Debate on bill on Tuesday, 17 October 2006, in the House of Lords.
Education and Inspections Bill
Education and Inspections Bill. Lords Report stage first day.
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Education and Inspections Bill. As amended in Committee (HL).
Tuesday, 25 July 2006
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House of Lords
- Proceeding contributions
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Lord Baker of Dorking | 685 c700-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 16 stands in my name and those of the noble Baroness, Lady Massey, and the n...
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Bishop of Portsmouth | 685 c697-700 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 9: Page 3, line 32, at end insert- ““( ) No person may be appointed as a schoo...
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Bishop of Portsmouth | 685 c702 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is25 per cent, and I speak, I hope, as a mathematician.
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Lord Adonis | 685 c696 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall certainly consider that. I believe that there may be a case for it, and I would be...
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Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 685 c696 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, could that also be extended to cover the case where there is no parent and yet the need fo...
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Lord Adonis | 685 c696 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall certainly do that. If we were to make a change of the kind suggested by the noble ...
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Baroness Turner of Camden | 685 c696-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his sympathetic response to this interesting debate and I thank n...
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Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 685 c695 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, will the Minister confirm that what he is talking about would also apply to the mentor of ...
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Lord Adonis | 685 c695-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in respect of looked-after children, the guidance says: "““In cases where a [looked-after ...
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Lord Elton | 685 c696 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, will the Minister, in his own time, consider whether it is possible to get a mentor into t...
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Baroness Walmsley | 685 c688-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Baroness, Lady Turner, on Amendment No. 8 and have added my name to it...
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Baroness Turner of Camden | 685 c686-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 8: After Clause 4, insert the following new clause- ““CONSULTATION WITH PUPILS...
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Lord Dearing | 685 c690 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I warmly support the amendment tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Turner, on listening to ...
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Lord Northbourne | 685 c690 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the need to listen to the voice of the child is a fashionable concept these days and is ve...
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Baroness David | 685 c691 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support the amendment moved by my noble friend Lady Turner. I shall repeat what I ...
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Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 685 c690-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I also very much support the amendments. One increasingly sees the value of consulting the...
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Lord Elton | 685 c691-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to say a word in support of the contribution of the noble Lord, Lord Dearing. One t...
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Lord Adonis | 685 c692-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been an immensely valuable debate. I begin by saying that, if the noble Lord, Lor...
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Baroness Turner of Camden | 685 c695 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, does that also include a right at appeal? Is the emphasis on the agreement of the parent? ...
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Lord Adonis | 685 c695 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I believe that is true also for appeal hearings, but I shall confirm that to my noble frie...
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Baroness Buscombe | 685 c675-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for her intervention, but I think that she did say that. It was...
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Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 685 c682-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with my noble friend Lord Dearing that the words are not quite accurate, but the i...
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Lord Northbourne | 685 c682 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendments and echo every word that my noble friend Lord Dearing has said. H...
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Lord Dearing | 685 c681-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment No. 6; I wish I had added it also to Amendments Nos. 70 ...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 685 c678-81 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 6: Page 2, line 16, at end insert ““, and ““(c) ensuring that the schools in i...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 685 c685 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his response. I am also most grateful to all noble Lords...
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Lord Dearing | 685 c685 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was very reassured by what the Minister said on Amendments Nos. 6 and 80. On Amendment N...
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Lord Hylton | 685 c683 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support all three amendments in this group, but I address Amendment No. 80 in particular...
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Lord Adonis | 685 c683-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that I can give the reassurance that noble Lords seek on these amendments. I very m...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 685 c685 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we may bring back an amendment at Third Reading that picks up one or two of these points, ...
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Baroness Buscombe | 685 c665-7 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 4: Page 2, line 14, at end insert- ““( ) encouraging all schools to become fou...
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Lord Lucas | 685 c665 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I entirely agree with the Minister—the noble Baroness, Lady Morris, carried the day. It wa...
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Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 685 c669-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have not entered into any of the debates so far on the Bill because I live north of the ...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 685 c667-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments Nos. 12, to 15, in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Wa...
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Baroness Buscombe | 685 c675 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I begin by agreeing with the Minister. I am sure that I speak for all noble Lords when I s...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 685 c675 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that I said that schools were there to serve the local education authority—...
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Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 685 c670 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, tempted as I am to speak about Scottish education, I shall resist. I support Amendment No....
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Baroness Morris of Yardley | 685 c671-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak against Amendment No. 4. The picture of the English education system described by ...
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Lord Lucas | 685 c672-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness answered herself in her previous contribution when she successfully out...
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Lord Adonis | 685 c673-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the House is grateful to the noble Baronesses, Lady Sharp and Lady Buscombe, for coming ba...
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Lord Lucas | 685 c659 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 3: Page 2, line 2, leave out ““educational”” The noble Lord said: My Lords, I...
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Lord Judd | 685 c658-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful again to the Minister for his considered and full reply to the points t...
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Lord Adonis | 685 c665 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am glad to say that I have completed my remarks.
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Lord Adonis | 685 c663-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Clauses 1 to 4 are grounded on the principle that every child deserves a good education re...
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Baroness Walmsley | 685 c665 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have moved Amendments Nos. 84 and 85 to a later group, so if the Minister intended to c...
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Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 685 c663 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support all the sentiments which imply that we must focus on the child as a whole being ...
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Lord Northbourne | 685 c661 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support all the amendments in the group. This raises a fundamental question about what e...
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Baroness Morris of Yardley | 685 c661-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendments, particularly Amendments Nos. 55 and 56. In doing so, I declare a...
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Baroness Walmsley | 685 c653-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Judd, on Amendments Nos. 1 and 2, to which I have put my na...
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Lord Judd | 685 c651-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1: Page 1, line 5, after ““Duty”” insert ““to secure the right to education an...
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Baroness David | 685 c655 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support these three amendments too. Yesterday, I received a letter from UNICEF reminding...
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Lord Northbourne | 685 c654-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support all three amendments. I did not have the benefit of seeing the letter sent to th...
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Lord Adonis | 685 c655-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that I am not guilty of becoming a prisoner of institutional Whitehall. Most of my ...
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Baroness Buscombe | 685 c655 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these Benches think Amendment No. 7 unnecessary for two reasons. First, a duty already exi...
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Baroness Blood | 685 c720 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as chair of Integrated Education in Northern Ireland, I shall resist the temptation of the...
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Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 685 c720-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am encouraged to follow the noble Baroness and to agree very much with her. I support th...
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Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 685 c721-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, gales of belief have been blowing around this Chamber tonight—the beliefs of those who are...
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Baroness Turner of Camden | 685 c722-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to speak to Amendment No. 79, because I have a series of amendments to that g...
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Baroness Richardson of Calow | 685 c716-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am making a great effort not to be tempted to defend the Christian Church. I shall speak...
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Earl of Onslow | 685 c717 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lord Baker’s plea for inclusion was very heartfelt and immensely important...
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Lord Tombs | 685 c718 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I want to associate myself with the remarks made by my noble friend Lord Alton, who...
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Bishop of Newcastle | 685 c718-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the last thing I want to do is to make any kind of grand or grandiose claims on behalf of ...
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Lord Skidelsky | 685 c713-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to support Amendment No. 16, to which I have appended my name. Therefore I do not a...
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Lord Taverne | 685 c714-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have put my name to the amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Baker, who spoke to it ...
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Baroness Buscombe | 685 c732-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a fascinating, wide-ranging and well informed debate that confirms the disti...
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Baroness Turner of Camden | 685 c731 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is the noble Baroness not aware that that is already available to parents? Parents can rem...
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Baroness Walmsley | 685 c731 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am well aware of that. A comment that may be more welcome to the noble Baroness, Lady Tu...
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Lord Avebury | 685 c731 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, could my noble friend explain why she does not think that religious education up to age 15...
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Baroness Walmsley | 685 c731 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if my noble friend is asking me why I do not support the Gillick principle, I shall come t...
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Lord Dearing | 685 c727-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like, if I might, to give a practical welcome to the right reverend Prelate the Bi...
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Baroness Walmsley | 685 c728-31 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that the feeling of the House may be that we should move to a conclusion, so I ven...
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Lord Elton | 685 c726-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall be brief because it is high time the right reverend Prelate had a break from this,...
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Baroness David | 685 c727 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, what do the Minister and his department think about the number of additional schools, ment...
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Baroness Massey of Darwen | 685 c708 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was not talking about denying people religious education; I was talking about collective...
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Lord Alton of Liverpool | 685 c708-12 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Baroness touched on that point, she mentioned what she described as the v...
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Baroness Massey of Darwen | 685 c706-7 (Link to this contribution) Yes there is, my Lords. Some 70 per cent of secondary schools do not comply with conducting an act o...
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Lord Alton of Liverpool | 685 c707-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Massey, has just mentioned the relevance of religion in society t...
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Lord Waddington | 685 c712-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will just make two short points. I find myself in broad agreement with the noble Lord, L...
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Lord Baker of Dorking | 685 c702-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the right reverend Prelate says 25 per cent but Hansard will reveal that he said ““20 per ...
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Baroness Massey of Darwen | 685 c704-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment proposed by the noble Lord, Lord Baker, and join him in welcoming ...
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Lord Baker of Dorking | 685 c704 (Link to this contribution) That is their choice. I say to the leaders of the Muslim community: is it really wise to promote th...
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Bishop of Portsmouth | 685 c740-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a great pleasure for me to say that I had a good lunch, and look forward to having a...
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Baroness Crawley | 685 c742 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that consideration on Report be now adjourned. It has been agreed not to res...
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Lord Adonis | 685 c736-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I accept that the noble Baroness does not, but I think that there is broad support from ot...
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Lord Baker of Dorking | 685 c739-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this quite remarkable debate. We have h...
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Lord Adonis | 685 c735-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this debate has covered such a wide range of issues that, to do them all justice, I would ...
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Baroness Buscombe | 685 c736 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am loath to intervene, but, perhaps because I was speaking at 90 miles an hour, I should...
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Baroness Walmsley | 685 c659-61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments Nos. 55 and 56, which are grouped with those of the noble Lord...
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Lord Dearing | 685 c663 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak briefly in support of the noble Lord, Lord Sutherland. Schools exist primari...
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Lord Avebury | 685 c724-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a pity that the Minister’s amendment was not grouped separately so that we could hav...
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