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Adjournment debate on Tuesday, 10 February 2009, in the House of Commons, led by Ian Gibson. The answering member was Sarah McCarthy-Fry.


Rose Report

Westminster Hall adjournment debate on the implications of the Rose Report.


Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
487 c341-65WH 
Session
2008-09
Department
Department for Children, Schools and Families
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
Proceeding contributions
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 487 c362-3WH (Link to this contribution) I go back to the point that I made earlier: this is an interim report that sets out the principle of...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 487 c363-4WH (Link to this contribution) The Communication Trust is taking on the consideration of the pilots we are doing in certain areas. ...
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Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 487 c363WH (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the hon. Gentleman is aware that the report by the hon. Member for Buckingham led to ...
Bob Spink | 487 c363WH (Link to this contribution) Has the Minister anything to say about bringing forward plans to make more speech therapists availab...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 487 c361-2WH (Link to this contribution) The QCA is indeed working on draft programmes of learning, but the emphasis is on ““draft””. With th...
Nick Gibb | 487 c362WH (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister let the hon. Member for Yeovil and me see a copy of those draft programmes of study...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 487 c361WH (Link to this contribution) A fundamental disagreement with the hon. Member for Bognor Regis and Littlehampton concerns the impo...
Nick Gibb | 487 c361WH (Link to this contribution) Is it true, as the hon. Member for Yeovil said, that the QCA is already working on the details on th...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 487 c362WH (Link to this contribution) They are still very much at an interim stage. I do not expect them to be at a stage where they could...
Nick Gibb | 487 c362WH (Link to this contribution) When the Minister addressed me, she said that how reading is taught is not an issue for this report ...
Nick Gibb | 487 c361WH (Link to this contribution) That is fine, but the consultation is taking place after the report has said that parents have a cer...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 487 c360-1WH (Link to this contribution) As I have said, we are not prescribing the amount of discrete teaching of English and maths. The ide...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 487 c361WH (Link to this contribution) I emphasise that the report is an interim one, and that consultation is ongoing. We expect wider int...
Nick Gibb | 487 c356-8WH (Link to this contribution) There should be flexibility in the curriculum. My concern is that the review will replace one set of...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 487 c358-9WH (Link to this contribution) Mr. Olner, it is a great pleasure to serve under your chairmanship. I congratulate my hon. Friend th...
Bob Spink | 487 c359WH (Link to this contribution) In their plan for a world-class education system, have the Government considered rebalancing the fun...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 487 c359-60WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will find that many local authorities are rebalancing their funding towards early...
David Laws | 487 c360WH (Link to this contribution) If the Rose recommendations are accepted, will there be more time for English and maths in the prima...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 487 c360WH (Link to this contribution) I was coming to that. The remit for the review emphasises the importance of literacy and numeracy, a...
David Laws | 487 c360WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for accelerating to that part of her speech, but I am still not clear ...
Nick Gibb | 487 c364WH (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady believe, notwithstanding what she has said, that in the reception class, children...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 487 c364WH (Link to this contribution) I want young people to be learning through any method that assists them to read. I know that the hon...
Nick Gibb | 487 c346WH (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman saying that learning multiplication tables by rote is a waste of time in prima...
Ian Gibson | 487 c345-6WH (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for making that intervention and I absolutely concur with it. There are ...
Bob Spink | 487 c345WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman talked about the skill of communication. We need more speech therapists and we ne...
Ian Gibson | 487 c344-5WH (Link to this contribution) Yes, I think there will be a slight contraction of that type of teaching. There is an argument that ...
David Laws | 487 c344WH (Link to this contribution) If the recommendations of the Rose report are accepted, does the hon. Gentleman expect that there wi...
Ian Gibson | 487 c343-4WH (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for attending the debate. Certainly, Sir Jim Rose has mentioned that issu...
Bob Spink | 487 c343WH (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that it is the quality of teachers, their enthusiasm and their inspir...
Bob Spink | 487 c345WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is being most generous in giving way. Does he agree that many of the one in five ...
Ian Gibson | 487 c345WH (Link to this contribution) I am not trying to say that there will be an absolute doing away with numeracy and literacy. I made ...
Nick Gibb | 487 c345WH (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman thinks that there will be a contraction in the amount of time spent on teachin...
David Leslie Taylor | 487 c342-3WH (Link to this contribution) All MPs visit schools. I visited one last Friday and spoke to the head, deputy head and chair of gov...
Ian Gibson | 487 c341-2WH (Link to this contribution) It is nice to serve under your tutelage once more, Mr. Olner. Many people will not know what the Ro...
Ian Gibson | 487 c343WH (Link to this contribution) I agree absolutely. There must be a serious challenge to SATs 2 and their effect on the morale of te...
Nick Gibb | 487 c354-6WH (Link to this contribution) And the Scottish kings and queens as well. I agree with the hon. Member for Yeovil (Mr. Laws) that ...
David Laws | 487 c356WH (Link to this contribution) I have sympathy with some of the hon. Gentleman's comments, but does he agree that many schools succ...
Ian Gibson | 487 c354WH (Link to this contribution) Also the Scottish kings and queens.
Nick Gibb | 487 c354WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Norwich, North (Dr. Gibson) on securing this important debate. I ...
David Laws | 487 c353-4WH (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman is saying that he wants the Government to provide for more flexibility and fre...
Ian Gibson | 487 c353WH (Link to this contribution) I am sure that we will have many arguments about data over coffee first thing in the morning, but do...
David Laws | 487 c353WH (Link to this contribution) Let me finish this point, because I may be being unfair to Rose and the hon. Gentleman may wish to d...
David Laws | 487 c351-3WH (Link to this contribution) I certainly agree that that is an important issue, and I shall go on to discuss it, because it is on...
Ian Gibson | 487 c351WH (Link to this contribution) In the hon. Gentleman's critique of Rose, does he include Rose's description of special educational ...
David Laws | 487 c350-1WH (Link to this contribution) No, I am not sure that Rose has done so. Although I entirely agree that, in some way, the biggest ch...
David Laws | 487 c350WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Norwich, North (Dr. Gibson) on giving us, I think, the first oppo...
Bob Spink | 487 c350WH (Link to this contribution) I am following the hon. Gentleman's argument carefully, but I am a little at a loss to understand hi...
Ian Gibson | 487 c349-50WH (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. My original comment about people being more worried about what bankers are saying to a S...
Nick Gibb | 487 c348WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman skipped over the fourth area of learning outlined in the Rose review—human, socia...
Ian Gibson | 487 c346-8WH (Link to this contribution) Again, I agree with my hon. Friend. We all agree that it is essential to have mathematics of some ki...
David Leslie Taylor | 487 c349WH (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend welcome the recognition in the interim report that we are seeing the emergence o...
Ian Gibson | 487 c348-9WH (Link to this contribution) No, they should not be moved. It is hard to deny young people the delights of seeing how previous ci...
Ian Gibson | 487 c346WH (Link to this contribution) No, I do not think that it is a waste of time; I was trying to say that we over-elaborate it—trying ...
David Leslie Taylor | 487 c346WH (Link to this contribution) In relation to my hon. Friend's last but one reply to the Opposition spokesman—the hon. Member for B...
Ian Gibson | 487 c346WH (Link to this contribution) It is important, but overdoing it can put a lot of people off. Perhaps individual help and support p...
Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 487 c364-5WH (Link to this contribution) Well, we all accept that phonics is important. I visited a primary school in Peckham that was going ...
Subjects
Children Assessments Curriculum Languages Qualifications and Curriculum Authority National curriculum tests Primary education Standards Schools Teachers Special educational needs Science Speech and language therapy Communication skills Literacy Teaching methods Mathematics Numeracy Primary Curriculum Review
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