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Debate on bill on Tuesday, 18 November 2008, in the House of Commons.

Energy Bill

Energy Bill. Ways and Means motion (No 2) that, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Energy Bill, it is expedient to authorise the levying of charges by virtue of the Act by the Gas and Electricity Markets Authority in connection with payments relating to the renewable generation of heat. Agreed to on question. Programme motion (No 2) on consideration of Lords amendments and subsequent stages. Agreed to on question. Lords amendments considered. Lords amendments agreed to. Commons amendments to lords amendments debated and disagreed to. Lords amendment agreed to as amended.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
483 c133-92 
Session
2007-08
Department
Department of Energy and Climate Change
Legislative stage
Lords amendments
Procedure
Programme motions
Ways and means resolutions
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Elliot Morley | 483 c153-4 (Link to this contribution) May I also give my warm support to the introduction of feed-in tariffs? The Government have been bol...
Lord Deben | 483 c155-6 (Link to this contribution) I hope that we are not in danger of sounding churlish to the Minister, as there is no doubt that we ...
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Alan Simpson | 483 c185 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment (a) to the Lords amendment.
Mike Weir | 483 c184-5 (Link to this contribution) I want to make a few brief remarks on this subject. I have had many struggles with Ofgem over the ye...
Martin Horwood | 483 c183-4 (Link to this contribution) We welcome the amendments in general terms, but some aspects of them are a little disappointing. Unl...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c185 (Link to this contribution) I shall respond briefly to the hon. Member for Angus (Mr. Weir), as most of the other comments were ...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c181 (Link to this contribution) I was just about to move on to the hon. Gentleman's concern about transmission grids, but I will giv...
Mike Weir | 483 c181 (Link to this contribution) I always find that the problem with Ofgem is simply that the guiding factor was not necessarily cons...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c181-2 (Link to this contribution) At the time of privatisation, when the rules under which Ofgem operates were set, it was required to...
Charles Hendry | 483 c182-3 (Link to this contribution) We welcome the Government's response to recommendations made over the last few months about Ofgem's ...
Alan Simpson | 483 c180 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the Minister's clarification, because the implications of the words added to Ofgem...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c180-1 (Link to this contribution) That depends how we define radical sea changes. I am sure that Ofgem is aware of the changes. We mee...
Speaker | 483 c135 (Link to this contribution) I must draw the House's attention to the fact that privilege is involved in Lords amendments Nos. 42...
Mike Weir | 483 c155 (Link to this contribution) I accept the spirit of what the hon. Gentleman says; I was not suggesting that we needed to build re...
Alan Simpson | 483 c155 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making an important point, but I hope he will accept that how we tackle the gr...
Mike Weir | 483 c154-5 (Link to this contribution) Along with other hon. Members, I warmly welcome the Lords amendments that bring in the feed-in tarif...
Steve Webb | 483 c152-3 (Link to this contribution) We can certainly learn from what has happened elsewhere, and the examples that the hon. Gentleman ci...
Alan Simpson | 483 c152 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman aware of one way in which other EU partners have begun to address this issue? ...
Steve Webb | 483 c152 (Link to this contribution) I agree that one possibility for the 5 MW threshold is schemes of that kind. However, even if a scho...
David Drew | 483 c152 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman—my neighbour—for giving way. Does he agree that that point is a weakness,...
Steve Webb | 483 c150-1 (Link to this contribution) It would be remiss of me not to add my congratulations to the hon. Member for Nottingham, South (Ala...
Steve Webb | 483 c161-2 (Link to this contribution) I do not understand why the Minister wants to prevent himself from having a power that he might want...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c161 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I can heartily give him such a reassurance, particularly on a da...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c162 (Link to this contribution) Because we need to ensure that we focus on the renewables agenda that we intend this entire legislat...
Alan Simpson | 483 c159 (Link to this contribution) I wholeheartedly agree with the Minister that it is more important to get the scheme right than just...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c159 (Link to this contribution) I would intend to introduce it as soon as possible thereafter. In the event of a delay of a month or...
Paddy Tipping | 483 c161 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for giving way; he is being very amendable to the House. He talked abo...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c159-61 (Link to this contribution) We will certainly look into those issues, but I cannot offer my hon. Friend an assurance on them. I ...
Charles Hendry | 483 c159 (Link to this contribution) The Minister says that he wants the introduction of the scheme to coincide with the start of the fin...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c156-9 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the debate and its positive tone, not least in terms of the praise for the Government and,...
Charles Hendry | 483 c174-6 (Link to this contribution) Between the first and second Divisions, the gap between the Government and us narrowed by three vote...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c173-4 (Link to this contribution) We want to ensure that people are able easily to switch. We do not necessarily want to ensure that a...
Alan Simpson | 483 c163 (Link to this contribution) I speak with some trepidation, but I thank the Minister for the way in which he has responded to the...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c163 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend rightly says that we should praise my hon. Friend the Member for Nottingham, South. H...
Jim Devine | 483 c162 (Link to this contribution) We should place on record our congratulations to my hon. Friend the Member for Nottingham, South (Al...
Mike Weir | 483 c173 (Link to this contribution) Will this allow the Secretary of State to ensure that the same type of smart meter is installed in a...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c171-3 (Link to this contribution) This group of amendments covers the changes made in the other place to a number of issues in the Bil...
Speaker | 483 c171 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to consider Lords amendments Nos. 47 to 53, 58 to 63, 67, 86, 87, 90...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c171 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That this House agrees with the Lords in the said amendment.
Mike O'Brien | 483 c180 (Link to this contribution) It seems to me that the way in which Ofgem was set up gives it quite strong powers. In the past, it ...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c178 (Link to this contribution) I was interested in the opening comment that the hon. Member for Wealden (Charles Hendry) made about...
Speaker | 483 c179 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss Lords amendments Nos. 55 to 57, 64, 66, 72, 76, 78, 95, 9...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c179 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That this House agrees with the Lords in the said amendment.
Brian H Donohoe | 483 c179 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way, before he finishes talking about Ofgem?
Mike O'Brien | 483 c179 (Link to this contribution) This group of amendments covers a large group of areas that the Bill addresses, including: the dutie...
Brian H Donohoe | 483 c180 (Link to this contribution) It is clear in example after example in my constituency that Ofgem is powerless in a number of ways....
Mike O'Brien | 483 c179-80 (Link to this contribution) I have not left the point about Ofgem, but I was going on to the second part of it. I shall make tha...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c136 (Link to this contribution) We took the view that the issue of biofuels was not appropriate for the Bill. The amendments do not ...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c136 (Link to this contribution) In just a moment. Transferring functions in such a way is fully in line with the devolution settlem...
Charles Hendry | 483 c138 (Link to this contribution) I broadly welcome the amendments. We consider that the Bill has improved greatly since it left the H...
Lord Deben | 483 c138-9 (Link to this contribution) I declare an interest, in that I chair a company that advises firms on the provision of renewables a...
Lord Deben | 483 c137 (Link to this contribution) I think that the Minister has mistaken me; I am asking not about biofuels, but about the powers unde...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c137 (Link to this contribution) I will look again at what the right hon. Gentleman is saying to see what has happened, but I am not ...
Speaker | 483 c139 (Link to this contribution) With this we shall consider amendments (b) to (d) and Government amendments (g) and (f) to the Lords...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c139 (Link to this contribution) May I briefly thank the hon. Member for Wealden (Charles Hendry) and the right hon. Member for Suffo...
Alan Simpson | 483 c139 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment (a) to the Lords amendment.
Steve Webb | 483 c133 (Link to this contribution) We are being asked to vote on the Ways and Means resolution on the Energy Bill that provides power f...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c133-4 (Link to this contribution) This is not a blank cheque. The Government have taken the view that the renewable heat incentive ame...
Steve Webb | 483 c134 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister tell me—I may be the only one who does not understand what he is proposing—what so...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c134 (Link to this contribution) Essentially, we would need to look at the payments from some of the fossil fuel generators. They wou...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c135 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That this House agrees with the Lords in the said amendment.
Speaker | 483 c135 (Link to this contribution) With this, it will be convenient to discuss Lords amendments Nos. 2 to 41, 45, 68, 73, 74, 79 to 85,...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c135-6 (Link to this contribution) This group of amendments deals with a number of issues, including carbon capture and storage, the re...
Charles Hendry | 483 c147-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, whose amendment is a beacon of clarity compared with some of th...
Charles Hendry | 483 c145-7 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes a valid point. There is concern that the feed-in tariff could be set at s...
David Drew | 483 c147 (Link to this contribution) When I looked at that argument, I wondered whether it would be appropriate to include the provision ...
Lord Deben | 483 c145 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend says that Government should fix the tariffs; I believe that the experience elsewhere ...
Colin Challen | 483 c150 (Link to this contribution) I completely agree with everything that my hon. Friend says. We want that certainty, and in the near...
Colin Challen | 483 c149 (Link to this contribution) We will, de facto, be operating a feed-in tariff alongside the renewables obligation. Some people wh...
Alan Simpson | 483 c149-50 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend reflect on his own knowledge of how feed-in tariff schemes operate in other part...
Colin Challen | 483 c148-9 (Link to this contribution) I should like to add my tributes to those that have already been made. I pay tribute to my hon. Frie...
Alan Simpson | 483 c139-40 (Link to this contribution) I shall also speak to amendments (b) to (d) and Government amendment (g). Let me begin by taking th...
Bob Spink | 483 c140 (Link to this contribution) May I join in the tributes the hon. Gentleman is paying to the various bodies and the cross-party su...
Alan Simpson | 483 c140 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right, and his comments allow me to come to the final part of my tributes to t...
Martin Horwood | 483 c140 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is perhaps being too modest in underestimating his role in shifting the balance o...
Lord Deben | 483 c144 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend might like to cast his mind back to the time of the packaging directive. Members of t...
Charles Hendry | 483 c144-5 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes a valid point. Clearly, if the people involved in the consultation are no...
Alan Simpson | 483 c140-1 (Link to this contribution) I always thought that we could get majority support, and it is great that we are moving collectively...
Graham Stuart | 483 c141 (Link to this contribution) We are a nation of inventors, and I wonder whether, like me, the hon. Gentleman is excited at the pr...
Alan Simpson | 483 c141-3 (Link to this contribution) I share that excitement, but I want to repatriate some of our inventiveness. This country has some o...
Charles Hendry | 483 c143-4 (Link to this contribution) May I congratulate the hon. Member for Nottingham, South (Alan Simpson) on the work that he has done...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c191 (Link to this contribution) I am tempted by that suggestion, but I would want to be a little cautious about it. The hon. Gentlem...
Alan Simpson | 483 c191-2 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the Minister's declaration of his intention to come back with an outline of a scheme in th...
Martin Horwood | 483 c190-1 (Link to this contribution) The Minister accepted earlier that it might be necessary to accelerate rules on smart meters in rela...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c190 (Link to this contribution) I am very conscious of the time, but I will give way briefly.
Speaker | 483 c186 (Link to this contribution) With this we may discuss Lords amendments Nos. 70, 77 and 105.
Alan Simpson | 483 c186-7 (Link to this contribution) Lords amendment No. 65 is decidedly good news and amendment (a) simply seeks to put a time frame aro...
Mike Weir | 483 c189 (Link to this contribution) This is a strange moment for me. I warmly welcome the amendment, not least because on the one occasi...
Mike O'Brien | 483 c189-90 (Link to this contribution) As the House knows, an amendment that we tabled in the other place enables the Secretary of State to...
Charles Hendry | 483 c187-8 (Link to this contribution) I associate myself very much with the remarks that we have just heard from the hon. Member for Notti...
Steve Webb | 483 c188-9 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the inclusion in the Bill of the renewable heat incentive and support amendment (a), which...
Martin Horwood | 483 c176-7 (Link to this contribution) It is the first time that I have spoken in today's debate, so, first, I congratulate the Department ...
Lord Deben | 483 c136 (Link to this contribution) Why did the Minister not take the opportunity to correct the mistake relating to the renewables obli...
Paddy Tipping | 483 c149 (Link to this contribution) I am anxious about my hon. Friend's comment. The renewables obligation has served us well in many re...
Subjects
Access Devolved matters Consumers Decommissioning Combined heat and power Carbon dioxide Biofuels Carbon capture and storage Fees and charges Licensing Energy Electricity generation Ofgem Insolvency Heating Electric cables Oil Payments Natural gas Nuclear power Offshore structures Nuclear power stations Meters Microgeneration Rural areas Scotland Renewable energy Wind power Feed-in tariffs Renewables obligation National grid
Legislation
Energy Bill 2007-08
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