c643GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps this is a convenient moment for a brief adjournment. The Committee will adjourn for 10 minut...
Lord Oxburgh | 702 c644-6GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Redesdale, for his kind comments, and I am grateful for his support. It...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c646-8GC (Link to this contribution) I add my gratitude to the noble Lord, Lord Redesdale, who said to me a few days ago that this amendm...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c633-4GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister; it looks as if things are going to be carried forward as we would like. I star...
Lord Oxburgh | 702 c639GC (Link to this contribution) I support the general drift of the amendment, particularly the aspects that seek clarity about the c...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 702 c630GC (Link to this contribution) This is probably one of the most important amendments, and I hope that the Government will take it s...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c632GC (Link to this contribution) That is where I got it from. I rang it up to check, and it said that that was the best figure it had...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c632GC (Link to this contribution) How many other consumers would think of going there to find that information?
Lord Bach | 702 c632GC (Link to this contribution) Rather more than the noble Lord might think, perhaps.
Lord Bach | 702 c653GC (Link to this contribution) I am interested that the noble Lord says that it is a fundamental change and defends it as such. He ...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c653GC (Link to this contribution) The Minister says that it will be a fundamental change, but I do not understand why that is a proble...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c654GC (Link to this contribution) I want to be quite clear about this. I do not want to mislead anyone. I asked the gentleman who has ...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c654GC (Link to this contribution) Would it alter the Minister’s view if I told him that the adviser with whom I have been working clos...
Lord Bach | 702 c654GC (Link to this contribution) We are talking now about the role of the regulator. We believe that the best way to get the result w...
Lord Puttnam | 702 c656GC (Link to this contribution) Purely to help the Minister—and I am certain that this will come back—I am afraid that he puts up a ...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c655-6GC (Link to this contribution) This is a slightly strange procedure because the amendment that has been moved will have to be withd...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c656GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his spirited defence of the Government’s position. He has obviously been to...
Lord Bach | 702 c659-62GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness and the noble Lord for speaking to this amendment. I note that t...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c662-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 63: 63: Before Clause 80, insert the following new Clause— ““Electricity from ...
Lord Bach | 702 c672GC (Link to this contribution) This may be a convenient moment—almost the exact moment—for the Committee to adjourn until Tuesday a...
Lord Teverson | 702 c672GC (Link to this contribution) That was even more positive than I had expected, so I thank the Minister for that. It will be an int...
Lord Bach | 702 c626GC (Link to this contribution) I say again that the proposal is unnecessary because the Digest of UK Energy Statistics is updated a...
Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 702 c625GC (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend for his reasoned response. I have two points. First, when we talk about repo...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c627GC (Link to this contribution) Please let me finish. That is fine; the Minister did respond to them. But if the noble Lord, Lord Wh...
Lord Teverson | 702 c626-7GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I could make one final comment. As my noble friend Lord Redesdale said, energy efficiency an...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c629-30GC (Link to this contribution) I have put my name to this amendment as I sought to move similar amendments during the passage of th...
Lord Colwyn | 702 c616GC (Link to this contribution) Would the right reverend Prelate care to stand to speak?
Bishop of Chester | 702 c616GC (Link to this contribution) When Drax said that it was intending to use 10 per cent of biomass, it accompanied that with an anno...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c616-7GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Members of the Committee who have contributed to this short debate. As has been...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c617GC (Link to this contribution) I am not sure about delight. It is certainly not euphoria. I am slightly disappointed with the Minis...
Lord Puttnam | 702 c648GC (Link to this contribution) I was delighted to add my name to the amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Oxburgh, and I share ...
Lord Bach | 702 c649-52GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Oxburgh, for speaking to his amendment. It is a serious amendment and h...
Lord Bach | 702 c653GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can finish off what I have to say and then my noble friend can speak. Is that satisfactory...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c640-1GC (Link to this contribution) On a point of clarity, I fail to understand what will change between now and the implementation of t...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c642GC (Link to this contribution) If everything were uniform, the right reverend Prelate would be absolutely right in his contention, ...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c642-3GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I should have continued my story. Due to the difficulty that I had, I introduced the Renewab...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c643-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 59: 59: Before Clause 80, insert the following new Clause— ““Duties of the reg...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c637-8GC (Link to this contribution) There is a great deal to be said for such an amendment or something along these lines. I am not sure...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c634-7GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 58: 58: Before Clause 80, insert the following new Clause— ““Access for renewa...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c640GC (Link to this contribution) I never got a specific mark for that question, but I struggled through the paper. I did not have any...
Lord Teverson | 702 c640GC (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister know the answer to the Schleswig-Holstein question?
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c639GC (Link to this contribution) I may have confused the noble Lord when I referred to the 18 per cent figure. The same applies if th...
Lord Bach | 702 c633GC (Link to this contribution) I remind the noble Duke that it is not my amendment. I am not sure what the noble Baroness intends; ...
Lord Bach | 702 c654GC (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that it would not make me change my view because how could one individual from however e...
Lord Bach | 702 c666GC (Link to this contribution) The meeting is due to be held in late July.
Lord Redesdale | 702 c666GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply in which he talked about feed-in tariffs, which is of great inter...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 702 c666GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is probably talking about England and Wales because he mentioned the Environment Agen...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c664GC (Link to this contribution) Following our further discussions on microgeneration and renewable energy tariffs, we knew that the ...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c667GC (Link to this contribution) I have been tabling Questions for Written Answer on what will happen to the proceeds of these auctio...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 702 c672GC (Link to this contribution) The Committee stands adjourned until Tuesday at 3.30 pm.
Lord Teverson | 702 c668-9GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply. As he probably realises, this amendment is drafted so that it do...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c668GC (Link to this contribution) I am sure that when I was Chief Secretary that is precisely what I did.
Lord Bach | 702 c671-2GC (Link to this contribution) As the noble Lord said, we have already had a good debate on some aspects of geothermal energy earli...
Lord Teverson | 702 c669-71GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 63B: 63B: Before Clause 80, insert the following new Clause— ““Heat from deep ...
Lord Bach | 702 c622-4GC (Link to this contribution) I thank Members of the Committee who have taken part in this debate. The noble Baroness, not for the...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 702 c621-2GC (Link to this contribution) During recent months, while recognising that we operate within a free market, I have been trying to ...
Lord Bach | 702 c625GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend. He says that he is not computer literate, but I would be grateful ...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c627GC (Link to this contribution) I thank everyone who has taken part in this exchange. I do not think that I have been selfish in hol...
Lord Bach | 702 c626GC (Link to this contribution) I will just finish this point. The noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, made it quite clear that he thought pric...
Lord Teverson | 702 c628-9GC (Link to this contribution) I welcome the amendment, partly because of some of the other aspects that it could represent. From t...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 702 c630GC (Link to this contribution) Two separate discussions are going on, although perhaps I have misunderstood. The noble Lord, Lord J...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c615-6GC (Link to this contribution) I have always had some doubt about trying to enforce this kind of minimum requirement in the use of ...
Lord Palmer | 702 c619GC (Link to this contribution) I, too, support this amendment. Part of this is a matter of education. This morning, all the blinds ...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c649GC (Link to this contribution) One of the issues that I get lobbied on regularly by the power companies is generating capacity, an ...
Lord Puttnam | 702 c653GC (Link to this contribution) I would like a moment to correct the record. The noble Lord, Lord De Mauley, can defend himself, but...
Bishop of Chester | 702 c642GC (Link to this contribution) On the question of possible limits in Scandinavia, there will obviously be limits to the level of ge...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c639-40GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Redesdale, for his amendment, which has prompted an interestin...
Lord Bach | 702 c630-2GC (Link to this contribution) Again, I thank noble Lords who have spoken to the amendment. This issue was indeed discussed in the ...
Duke of Montrose | 702 c633GC (Link to this contribution) The information is available on the Ofgem website. I ask my noble friend Lady Wilcox whether we are ...
Lord Bach | 702 c632-3GC (Link to this contribution) The result of the consultation was that people are more concerned than anything else about knowing t...
Subjects
Conservation Combined heat and power Consumption Carbon dioxide Biofuels Coal fired power stations Licensing Energy Electricity generation Ofgem EU emissions trading scheme Natural gas Prices Lighting Microgeneration Standards Renewable energy Taxation Carbon emissions Geothermal power Hydroelectric power Greenhouse gas emissions
Legislation
Energy Bill 2007-08
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