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Debate on Tuesday, 13 March 2007, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Falconer of Thoroton. The answering member was Lord Strathclyde.


House of Lords: Reform

Lords debate on motion to take note of the White Paper The House of Lords: Reform (Cm 7027). Agreed to on question. (2nd day). (Part 2 of 2).


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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
690 c620-730 
Session
2006-07
Department
Department for Constitutional Affairs
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 690 c726 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the noble Lord will forgive me if I address Lords reform at the moment rather ...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 690 c722-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I said in my opening remarks that this would prove to be an historic debate, and so it has...
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Lord Kingsland | 690 c722 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not accept that I am disagreeing with the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde; but the noble...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 690 c729 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am somewhat at a loss, given what the noble and learned Lord has said, to know why anyon...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 690 c729-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, noble Lords must form a view as to whether or not people think it would be worth voting re...
Lord St John of Fawsley | 690 c727 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble and learned Lord for his approach and for the spirit of his speech tonig...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 690 c726 (Link to this contribution) Not because he was a Tory, my Lords, but because the House was not elected. Without some degree of d...
Lord Tyler | 690 c714-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if the noble Lord reads my speech in Hansard tomorrow, he will see that I am trying to fol...
Lord Tyler | 690 c716 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not the Chief Whip for my party, but I support the manifesto commitment of my party, ...
Viscount Tenby | 690 c716 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, will the noble Lord be kind enough to give a direct answer to the question asked by my nob...
Lord Tyler | 690 c721 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down, will he give the House a clear indication of how he propo...
Lord Kingsland | 690 c721 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall vote with the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde.
Lord Barnett | 690 c721 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord makes very great speeches with which I often agree, but I find it very hard...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 690 c716 (Link to this contribution) Have no fear, my Lords. There is a three-line Whip in the party. Perhaps not all colleagues agree wi...
Lord Kingsland | 690 c716-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had a short conversation with a colleague of mine on the Front Bench the other day. I ex...
Lord Kingsland | 690 c720-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for that; it is getting late. My final observation is about a hybrid House. I...
Earl of Onslow | 690 c730 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if there is no consensus, will the Government legislate or will they not?
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 690 c730 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are searching for a consensus. On Question, Motion agreed to.
Lord Cobbold | 690 c651-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, following the surprising votes in the House of Commons last week, we are not really any mo...
Lord Rosser | 690 c653-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the White Paper, of which we are only being asked to take note, makes no real attempt to e...
Earl of Caithness | 690 c656-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the vote in the other place last week did not come as a great surprise to me, but it makes...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 690 c658-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it has been a pretty impressive two days of debate, and I venture into this debate with so...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 690 c650-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord and I defer to his wisdom and experience. Indeed...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 690 c660-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am 40th in a list of 70. We have reached the stage of the debate where everything that c...
Earl of Onslow | 690 c662-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Anderson, talked of the starting point. I suggest to your Lordships t...
Lord Elton | 690 c663 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is my noble friend aware of the moment after publication when our late noble friend went i...
Earl of Onslow | 690 c663-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that we went that far; there was not a queue of noble Lords. I then come t...
Lord Bowness | 690 c700 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. I am sure at this stage in the debate we w...
Lord Willoughby de Broke | 690 c708-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall be mercifully brief. My speech can be classified more as a question. The noble Bar...
Lord Norton of Louth | 690 c706-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in a powerful speech yesterday the noble Baroness, Lady Boothroyd, said that the Governmen...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 690 c703-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like other speakers in this debate, I spent a happy couple of hours at the weekend reading...
Baroness Hooper | 690 c701-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on Second Reading of the reform Bill in 1998 I said that the best way forward would be to ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 690 c701 (Link to this contribution) I thought your Lordships would appreciate that. That will leave them with only one ambition, the bi...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 690 c700-1 (Link to this contribution) If I am not interrupted, I may end quicker. This article is being used to pass a whole string of po...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 690 c700 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful. If the noble Lord has patience, he will follow my argument to its obvi...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 690 c709-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am only here because the reform of this House had started. It is an honour to be here as...
Lord Adebowale | 690 c710 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am a people’s Peer. I filled in an application form, went for an interview and got the j...
Lord Winston | 690 c713 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, can the noble Lord tell us the proportion of the electorate that voted in those polls?
Lord Tyler | 690 c712-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord underlines my point. The reasons committee never comes back to this House w...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 690 c714 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for interrupting. I ask the noble Lord to relate his rhetoric to the problem o...
Lord Tyler | 690 c713-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, a substantial number of people take part in those polls and they are carefully balanced to...
Viscount Bledisloe | 690 c712 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord suggests that we should entirely alter the form and format of this House no...
Lord Tyler | 690 c710-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, today’s New York Times headlines its report: "““British Lords Defend Their Seats, Like Jun...
Lord MacGregor of Pulham Market | 690 c712 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord referred to the reasons committee. I sometimes accepted amendments from the...
Lord Tyler | 690 c712 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Viscount had his chance during the debate, and I am coming to that point. I will...
Viscount Trenchard | 690 c678-81 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall try not to burden the House with a lengthy repetition of all the arguments so eloq...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 690 c677-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it has been a fascinating debate, with every possible shade of opinion expressed. When low...
Lord Inglewood | 690 c668-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, at this stage of the debate, when everything that might be said has been said and probably...
Lord Birt | 690 c664-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that I bat at 99, a number I associate with sweet confectionary. The century will ...
Lord Steinberg | 690 c675-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, no! No! No! This is not a White Paper, it is a bit of straw. This is not a bad Bill, nor a...
Lord Moran | 690 c674-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we were all perhaps a little stunned by the votes in the House of Commons last week, but w...
Lord Bowness | 690 c672-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, many noble Lords, in particular my noble and learned friend Lord Howe of Aberavon and the ...
Lord Puttnam | 690 c670-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have enjoyed the privilege of serving in your Lordships’ House for almost 10 years. Duri...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 690 c699-700 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, many of your Lordships have rightly pointed out that it is pretty silly to reform your Lor...
Lord Elton | 690 c697-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the wake of that splendid speech it will take some agility on my part to adjust what I ...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 690 c684-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, at this stage in the debate, I, like my noble friend Lord Trenchard, am very conscious of ...
Viscount Eccles | 690 c682-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, somewhat different interpretations of the state of play between the two Houses have emerge...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 690 c688-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is always a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart, but, I am afraid, I remai...
Lord Goodhart | 690 c686-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, most Members of your Lordships’ House, including me, believe that a system that got us her...
Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 690 c691-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before I came into the House in 1997, I was a trade union official. I was initially an app...
Lord Naseby | 690 c690-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I arrived in your Lordships' House 10 years ago. Like 58 other people nominated before me,...
Lord Brennan | 690 c696-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I propose to call on a thus far unmentioned quality of this House—its fortitude. As speake...
Lord Selsdon | 690 c693-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, after 44 years in this House I find myself in a state of great excitement and enthusiasm b...
Lady Saltoun of Abernethy | 690 c647-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, a proposition has been mooted in some quarters, particularly in chapter 10 of the White Pa...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 690 c646-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree entirely with all Peers who, yesterday and today, expressed fundamental disagreeme...
Lord Goodlad | 690 c628-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when, for three separate periods over a number of years, I was part of the usual channels ...
Lord Low of Dalston | 690 c631-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like the noble Baroness, Lady Deech, last night, I hope that the observations of a relativ...
Lord Gordon of Strathblane | 690 c633-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I imagine did many noble Lords last Wednesday evening, I sensed the boot of history tar...
Lord Saatchi | 690 c636-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my purpose today is to seek an undertaking from the Government that, if any Bill is sent u...
Lord Lipsey | 690 c637-39 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, some noble Lords may think that I am lowering the tone of this wonderful debate if I confi...
Baroness Miller of Hendon | 690 c640-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had a marvellous debate both today and yesterday. I apologise to noble Lords who s...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 690 c641-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is a very difficult act to follow. The noble Lord, Lord Grocott, if he would desist f...
Lord Elder | 690 c644-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I intend to continue to argue, perhaps uniquely in both Houses, that we should not discard...
Lord Sewel | 690 c626-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was somewhat disappointed by the White Paper, not so much because of its internal incons...
Lord Monson | 690 c626 (Link to this contribution) Yes, my Lords, indeed we did, but the Commons eventually accepted them.
Lord Smith of Clifton | 690 c623-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when I am asked what it is like to be in the Lords, I reply that, as occupational therapy ...
Lord Monson | 690 c624-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, conscious of the time pressures on anyone speaking three-fifths of the way through an extr...
Lord Waddington | 690 c621-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have to disappoint noble Lords as I have found that there is something to say. One matte...
Lord Waddington | 690 c620 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, sometimes at this stage of a long debate, there really is nothing new to say.
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 690 c726 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the question of constitutional reform was rightly raised. The objection was made in severa...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 690 c727-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure to what the noble Lord is referring when he refers to the pledge. We are at ...
Lord Sheldon | 690 c649-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, so much of what I was going to say has already been said, so, as the 91st speaker in this ...
Lord Tanlaw | 690 c681-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am always glad to follow the noble Viscount, who puts his views clearly. I am glad that ...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 690 c666-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Birt, for doing the count so that I know I am number 100 on t...
Lord Ampthill | 690 c626 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, having implied that we do nothing in this House, does my noble friend not accept that, ove...
Subjects
Bishops Elections House of Lords House of Commons Hereditary peers House of Lords composition Legislation Electoral systems Powers Public appointments Parliamentary scrutiny Life peers Reform Crossbenchers
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