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Adjournment debate on Thursday, 18 January 2007, in the House of Commons, led by Tony McNulty. The answering member was Lord Herbert of South Downs.


Antisocial Behaviour

Debate on a motion for the adjourment on antisocial behaviour. Motion for the adjournment lapsed without question put.


Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
455 c947-1026 
Session
2006-07
Department
Home Office
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Philip Davies | 455 c967-8 (Link to this contribution) I am interested to hear about the hon. Lady’s experiences. I certainly pay tribute to West Yorkshire...
Philip Davies | 455 c970 (Link to this contribution) I totally agree with the hon. Lady. The community support officers in her constituency and mine whom...
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Mary Creagh | 455 c970-2 (Link to this contribution) No police community support officers have raised that point with me. However, on my night out with t...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c975 (Link to this contribution) I shall take the questions from the Labour coalition with the Conservative party as one amalgamated ...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c973-4 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely flattered that just over an hour and a half after the debate began the hon. Gentleman...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c974-5 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman has only just come into the Chamber, he will not have heard the Minister’s ope...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c976 (Link to this contribution) I was at school during that period as well. Let me return to the legislation opposed by Labour Memb...
Meg Hillier | 455 c975 (Link to this contribution) I remind the hon. Gentleman that some of us were still at school during the ’80s. We are talking abo...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c975 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way shortly to the hon. Lady, who might want to explain why the Labour party voted agai...
Annette Brooke | 455 c976 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend confirm that the Anti-social Behaviour Act 2003 was not about ASBOs as such but ...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c976 (Link to this contribution) I want to finish this point. Labour Members must face the fact that voting against a Bill in its en...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c977 (Link to this contribution) I have spoken about ASBOs to the point of testing the patience of hon. Members who wandered in recen...
Simon Burns | 455 c977 (Link to this contribution) I am a simple seeker after facts. Twelve minutes have now passed since the hon. Member for North Dur...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c977 (Link to this contribution) It is often said that success has many parents and failure is an orphan. On that basis, it is no won...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c978 (Link to this contribution) Do hon. Members want to go through every council in the country in an attempt to score points for th...
Meg Hillier | 455 c977-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has indeed been generous in giving way. He highlights Islington under the Liberal...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c978 (Link to this contribution) Where do I start? Taunton Deane borough council is the dominant local authority in my constituency. ...
David Wilshire | 455 c978 (Link to this contribution) I assure the hon. Gentleman that I did not rush in when I realised that he was speaking. Indeed, muc...
Lord Beamish | 455 c979-80 (Link to this contribution) The new Liberal Democrat policy that we all need to love one another to solve crime is most enlighte...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c978-9 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point. The issue of the national phone number was raised earlier. Certai...
Annette Brooke | 455 c978 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that when we have a national telephone number on which to report antisocia...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c980-1 (Link to this contribution) I and a record number—since the second world war—of my colleagues were elected on the 2005 general e...
Mary Creagh | 455 c980 (Link to this contribution) In the past, the hon. Gentleman’s party’s policy has been to allow 16 and 17-year-olds both to purch...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c981-2 (Link to this contribution) I do not recall that. I do not know whether I should use the defence used earlier by a Labour Member...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c982 (Link to this contribution) I will give way for, I think, the fourth time to the enthusiastic intervener from Chelmsford.
Simon Burns | 455 c982 (Link to this contribution) I am only intervening because I am fascinated. The hon. Gentleman said that his party had ““pioneere...
Mary Creagh | 455 c966-7 (Link to this contribution) I began by visiting a CCTV control room—[Interruption.] It was all quite entertaining: it is certain...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 455 c965 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is exactly right. People do not know who is responsible and that is part of the probl...
Mary Creagh | 455 c965-6 (Link to this contribution) Antisocial behaviour is a blight on our communities and the Government make no apology for taking th...
Mary Creagh | 455 c968-70 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention. I know that he takes an interest in the police, be...
Simon Burns | 455 c975 (Link to this contribution) I fully accept that in Committee Opposition Members and Back-Bench Government Members will ask quest...
Lord Beamish | 455 c974 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman says that the Liberal Democrats supported the Crime and Disorder Act 1998, but in...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c976-7 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to hon. Members shortly when I have finished this section. There is an interesting ...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c976 (Link to this contribution) I will come to the hon. Gentleman in a moment; he has the opportunity to make a speech if he wishes....
Mary Creagh | 455 c977 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is generous in giving way. It is important to note for the record that Councillor...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c982 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can explain. The position may be different in London, but the hon. Gentleman’s colleague t...
James Brokenshire | 455 c1018-22 (Link to this contribution) In his opening speech, the Minister said that he hoped that we would have a thoughtful and measured ...
Lord Coaker | 455 c1022-6 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure and a privilege to wind up such an important debate. As various hon. Members on bot...
Lindsay Hoyle | 455 c1014-5 (Link to this contribution) I understand that the hon. Gentleman will speak next. I have nearly finished, and I think that it is...
Tobias Ellwood | 455 c1015-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Member for Chorley (Mr. Hoyle) for an excellent speech, and I share a number of his...
Lord Beamish | 455 c990 (Link to this contribution) I am interested in what my hon. Friend is saying. In my constituency, as in hers, young people’s liv...
Meg Hillier | 455 c990-1 (Link to this contribution) I think it is fair to say that on this side of the House, we believe in joined-up government to tack...
David Wilshire | 455 c993 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my right hon. Friend is right. Such measures are worth implementing. However, I hope ...
Meg Hillier | 455 c993 (Link to this contribution) We all recognise that we must take account of past decisions and past behaviour. However, let me cit...
David Wilshire | 455 c991-2 (Link to this contribution) Students of my speeches will know that they are normally noted more for their length than their bril...
Greg Knight | 455 c992-3 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend aware that endorsing the driving licence of a convicted yob, or imposing a driving...
Iain Wright | 455 c1001-2 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. One of the things that I would like to see in my area is an anal...
Speaker | 455 c1002 (Link to this contribution) Order. It might help if I offer a little guidance to the House. The Back-Bench speeches are averagin...
Robert Goodwill | 455 c1002-4 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to follow the hon. Member for Hartlepool (Mr. Wright). My mother’s family hail from wes...
Annette Brooke | 455 c999-1000 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. Would he be surprised to learn that a recent answer to ...
Iain Wright | 455 c1000-1 (Link to this contribution) I agree. As soon as the debate finishes, I shall rush to the Hartlepool children and young person’s ...
Lindsay Hoyle | 455 c1001 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a good point. We must ensure that people who commit crimes tidy up the area...
David Wilshire | 455 c993-4 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Lady. That was why I stressed that the thinking needs to look back. My analysi...
Iain Wright | 455 c996-9 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Member for Spelthorne (Mr. Wilshire) for giving us thoughtful, considered and non-p...
David Wilshire | 455 c994-6 (Link to this contribution) I said that I would be controversial. I am not arguing for any particular type of housing; I simply ...
Lindsay Hoyle | 455 c1012-4 (Link to this contribution) It is great that so many people have joined in the debate. That shows how much store people put by t...
Annette Brooke | 455 c1012 (Link to this contribution) I am really short of time. It has to be better to have parental classes on a voluntary basis, as pa...
Shona McIsaac | 455 c1006-9 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady should go away and read the back copies of reports on the Committee stages of the Bill...
Annette Brooke | 455 c1009-12 (Link to this contribution) The impact of antisocial behaviour on communities and individuals cannot be overestimated, and it mu...
Shona McIsaac | 455 c1005 (Link to this contribution) I certainly will give way to the other Member present in the Chamber who served on that Committee.
Annette Brooke | 455 c1006 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Lady confirm that in fact we discussed community support officers—which is, I think, w...
Shona McIsaac | 455 c1005 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to take part in the debate, and I want to echo some of the comments of the hon. Mem...
Robert Goodwill | 455 c1004-5 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that. As he knows, I completed my 50th year during the Christmas break. I...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c983-4 (Link to this contribution) I am genuinely shocked to learn of what happened in Hampshire. Perhaps I was too generous to the Lab...
Meg Hillier | 455 c984-90 (Link to this contribution) First, let me acknowledge the contributions of previous speakers, particularly for the benefit of th...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c982 (Link to this contribution) Let us now hear a fifth intervention from the hon. Gentleman.
Simon Burns | 455 c982-3 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way. I fully agree with anyone who is critical o...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c983 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that I could have been clearer. The hon. Gentleman talks about rewriting history, but...
Chris Huhne | 455 c983 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is, perhaps, letting Labour Ministers off a little lightly, because the situation in ...
David Wilshire | 455 c949 (Link to this contribution) I am listening carefully to what the Minister is saying. Is it not the case, however, that although ...
Tony McNulty | 455 c949 (Link to this contribution) It would be a pity—I put it no more strongly than that—if, given the increasing use and effectivenes...
David Davis | 455 c950 (Link to this contribution) It is inevitable that there will be different interpretations of bits of the NAO report from Members...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 455 c954-5 (Link to this contribution) Antisocial behaviour is of enormous and growing concern to the public and to this House. In a survey...
Lord Coaker | 455 c955 (Link to this contribution) In pointing out the number of ASBOs that were breached according to the NAO report, will the hon. Ge...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 455 c955 (Link to this contribution) I am interested by the Minister’s intervention, but the truth is that those were cases in which othe...
Lindsay Hoyle | 455 c955 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is getting to the heart of where the real problem lies, which is with the courts,...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 455 c955-8 (Link to this contribution) Well, there are a number of problems. First, it may be the case that the courts are not being tough ...
Meg Hillier | 455 c958 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman raises the issue of the cost of penalty notices. Would he rather see those offend...
Tony McNulty | 455 c949-50 (Link to this contribution) My remarks are still at the introductory stage, but I think the substance of them has been precisely...
Tony McNulty | 455 c947 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to have been given the opportunity to open this lengthy and, I hope, wide-ranging deb...
Tony McNulty | 455 c948 (Link to this contribution) I do not share my hon. Friend’s disappointment, but I take his point about the general problem of mi...
Lindsay Hoyle | 455 c948 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right that ASBOs work; they have been very effective. That is largely d...
Tony McNulty | 455 c947 (Link to this contribution) I entirely support my hon. Friend’s point about individual support orders. To be effective, the whol...
Graham Stringer | 455 c947-8 (Link to this contribution) I fully support the Government’s antisocial behaviour policies and the use of ASBOs, whose effective...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 455 c964 (Link to this contribution) The issue is whether the interventions are successful. I could easily counter the hon. Lady by sayin...
Lord Soames of Fletching | 455 c964-5 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend and I are neighbours and I have discussed the matter with him before, but does he agr...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 455 c963-4 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to the hon. Gentleman. I talked about the police, but I did not mention wardens. I am ha...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 455 c958 (Link to this contribution) I do indeed suggest that serious offenders should go through the court process. They should be prope...
Mary Creagh | 455 c961-2 (Link to this contribution) May I remind the hon. Gentleman that a former leader of his party boasted of drinking 14 pints when ...
Mark Francois | 455 c961 (Link to this contribution) I am following my hon. Friend’s speech with interest. He is speaking very well, if I may say so. In ...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 455 c961 (Link to this contribution) I listened to my hon. Friend’s question with great interest. The chief constable of Essex is a good ...
Robert Goodwill | 455 c960 (Link to this contribution) The non-emergency number in north Yorkshire is 0800 606 0247. Is that not slightly more difficult to...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 455 c960-1 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely impressed that my hon. Friend managed to remember that number. I am tempted to challe...
Speaker | 455 c959 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind the hon. Gentleman about the use of parliamentary language. He has not been in the H...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 455 c959-60 (Link to this contribution) Yes. I apologise, Madam Deputy Speaker, for reading out The Times report of the phrase that was used...
Lindsay Hoyle | 455 c958 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the best way to prevent antisocial behaviour is to have a visible...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 455 c958-9 (Link to this contribution) I strongly agree with the hon. Gentleman, and I shall deal with exactly that point in a moment. A r...
Ann Coffey | 455 c947 (Link to this contribution) It is important to deal with the causes of antisocial behaviour as well as controlling it through an...
Tony McNulty | 455 c950-4 (Link to this contribution) When the report was published on 7 December, I went to the NAO launch event and spoke briefly at it,...
Speaker | 455 c975 (Link to this contribution) Order. Let me intervene to bring an element of calm. The hon. Lady must not say ““you””, because tha...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c976 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a valid point. I repeat that in a free society it is reasonable to have reserva...
Shona McIsaac | 455 c981 (Link to this contribution) I am listening with interest to the hon. Gentleman waxing lyrical about police community support off...
Lindsay Hoyle | 455 c963 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman said that he would return to the point I raised earlier. What are his views? Does...
Mary Creagh | 455 c964 (Link to this contribution) I must take issue with the hon. Gentleman’s point about not intervening in the causes of crime. What...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c980 (Link to this contribution) I am arguing precisely the opposite. The point has also been made in relation to Europe, to which th...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 455 c962-3 (Link to this contribution) As far as I can remember, we supported the alcohol disorder reduction zones, and I debated the issue...
Jeremy Browne | 455 c972-3 (Link to this contribution) Thank you for calling me in this debate, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I propose to talk a little about the sc...
Lord Beamish | 455 c973 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman takes pride in speaking on behalf of his party, will he explain why the Libera...
Lindsay Hoyle | 455 c994 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has developed an interesting point, but although he mentions exceptional housing,...
Subjects
CCTV Crime prevention Alcoholic drinks Anti-social behaviour Housing Drugs Parents Police Motorcycles Police community support officers Young people Young offenders Anti-social behaviour orders Crime and disorder reduction partnerships Acceptable behaviour contracts
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