Debate on Tuesday, 13 March 2007, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Falconer of Thoroton. The answering member was Lord Strathclyde.
House of Lords: Reform
Lords debate on motion to take note of the White Paper The House of Lords: Reform (Cm 7027). Agreed to on question. (2nd day). (Part 2 of 2).
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- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 690 c620-730
- Session
- 2006-07
- Department
- Department for Constitutional Affairs
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Lords chamber
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- Proceeding contributions
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Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 690 c726 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the noble Lord will forgive me if I address Lords reform at the moment rather ...
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Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 690 c722-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I said in my opening remarks that this would prove to be an historic debate, and so it has...
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Lord Kingsland | 690 c722 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not accept that I am disagreeing with the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde; but the noble...
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Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 690 c729 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am somewhat at a loss, given what the noble and learned Lord has said, to know why anyon...
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Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 690 c729-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, noble Lords must form a view as to whether or not people think it would be worth voting re...
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Lord St John of Fawsley | 690 c727 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble and learned Lord for his approach and for the spirit of his speech tonig...
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Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 690 c726 (Link to this contribution) Not because he was a Tory, my Lords, but because the House was not elected. Without some degree of d...
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Lord Tyler | 690 c714-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if the noble Lord reads my speech in Hansard tomorrow, he will see that I am trying to fol...
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Lord Tyler | 690 c716 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not the Chief Whip for my party, but I support the manifesto commitment of my party, ...
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Viscount Tenby | 690 c716 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, will the noble Lord be kind enough to give a direct answer to the question asked by my nob...
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Lord Tyler | 690 c721 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down, will he give the House a clear indication of how he propo...
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Lord Kingsland | 690 c721 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall vote with the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde.
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Lord Barnett | 690 c721 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord makes very great speeches with which I often agree, but I find it very hard...
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Lord Shutt of Greetland | 690 c716 (Link to this contribution) Have no fear, my Lords. There is a three-line Whip in the party. Perhaps not all colleagues agree wi...
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Lord Kingsland | 690 c716-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had a short conversation with a colleague of mine on the Front Bench the other day. I ex...
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Lord Kingsland | 690 c720-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for that; it is getting late. My final observation is about a hybrid House. I...
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Earl of Onslow | 690 c730 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if there is no consensus, will the Government legislate or will they not?
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Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 690 c730 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are searching for a consensus. On Question, Motion agreed to.
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Lord Cobbold | 690 c651-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, following the surprising votes in the House of Commons last week, we are not really any mo...
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Lord Rosser | 690 c653-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the White Paper, of which we are only being asked to take note, makes no real attempt to e...
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Earl of Caithness | 690 c656-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the vote in the other place last week did not come as a great surprise to me, but it makes...
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Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 690 c658-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it has been a pretty impressive two days of debate, and I venture into this debate with so...
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Lord Campbell of Alloway | 690 c650-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord and I defer to his wisdom and experience. Indeed...
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Lord Anderson of Swansea | 690 c660-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am 40th in a list of 70. We have reached the stage of the debate where everything that c...
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Earl of Onslow | 690 c662-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Anderson, talked of the starting point. I suggest to your Lordships t...
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Lord Elton | 690 c663 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is my noble friend aware of the moment after publication when our late noble friend went i...
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Earl of Onslow | 690 c663-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that we went that far; there was not a queue of noble Lords. I then come t...
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Lord Bowness | 690 c700 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. I am sure at this stage in the debate we w...
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Lord Willoughby de Broke | 690 c708-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall be mercifully brief. My speech can be classified more as a question. The noble Bar...
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Lord Norton of Louth | 690 c706-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in a powerful speech yesterday the noble Baroness, Lady Boothroyd, said that the Governmen...
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Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 690 c703-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like other speakers in this debate, I spent a happy couple of hours at the weekend reading...
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Baroness Hooper | 690 c701-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on Second Reading of the reform Bill in 1998 I said that the best way forward would be to ...
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Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 690 c701 (Link to this contribution) I thought your Lordships would appreciate that. That will leave them with only one ambition, the bi...
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Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 690 c700-1 (Link to this contribution) If I am not interrupted, I may end quicker. This article is being used to pass a whole string of po...
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Lord Trefgarne | 690 c700 (Link to this contribution) Only three minutes to go.
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Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 690 c700 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful. If the noble Lord has patience, he will follow my argument to its obvi...
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Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 690 c709-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am only here because the reform of this House had started. It is an honour to be here as...
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Lord Adebowale | 690 c710 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am a people’s Peer. I filled in an application form, went for an interview and got the j...
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Lord Winston | 690 c713 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, can the noble Lord tell us the proportion of the electorate that voted in those polls?
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Lord Tyler | 690 c712-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord underlines my point. The reasons committee never comes back to this House w...
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Lord Campbell of Alloway | 690 c714 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for interrupting. I ask the noble Lord to relate his rhetoric to the problem o...
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Lord Tyler | 690 c713-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, a substantial number of people take part in those polls and they are carefully balanced to...
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Viscount Bledisloe | 690 c712 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord suggests that we should entirely alter the form and format of this House no...
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Lord Tyler | 690 c710-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, today’s New York Times headlines its report: "““British Lords Defend Their Seats, Like Jun...
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Lord MacGregor of Pulham Market | 690 c712 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord referred to the reasons committee. I sometimes accepted amendments from the...
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Lord Tyler | 690 c712 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Viscount had his chance during the debate, and I am coming to that point. I will...
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Viscount Trenchard | 690 c678-81 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall try not to burden the House with a lengthy repetition of all the arguments so eloq...
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Lord Young of Norwood Green | 690 c677-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it has been a fascinating debate, with every possible shade of opinion expressed. When low...
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Lord Inglewood | 690 c668-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, at this stage of the debate, when everything that might be said has been said and probably...
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Lord Birt | 690 c664-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that I bat at 99, a number I associate with sweet confectionary. The century will ...
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Lord Steinberg | 690 c675-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, no! No! No! This is not a White Paper, it is a bit of straw. This is not a bad Bill, nor a...
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Lord Moran | 690 c674-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we were all perhaps a little stunned by the votes in the House of Commons last week, but w...
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Lord Bowness | 690 c672-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, many noble Lords, in particular my noble and learned friend Lord Howe of Aberavon and the ...
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Lord Puttnam | 690 c670-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have enjoyed the privilege of serving in your Lordships’ House for almost 10 years. Duri...
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Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 690 c699-700 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, many of your Lordships have rightly pointed out that it is pretty silly to reform your Lor...
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Lord Elton | 690 c697-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the wake of that splendid speech it will take some agility on my part to adjust what I ...
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Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 690 c684-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, at this stage in the debate, I, like my noble friend Lord Trenchard, am very conscious of ...
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Viscount Eccles | 690 c682-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, somewhat different interpretations of the state of play between the two Houses have emerge...
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Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 690 c688-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is always a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart, but, I am afraid, I remai...
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Lord Goodhart | 690 c686-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, most Members of your Lordships’ House, including me, believe that a system that got us her...
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Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 690 c691-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before I came into the House in 1997, I was a trade union official. I was initially an app...
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Lord Naseby | 690 c690-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I arrived in your Lordships' House 10 years ago. Like 58 other people nominated before me,...
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Lord Brennan | 690 c696-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I propose to call on a thus far unmentioned quality of this House—its fortitude. As speake...
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Lord Selsdon | 690 c693-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, after 44 years in this House I find myself in a state of great excitement and enthusiasm b...
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Lady Saltoun of Abernethy | 690 c647-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, a proposition has been mooted in some quarters, particularly in chapter 10 of the White Pa...
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Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 690 c646-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree entirely with all Peers who, yesterday and today, expressed fundamental disagreeme...
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Lord Goodlad | 690 c628-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when, for three separate periods over a number of years, I was part of the usual channels ...
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Lord Low of Dalston | 690 c631-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like the noble Baroness, Lady Deech, last night, I hope that the observations of a relativ...
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Lord Gordon of Strathblane | 690 c633-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I imagine did many noble Lords last Wednesday evening, I sensed the boot of history tar...
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Lord Saatchi | 690 c636-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my purpose today is to seek an undertaking from the Government that, if any Bill is sent u...
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Lord Lipsey | 690 c637-39 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, some noble Lords may think that I am lowering the tone of this wonderful debate if I confi...
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Baroness Miller of Hendon | 690 c640-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had a marvellous debate both today and yesterday. I apologise to noble Lords who s...
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Lord Neill of Bladen | 690 c641-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is a very difficult act to follow. The noble Lord, Lord Grocott, if he would desist f...
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Lord Elder | 690 c644-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I intend to continue to argue, perhaps uniquely in both Houses, that we should not discard...
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Lord Sewel | 690 c626-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was somewhat disappointed by the White Paper, not so much because of its internal incons...
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Lord Monson | 690 c626 (Link to this contribution) Yes, my Lords, indeed we did, but the Commons eventually accepted them.
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Lord Smith of Clifton | 690 c623-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when I am asked what it is like to be in the Lords, I reply that, as occupational therapy ...
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Lord Monson | 690 c624-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, conscious of the time pressures on anyone speaking three-fifths of the way through an extr...
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Lord Waddington | 690 c621-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have to disappoint noble Lords as I have found that there is something to say. One matte...
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Lord Waddington | 690 c620 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, sometimes at this stage of a long debate, there really is nothing new to say.
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Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 690 c726 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the question of constitutional reform was rightly raised. The objection was made in severa...
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Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 690 c727-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure to what the noble Lord is referring when he refers to the pledge. We are at ...
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Lord Sheldon | 690 c649-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, so much of what I was going to say has already been said, so, as the 91st speaker in this ...
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Lord Tanlaw | 690 c681-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am always glad to follow the noble Viscount, who puts his views clearly. I am glad that ...
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Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 690 c666-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Birt, for doing the count so that I know I am number 100 on t...
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Lord Ampthill | 690 c626 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, having implied that we do nothing in this House, does my noble friend not accept that, ove...
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