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Antisocial Behaviour

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Type

Parliamentary proceeding

Reference

498 c606-84 

Session

2008-09

Department

Home Office

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber

Proceeding contributions

James Brokenshire | 498 c616 (Link to this contribution) I welcome this debate on antisocial behaviour—a problem that blights too many communities across the...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c615-6 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. Young people—believe it or not, I was once one myself—want t...

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James Brokenshire | 498 c617 (Link to this contribution) It is fairly typical of the right hon. Lady to come up with a point like that, when she well knows t...

Alistair Burt | 498 c615 (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister leaves that subject—to which I am sure others will refer later—may I point out t...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c615 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. I am not just talking about the scheme that I saw in Liverpool on Friday night, in which...

Brooks Newmark | 498 c615 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the point made by the hon. Member for Bridgend (Mrs. Moon). The street pastors in Brain...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c615 (Link to this contribution) It is extremely important that we have standards in place to ensure that we do not have individuals ...

James Brokenshire | 498 c617 (Link to this contribution) Conservative Members have always been committed to dealing with antisocial behaviour. The hon. Lady ...

Siobhain McDonagh | 498 c617 (Link to this contribution) I may be mistaken, but is not the hon. Gentleman the same MP with whom I discussed antisocial behavi...

Hazel Blears | 498 c618 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted that the hon. Gentleman and his party have experienced a damascene conversion to tack...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c620 (Link to this contribution) Can the hon. Gentleman tell me exactly how many targets we currently have for the police?

James Brokenshire | 498 c619-20 (Link to this contribution) Causation is a pertinent issue, and also a very complex one. A whole range of interventions and supp...

James Brokenshire | 498 c619 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that, if the Police Federation follows our proceedings, its members will note what the hon...

Madeleine Moon | 498 c618-9 (Link to this contribution) I suggest that the Police Federation meets my community safety partnership in Bridgend, which is so ...

James Brokenshire | 498 c618 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady has made an important point about the steps that should be taken to prevent antisocial...

Madeleine Moon | 498 c618 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not agree that what he has cited is the failure of a particular police force...

James Brokenshire | 498 c618 (Link to this contribution) Antisocial behaviour orders can be effective. We need to subject them to analysis, and to bear in mi...

James Brokenshire | 498 c607-8 (Link to this contribution) The Minister mentioned as one of those five points raising standards locally and the Home Office ess...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c607 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will have looked at a range of issues. He does not, I believe, support some of th...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c608 (Link to this contribution) The intention is not to drive forward regulation or set central standards. We want to examine partic...

Graham Allen | 498 c609 (Link to this contribution) I thank my right hon. Friend for his generosity in giving way a second time. Does he agree that it i...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c608-9 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. Housing is central to some aspects of the antisocial be...

Humfrey Malins | 498 c610 (Link to this contribution) I know about the number of ASBOs issued, but is the Minister worried that, over those years, more th...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c609-10 (Link to this contribution) That is very important. Very often, the police, people who live on an estate or in a community, and ...

Paul Truswell | 498 c611 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend accept that some of the families about which he is talking are inflicting ...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c610-1 (Link to this contribution) I accept that the breaching of ASBOs has been a concern. I know that the hon. Gentleman is a fair ma...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c612 (Link to this contribution) Not only did my hon. Friend miss the beginning of my speech, but I nearly missed it myself, because ...

David Lepper | 498 c612 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to my right hon. Friend for missing the first part of his speech, but I was serving on a...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c611-2 (Link to this contribution) I accept the point that my hon. Friend makes. It is clear that those people involved in antisocial b...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c613 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely correct. Part of the work that we are doing on neighbourhood policing i...

Siobhain McDonagh | 498 c612-3 (Link to this contribution) In considering discipline in schools and the relationship between young people and the police, would...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c612 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman invites me to stray into other areas of departmental policy. I accept—and I give ...

Jeremy Wright | 498 c612 (Link to this contribution) May I ask the Minister to add something else to the list, namely schools? He is rightly focusing on ...

Madeleine Moon | 498 c614-5 (Link to this contribution) I, too, was out on Friday night. I hope that my hon. Friend did not have the torrential rain and bit...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c613-4 (Link to this contribution) You will excuse me, Mr. Deputy Speaker, if I cannot comment on an individual case that I know nothin...

James Brokenshire | 498 c626-7 (Link to this contribution) I think that the hon. Gentleman has made his point very powerfully and persuasively. That is why I m...

Graham Allen | 498 c626 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether the hon. Gentleman has heard the words of John Carnochan, the former head of h...

James Brokenshire | 498 c627-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has made the point about housing in his own way. Clearly, when we consider housin...

John Hemming | 498 c627 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way on the subject of early intervention and the need to suppo...

Hazel Blears | 498 c629-30 (Link to this contribution) I certainly agree that discipline is essential and that it is important at school, but I will be fra...

Graham Allen | 498 c630 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that a small child who develops social and emotional capabilities wi...

Hazel Blears | 498 c628-9 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to make a contribution in what is an important debate, as evidenced by the number of ho...

David Leslie Taylor | 498 c629 (Link to this contribution) Of course my right hon. Friend is right to suggest that there are social and economic reasons why su...

Hazel Blears | 498 c629 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point and, again, one that I hope will be shared right across the ...

John Hemming | 498 c629 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the right hon. Lady will agree that another aspect of the problem is that human behaviour is...

James Brokenshire | 498 c620 (Link to this contribution) That is interesting, because the hon. Lady suggests that the power should come from the people—that ...

Siobhain McDonagh | 498 c620 (Link to this contribution) I take on board the hon. Gentleman's concerns, but does he not agree that we often need to direct wh...

Chris Huhne | 498 c620 (Link to this contribution) Before the hon. Gentleman moves away from the issue of getting more police on to the front line, may...

James Brokenshire | 498 c621 (Link to this contribution) We have made a very clear commitment to keeping officers on the streets. Our approach is that we mus...

Nadine Dorries | 498 c621 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that, because of such inspection and the attempt to meet targets, many pol...

James Brokenshire | 498 c621 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point about localising priorities. Some aspects of the culture tha...

Madeleine Moon | 498 c621 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

James Brokenshire | 498 c621-3 (Link to this contribution) I have been generous in giving way, so I will move on if I may, as I would like to return to my poin...

Hazel Blears | 498 c623 (Link to this contribution) For the sake of my clarity and, more importantly, for the information of the public, will the hon. G...

James Brokenshire | 498 c623 (Link to this contribution) As I have already said to the right hon. Lady, we support the use of ASBOs in a targeted way. The in...

Chris Huhne | 498 c624 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman mentioned the proposal of the hon. Member for Epsom and Ewell (Chris Grayling) to...

James Brokenshire | 498 c623 (Link to this contribution) I will move on, because I have been generous in giving way to lots of people. We would give police ...

James Brokenshire | 498 c624-5 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has made a significant contribution to the debate through a number of the pamphle...

Lord Deben | 498 c625 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that we also need to have an extensive look at the way in which many teach...

James Brokenshire | 498 c624 (Link to this contribution) No, far from it. I did not mention those proposals for the sake of brevity and to allow other hon. M...

Graham Allen | 498 c624 (Link to this contribution) I know that, beneath the party political banter, the hon. Gentleman thinks deeply about some of thes...

James Brokenshire | 498 c626 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that point. It is a question of focusing on children but wor...

James Brokenshire | 498 c626 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes a powerful and impassioned plea on this point. The focus needs to be on t...

David Leslie Taylor | 498 c626 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Member for Suffolk, Coastal (Mr. Gummer) is being uncharacteristically unfair to the ...

Chris Huhne | 498 c607 (Link to this contribution) Given that there is a fairly small difference between 17 and 21 per cent., is the Minister convinced...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c606 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House has considered the matter of tackling anti-social behaviour." I am p...

Graham Allen | 498 c606 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the Minister will talk about not only antisocial behaviour but its alter ego, pro-social...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c606-7 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an extremely valid point that I will indeed touch on later. He will know that t...

Siobhain McDonagh | 498 c638 (Link to this contribution) I have been fortunate enough to have served on the Public Bill Committee of every bit of recent legi...

Chris Huhne | 498 c638 (Link to this contribution) I will happily give way and happily trade Hansard references with the hon. Lady, if that is what she...

John Hemming | 498 c638 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether my hon. Friend is aware of the research done by the university of Groningen, w...

Graham Allen | 498 c639-40 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is talking about being cost-effective. In Nottingham, for about £700,000 we were ...

Chris Huhne | 498 c638-9 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend, fundamentally so on his initial point that if we are to have such law i...

Caroline Flint | 498 c641 (Link to this contribution) The debate has indicated how complex dealing with antisocial behaviour is. One complexity that under...

Chris Huhne | 498 c640-1 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman —he is absolutely correct. We need much more serious assess...

Caroline Flint | 498 c641 (Link to this contribution) As far as I am aware, a number of fixed penalty notices are available for use by local authorities f...

John Hemming | 498 c641 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady says that the Government are doing everything that we suggest they should. We su...

Chris Huhne | 498 c636 (Link to this contribution) I am astonished, because I was recently at a youth offending institution in west London where a larg...

George Howarth | 498 c636 (Link to this contribution) The evidence that the hon. Gentleman offers is debatable. Would he not accept that while a young per...

Chris Huhne | 498 c636 (Link to this contribution) I will happily give way to the right hon. Gentleman.

Humfrey Malins | 498 c637 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman mentioned grounding orders, the concept of which I am not yet wholly familiar wit...

Chris Huhne | 498 c636-7 (Link to this contribution) I recommend that the hon. Lady does what I have done myself in such circumstances: try, as the local...

Siobhain McDonagh | 498 c636 (Link to this contribution) My experience in my constituency suggests that it is often only when police officers, council office...

James Brokenshire | 498 c637 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is praying in aid the National Audit Office report. Will he comment on the fact t...

David Tredinnick | 498 c652 (Link to this contribution) Madam Deputy Speaker, I will relate my remarks to antisocial behaviour. We really ought to revisit t...

David Tredinnick | 498 c652-3 (Link to this contribution) Madam Deputy Speaker, the answer is that we will have less antisocial behaviour if we have a police ...

David Tredinnick | 498 c651-2 (Link to this contribution) I have some sympathy with what the right hon. Lady has said. However, what we really need, whichever...

Caroline Flint | 498 c650 (Link to this contribution) I am interested in the concept of grounding orders, but a power already exists through parental orde...

Speaker | 498 c653 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman is still on his feet.

Siobhain McDonagh | 498 c654-5 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the hon. Member for Bosworth (David Tredinnick) will pass on my condolences—and, I am su...

David Tredinnick | 498 c653-4 (Link to this contribution) I will sit down soon. We have to deal with this business of risk, and our risk-averse society. It ...

David Tredinnick | 498 c646-8 (Link to this contribution) I do not believe for a second that we would be discussing antisocial behaviour orders today in Gover...

Caroline Flint | 498 c642-6 (Link to this contribution) We are all doing something right, then, and well done to all those countries too. New powers have b...

Chris Huhne | 498 c642 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Lady realise that crime has fallen in every western European country except Belg...

Caroline Flint | 498 c641-2 (Link to this contribution) I shall make a little progress, if I may, because I am in the first paragraph of my speech. It woul...

David Tredinnick | 498 c650 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that I have the support of the right hon. Ladies. We have to look at the issue, so perhaps...

Caroline Flint | 498 c650 (Link to this contribution) indicated assent.

Hazel Blears | 498 c650 (Link to this contribution) indicated assent.

David Tredinnick | 498 c648-50 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the right hon. Lady, but I chose council tenants, because councils often have control o...

Hazel Blears | 498 c648 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making some important points about the pivotal role of housing in tackling ant...

Nadine Dorries | 498 c632 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady talks about sanctions, such as families being removed from their homes if they d...

Hazel Blears | 498 c633-4 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to be able to tell the hon. Lady that in 85 per cent. of cases, the behaviour changed...

Chris Huhne | 498 c634-5 (Link to this contribution) I was about to compliment the right hon. Member for Salford (Hazel Blears)—before she finished with ...

Hazel Blears | 498 c630-1 (Link to this contribution) I will press on, because other hon. Members want to contribute to the debate. I want to say a littl...

Graham Allen | 498 c631 (Link to this contribution) I thank my right hon. Friend for giving way. She is very generous, and I will not interrupt her agai...

Hazel Blears | 498 c631-2 (Link to this contribution) When we meet police community support officers, all of us as constituency Members of Parliament have...

Speaker | 498 c630 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman is an experienced Member; interventions are getting lengthier and lengthie...

Hazel Blears | 498 c630 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with my hon. Friend about early intervention. I saw some research recently that ana...

Alan Campbell | 498 c681-4 (Link to this contribution) This has been a useful and wide-ranging debate, and it was enriched by Members' constituency experie...

Angela Watkinson | 498 c676-8 (Link to this contribution) We have heard from numerous speakers this evening that a wide range of strategies are in place to tr...

Andrew Rosindell | 498 c678-81 (Link to this contribution) This has been a lively and worthwhile debate. We have heard compelling arguments from hon. Members o...

Tom Brake | 498 c664 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is about to refer to the elected commissioners as part of the solution. Will she expla...

Nadine Dorries | 498 c664-5 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted—I thank the hon. Gentleman for that question. Who would want to vote for their job, w...

Humfrey Malins | 498 c660 (Link to this contribution) I will give way once more, but I promised that I would be brief—unlike others.

Hazel Blears | 498 c660-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman appears to be arguing that ASBOs are not effective because they are breached. Doe...

Humfrey Malins | 498 c660 (Link to this contribution) When they break down—the children or the orders? It is hard to say. Yes, I am a very junior member ...

Hazel Blears | 498 c660 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Humfrey Malins | 498 c661-2 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is quite right. I was about to say that the myriad orders, agencies, new punishments ...

Nadine Dorries | 498 c662-4 (Link to this contribution) It is about 8.30 pm and seven Members still wish to speak, so I shall keep my comments as brief as p...

Angela Watkinson | 498 c661 (Link to this contribution) I am sure my hon. Friend is aware that one form of antisocial behaviour starts as early as reception...

Humfrey Malins | 498 c659-60 (Link to this contribution) I shall brief. Let me begin by declaring my usual interest as a practising lawyer and as one who sit...

George Howarth | 498 c660 (Link to this contribution) As a junior member of the judiciary, does the hon. Gentleman not accept that the point at which they...

Siobhain McDonagh | 498 c655 (Link to this contribution) That could be one of the means by which we could do that, but no structure will necessarily give us ...

Laura Moffatt | 498 c655-6 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for giving way. She clearly shares my utter frustration that, when the tools ...

Siobhain McDonagh | 498 c656-8 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. I hope to provide such an example later in my speech. The chief executive of Merton cou...

Caroline Flint | 498 c658-9 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend may be aware that the Home Secretary has said that he is going to produce some more g...

Siobhain McDonagh | 498 c659 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree with my right hon. Friend. This taskforce also struck a note of fear. The fact th...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c659 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that point, and we will certainly look at it. We are trying to ensure that we get ...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 498 c675 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Shailesh Vara | 498 c675-6 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way, because the Minister will have plenty of time in the winding-up speech. The Go...

Dai Davies | 498 c672-4 (Link to this contribution) I start by saying how much I admire the work of the police. It is an unenviable job, and to follow o...

Shailesh Vara | 498 c674-5 (Link to this contribution) The House will be aware that in the year 2007-08, 3.9 million instances of antisocial behaviour were...

Richard Taylor | 498 c668-9 (Link to this contribution) I was delighted this afternoon to hear the Minister, in his introduction, emphasise the right of eve...

Brooks Newmark | 498 c669-72 (Link to this contribution) Thank you for calling me, Mr. Deputy Speaker; I appreciate that four Members wish to speak in the ne...

Alistair Burt | 498 c668 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a fair point. It is all a matter of greater accountability and making sure ...

David Heath | 498 c668 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree with the conclusion that I am rapidly coming to—that one of the proble...

Alistair Burt | 498 c667 (Link to this contribution) Very briefly, as I am conscious of time for others.

David Heath | 498 c667 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Speaker | 498 c667 (Link to this contribution) No; I think that doing so is to be discouraged. I will not say any more at this point; I should like...

Alistair Burt | 498 c667 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It was a letter to me in a different form.

Speaker | 498 c667 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that it is a good idea to read from an electronic device during a speech.

Alistair Burt | 498 c667 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I was seeking to make the point, which the community in Sandy was ma...

Siobhain McDonagh | 498 c665 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman needs to be aware that the council involved, Merton council, is a Conservative-ru...

Alistair Burt | 498 c665-6 (Link to this contribution) In my understanding of government, the Home Secretary is a Labour Home Secretary, the democracy that...

Speaker | 498 c667 (Link to this contribution) Order. I was not watching the hon. Gentleman precisely, but was he reading from an electronic device...

Alistair Burt | 498 c667 (Link to this contribution) I think that I am allowed to do so in the Chamber.

Alistair Burt | 498 c665 (Link to this contribution) This has been an enlightening but also frustrating debate. We have heard many things that have frigh...

Graham Stuart | 498 c655 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady think, as I do, that a directly elected police commissioner might cut through tha...

Hazel Blears | 498 c616-7 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman is so keen on action, why does he propose to cut the Home Office budget by £16...

Lord Horam | 498 c608 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman include housing associations in his list of those to be involved? Ofte...

Chris Huhne | 498 c638 (Link to this contribution) I have looked back at the record very carefully, and I assure the hon. Lady that we were on the reco...

Chris Huhne | 498 c637 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a good point about the need for support from the family. One of the issues ...

Chris Huhne | 498 c637-8 (Link to this contribution) I just gave the actual breach rates for acceptable behaviour contracts, and they are on the record. ...

Speaker | 498 c652 (Link to this contribution) Order. I wonder whether the hon. Gentleman will now relate some of the remarks that he is making—per...

Humfrey Malins | 498 c661 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that that comment was not worthy of a former senior Minister; it is as simple as that. A...

David Drew | 498 c619 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not accept, however, that antisocial behaviour often starts over low-level i...

Brooks Newmark | 498 c653 (Link to this contribution) Come on. There are six other people who want to speak.

Siobhain McDonagh | 498 c659 (Link to this contribution) I thank my right hon. Friend for that, which will provide an important resource for all MPs who are ...

James Brokenshire | 498 c620 (Link to this contribution) The interesting question here is what exactly the Minister means by that, because if we think about ...

Simon Burns | 498 c613 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister agree that however important rehabilitation is, and it is important, there should,...

Speaker | 498 c652 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am trying to follow the hon. Gentleman, and I am just wondering how this might relate to th...

Subjects

Crime prevention Disadvantaged Anti-social behaviour Bureaucracy Neighbourhood policing Housing Families Police Vetting Schools Young offenders Anti-social behaviour orders Family intervention projects

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