Debate on bill on Monday, 21 April 2008, in the House of Commons, led by Yvette Cooper. The answering member was Lord Hammond of Runnymede.
Finance Bill
Finance Bill. Second reading debate. Agreed to on division (298 votes to 223). Ordered that Clauses 3, 5, 6, 15, 21, 49, 90 and 117 and new Clauses amending section 74 of the Finance Act 2003 be committed to a Committee of the whole House; that the remainder of the Bill be committed to a Public Bill Committee; that when the provisions of the Bill considered by the Committee of the whole House and the Public Bill Committee have been reported to the House, the Bill be proceeded with as if it had been reported as a whole to the House from the Public Bill Committee. Ordered that the Finance Bill Committee shall have leave to sit twice on the first day on which it meets.
Secondary information
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- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 474 c1064-158
- Session
- 2007-08
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- Treasury
- Legislative stage
- Second reading
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Commons chamber
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Finance Bill. In two volumes. Volume I (Clauses and Schedules 1 to 7). Volume II (Schedules 8 to 46). Explanatory Notes also published, in 4 volumes.
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Ways and Means Financial Statement
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The 2008 Budget. Treasury Select Committee ninth report with proceedings, evidence (HC 430 i-iii not printed separately) and appendices.
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Parliamentary committees
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- Proceeding contributions
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Philip Dunne | 474 c1087 (Link to this contribution) On tax credits, especially the marginal deductions for those who are seeking to get back into work a...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 474 c1087 (Link to this contribution) I agree that that is a good concept. However, we are not nearly there at the moment and we must work...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 474 c1087 (Link to this contribution) According to the ombudsman, Britain is alone in having three different Departments that provide bene...
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Russell Brown | 474 c1086 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that although the tax credit system has been a boost to the incomes ...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 474 c1086-7 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right, but the Government have to be lauded for their intentions. Previously, we h...
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Lord Redwood | 474 c1086 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that if we add the unfunded pension liabilities, the PFI and PPP...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 474 c1086 (Link to this contribution) As the right hon. Gentleman knows, the Treasury Committee comprises members of all parties—his own, ...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1083-5 (Link to this contribution) No, I am going to make some progress because I have already been speaking for half an hour. ““Watch...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 474 c1085 (Link to this contribution) It is traditional for a Treasury Committee report to be tagged for debate on the Second Reading of t...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 474 c1087-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is a good and hard-working member of my Committee, but on the marginal rates of t...
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Eric Illsley | 474 c1089 (Link to this contribution) Over the past hour or so, my right hon. Friend has made the Government the offer that his Committee ...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 474 c1089 (Link to this contribution) I would be pleased to return to that issue as quickly as possible. As I have mentioned, the Treasury...
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Lord Mann | 474 c1089 (Link to this contribution) That figure was given to the Treasury Committee last year by Mr. Chote. He also said that the figure...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 474 c1089 (Link to this contribution) No, 5.3 million is still the figure. I mentioned the winners and the losers. There are ups and downs...
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Betty Williams | 474 c1088 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that the media's claims that Labour Back Benchers have been silent o...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 474 c1089 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend rightly talks about winners and losers. Would it not simplify the situation if ...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 474 c1089 (Link to this contribution) That is another of my hon. Friend's long-term objectives.
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1082 (Link to this contribution) Procedurally, the hon. Gentleman is wrong; only Ministers of the Crown can put forward the type of a...
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Lord Mann | 474 c1082 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman's party leader disagrees with him; his party leader says that it is for the House...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1082 (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, the hon. Gentleman has reservations about the policy put forward by the Governme...
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Lord Mann | 474 c1081 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is very precise in trying to outline the problem. Will he be equally precise in o...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1081 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman signed one of the earlier early-day motions, I assume—
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Lord Mann | 474 c1082 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is now becoming inaccurate. Will he be quite precise about his remedy for the pro...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1082 (Link to this contribution) I give way to the hon. Gentleman.
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1083 (Link to this contribution) Let us get back to where we are now.
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Speaker | 474 c1083 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is an experienced Member. Whether she has recently read ““Erskine May”” or not, I am s...
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Stephen Hesford | 474 c1083 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1082 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way to the hon. Gentleman again. I have given way to him three times in a row. We ar...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1083 (Link to this contribution) I shall make a little progress, but I will take further interventions in a moment.
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Lord Mann | 474 c1083 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. For the sake of clarity, may I ask whether it would be in...
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Speaker | 474 c1083 (Link to this contribution) That would depend entirely on the wording of the amendment. The Table Office would give advice to an...
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Mark Hendrick | 474 c1083 (Link to this contribution) Further to that point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Would it be in order for the Opposition to tab...
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Speaker | 474 c1083 (Link to this contribution) I repeat what I have just said. I cannot make a ruling on an amendment that is not before me. I have...
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Baroness Browning | 474 c1083 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Will you advise me? It is a long time since I have read “...
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Pete Wishart | 474 c1090 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman said that he was looking for a solution to the issue of the 10p rate. Surel...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 474 c1090 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely not. We are on the park all the time. As I said, the Treasury Select Committee has been o...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1090 (Link to this contribution) Many football fans get frustrated with supporters who turn up only when their team is winning. Does ...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 474 c1090 (Link to this contribution) I said that I was going to make a short speech, but the record will show that the interventions have...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 474 c1091-2 (Link to this contribution) I shall refer again to John Whiting of PricewaterhouseCoopers, who has highlighted this point. In hi...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1091 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman talks to the same kind of people as I do, and I am sure he will have heard ...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 474 c1090-1 (Link to this contribution) That is utter nonsense. The fact is that 21 million people—four out of five people—will gain from th...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 474 c1089-90 (Link to this contribution) There are in fact figures. I do not want to go through them tonight, but let me give my hon. Friend ...
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Lord Mann | 474 c1089 (Link to this contribution) I thank my right hon. Friend for giving way again. I was not trying to minimise the issue for the lo...
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Rob Marris | 474 c1093-4 (Link to this contribution) May I suggest that the hon. Gentleman is simply in the position of not sharing the Government's visi...
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Jeremy Browne | 474 c1094 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention. I would not disagree that there is a list of Government policie...
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Speaker | 474 c1094 (Link to this contribution) Order. That is sufficient for the time being.
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Jeremy Browne | 474 c1094 (Link to this contribution) We ““Brownes”” must stick together to ensure that the main ““Brown”” is put in his place. [Interrupt...
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Russell Brown | 474 c1094 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Gentleman should not read too much into the number of Members who have signed early...
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Russell Brown | 474 c1094 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman hangs around and I manage to catch Mr. Deputy Speaker's eye, he may well hear ...
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Jeremy Browne | 474 c1092-3 (Link to this contribution) There are two main ways in which a Member of this House can judge a Finance Bill, a Budget or, for t...
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Jeremy Browne | 474 c1093 (Link to this contribution) I did not claim in my opening remarks that the Government had done nothing at all; I said rather tha...
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Stephen Hesford | 474 c1093 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is talking about vision, so has he not heard of the Climate Change Bill, which is...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1080-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has had enough of a turn today. He needs to scuttle back to No. 10. I hope that t...
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Lord Austin of Dudley | 474 c1080 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1081 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that on this occasion the hon. Gentleman has not done his research. The 5.3 million figu...
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Rob Marris | 474 c1081 (Link to this contribution) indicated dissent.
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1081 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, South-West (Rob Marris), but I will get my bon...
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Rob Marris | 474 c1081 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will, of course, be aware of the question that I asked my right hon. Friend the C...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1081 (Link to this contribution) It is no good the hon. Gentleman's saying that it is not; it is a net figure. What is more, Treasury...
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Linda Gilroy | 474 c1078 (Link to this contribution) I am following the hon. Gentleman's remarks with great interest. Can he tell my constituents, some o...
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Gordon Prentice | 474 c1079 (Link to this contribution) Given that there will undoubtedly be losers as a result of the abolition of the 10p rate, what would...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1079 (Link to this contribution) I am glad to note that the hon. Gentleman was one of the signatories of the early-day motion, and I ...
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Peter Bottomley | 474 c1079 (Link to this contribution) I had three messages today. One was from someone whose son had become ill and she wonders how she wi...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1079 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with my hon. Friend's sentiments. My inbox has been jammed with e-mails and my post...
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Baroness Browning | 474 c1079 (Link to this contribution) Is the situation not ironic whenever the Government foul up? I can only think that the impact of the...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1074-5 (Link to this contribution) This Finance Bill is introduced against a backdrop of unprecedented uncertainty facing the British e...
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Lord Redwood | 474 c1075-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a very powerful case. Is it not even odder that the people who are going to...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1076 (Link to this contribution) That is what makes the timing of this all the more poignant, and I suspect that that double whammy h...
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Russell Brown | 474 c1076 (Link to this contribution) Can the hon. Gentleman explain to the House why members of his party sat on their hands when an amen...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1076 (Link to this contribution) We identified this problem in the 2007 Budget within an hour of the then Chancellor sitting down, an...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1073 (Link to this contribution) Next year's Budget will also be the first to set out carbon budgets for the nation, following the im...
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Lord McFall of Alcluith | 474 c1073-4 (Link to this contribution) As the Chief Secretary knows, it was the Treasury Committee that recognised that the 10p tax rate wi...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1074 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend knows that I respect immensely the work that he and his Committee have done. We...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1078 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to do so. I was to address precisely that point later in my speech, but I shall give the ...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1077 (Link to this contribution) It seems that the Prime Minister's Parliamentary Private Secretary is trying to invent a new constit...
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David Leslie Taylor | 474 c1077-8 (Link to this contribution) I stand second to none in having great reservations about the loss of the 10 per cent. rate, which i...
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Lord Austin of Dudley | 474 c1076 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman expects anybody to take seriously his new-found concern for the poor and low p...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1076 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate that the hon. Gentleman may be the only Parliamentary Private Secretary left in the Gov...
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Lord Austin of Dudley | 474 c1077 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Could you reiterate the answer that you gave to the Oppos...
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Speaker | 474 c1077 (Link to this contribution) I have indeed repeated this on more than one occasion, but I will do so again. It is up to every ind...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1077 (Link to this contribution) If I may, I shall press on. Once again, the man who likes to boast of his long-termism demonstrated...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1066-7 (Link to this contribution) I welcome my right hon. Friend's support for the overall Budget and the fact that he is not asking t...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1064-6 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. The Finance Bill implements measures from t...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1066 (Link to this contribution) As the right hon. Lady has already cited the Institute for Fiscal Studies, will she remind the House...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1066 (Link to this contribution) We have set out the figures. Four out of five households will be better off or see no change. One in...
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David Chaytor | 474 c1068 (Link to this contribution) While I fully accept and welcome the many positive proposals in the Budget, does the Minister accept...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1068 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the Chief Secretary for giving way. Further to the question from the hon....
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1068 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, those figures have been published as part of parliamentary answers, but I say again that the...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1067-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend raises the important issue of young people, for whom the changes in the minimum wage ...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1068 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to many hon. Members.
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Linda Gilroy | 474 c1067 (Link to this contribution) Nowhere more than Plymouth appreciates the importance of the economic stability that my right hon. F...
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Speaker | 474 c1069 (Link to this contribution) Order. I wonder whether the Minister would mind speaking into the microphone. The Hansard writers wo...
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George Mudie | 474 c1069 (Link to this contribution) I wish the Minister to see whether we can have a figure, even if it confirms the 5.3 million. That w...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1069 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point, as the figure changes all the time because people's income ...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1068 (Link to this contribution) As I have just said, interestingly, the figures show that around half those who are paying more as p...
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John Bercow | 474 c1068 (Link to this contribution) The Chief Secretary has referred to the practical difficulties of making tax changes when the tax co...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1068-9 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate the fact that the hon. Gentleman recognises the increases in the minimum wage that have...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1070 (Link to this contribution) Many of those families will be about £500 a year better off than they would have been under the tax ...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1069 (Link to this contribution) I apologise, Madam Deputy Speaker. My hon. Friend the Member for Leeds, East (Mr. Mudie) will also ...
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Baroness Browning | 474 c1069 (Link to this contribution) At the beginning of March, I exchanged correspondence with the Financial Secretary to the Treasury a...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1069 (Link to this contribution) I will take two more interventions. I hope that Members will appreciate that I must then continue my...
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Jim Cousins | 474 c1070 (Link to this contribution) I understand that my right hon. Friend is trying to help the House, but does she accept that there a...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1069-70 (Link to this contribution) The work of the former Chancellor, and that of the current Chancellor, has strongly supported pensio...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1070 (Link to this contribution) I have already taken a large number of interventions, and I want to make some further points. These...
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Speaker | 474 c1070 (Link to this contribution) I can certainly confirm that the debate can continue until any hour, but it is entirely up to the Mi...
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Peter Bottomley | 474 c1071 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Is it in order for an ambiguous remark to be made that co...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1070-1 (Link to this contribution) I believe that the right hon. Member for West Derbyshire (Mr. McLoughlin) is one of the few Members ...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1071 (Link to this contribution) Overall, the lowest-income families are benefiting by literally thousands of pounds a year as a resu...
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Speaker | 474 c1071 (Link to this contribution) That is not a point of order; it is a matter for debate.
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Philip Dunne | 474 c1072 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Chief Secretary for finally giving way. She has now mentioned the winter fuel p...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1072 (Link to this contribution) I will if the hon. Gentleman can tell me why his party is opposing the increase in alcohol duty in o...
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Philip Dunne | 474 c1072 (Link to this contribution) Will the Chief Secretary give way?
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1072 (Link to this contribution) I say again to my right hon. Friend that the distribution of households that are paying more is rath...
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Lord Field of Birkenhead | 474 c1072 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to my right hon. Friend for giving way and pleased that she is making the point t...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1071-2 (Link to this contribution) Since when have the Opposition cared about those on low incomes? Since when have they cared about th...
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Speaker | 474 c1071 (Link to this contribution) Order. I call Yvette Cooper.
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1072 (Link to this contribution) The Budget clearly sets out that we are paying for the winter fuel payment and also for the child be...
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Rob Marris | 474 c1073 (Link to this contribution) I entirely understand the Government's position that such matters have to be looked at in the round,...
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Speaker | 474 c1073 (Link to this contribution) That is not a point of order for the Chair. I have said this before, and I now repeat it: it is up t...
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Linda Gilroy | 474 c1073 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1073 (Link to this contribution) The figures change, but we have set them out in parliamentary answers and they are that four out of ...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1073 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Is it in order for the Chief Secretary to promise to take...
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Yvette Cooper | 474 c1073 (Link to this contribution) I have given way many times. The Finance Bill also makes changes to allow people who stay in this co...
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Lord Soames of Fletching | 474 c1154 (Link to this contribution) May I congratulate the right hon. Lady on her magnificent speech? Would she be good enough to tell t...
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Lord Soames of Fletching | 474 c1154 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Lady give way?
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Jane Kennedy | 474 c1153 (Link to this contribution) I am not going to give way to the hon. Gentleman again. In last year's Finance Bill debate, on 30 A...
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Jane Kennedy | 474 c1153 (Link to this contribution) No, I do not accept the figure that the hon. Gentleman is offering. I have said that I do not recogn...
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Jane Kennedy | 474 c1153 (Link to this contribution) I listened carefully to the contribution that the hon. Gentleman made earlier, but I did not hear wh...
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Greg Clark | 474 c1153 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister aware that the abolition of the 10p rate will put another 300,000 people in poverty?...
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Jane Kennedy | 474 c1152-3 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman is as committed to eradicating poverty as he claims, I would have hoped that h...
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Jane Kennedy | 474 c1153 (Link to this contribution) I will of course give way, but hon. Members do not have to shout in order to make their point.
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Greg Clark | 474 c1153 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister confirm that, as a result of the abolition of the 10p rate, 300,000 more people wi...
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Jane Kennedy | 474 c1152 (Link to this contribution) I will give way in just one moment. We have of course carefully considered the impacts of the packa...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1152 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the Minister, who was partly gracious in her answer. It is not empty vess...
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Jane Kennedy | 474 c1152 (Link to this contribution) Hon. Members who have just come into the debate might want to give me one more minute. We cannot ta...
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Jane Kennedy | 474 c1150-1 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to bring to a close the Second Reading on this year's Finance Bill, and I thank all...
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Mark Hoban | 474 c1150 (Link to this contribution) I would have expected the hon. Gentleman, for whom I have a great deal of respect, to come up with a...
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Rob Marris | 474 c1149 (Link to this contribution) Several of us have raised this very issue with the Government for the past 12 months. The hon. Gentl...
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Mark Hoban | 474 c1149 (Link to this contribution) I gave the Prime Minister's PPS the opportunity to speak—I think he is the first Prime Minister's PP...
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Jane Kennedy | 474 c1151 (Link to this contribution) Whenever I see the hon. Gentleman bouncing up and down, I think of the old adage that empty vessels ...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1151 (Link to this contribution) Will the Financial Secretary give way?
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Lord Austin of Dudley | 474 c1148-9 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way. Instead of the pathetic, schoolboy, debatin...
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Speaker | 474 c1149 (Link to this contribution) Order. Perhaps the hon. Gentleman can write to the hon. Member, because his intervention is too long...
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Mark Hoban | 474 c1146-7 (Link to this contribution) This has been an important debate. Before I turn to the substance of my remarks, I want to comment o...
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Greg Clark | 474 c1146 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman's constituents in Luton will be delighted that he has chosen a debate on a practi...
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Mark Hoban | 474 c1147 (Link to this contribution) Some say that it was a mishap. I asked the hon. Member for Dumfries and Galloway (Mr. Brown) whether...
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Anne Main | 474 c1147 (Link to this contribution) It was a mishap.
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Lynne Jones | 474 c1147 (Link to this contribution) In fact, I addressed that issue in my speech on Budget day 2007; I suggest that the hon. Gentleman r...
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Mark Hoban | 474 c1147-8 (Link to this contribution) Given that the hon. Lady says that I should refer to the speech that she made in 2007, she might wis...
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Speaker | 474 c1147 (Link to this contribution) Order. Interventions should be short.
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Greg Clark | 474 c1145 (Link to this contribution) Last night, I received an e-mail from one of my constituents, who said:"““I am one of the unfortunat...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 474 c1145 (Link to this contribution) Can the hon. Gentleman remind me which Government raised VAT—a regressive tax—from 8 per cent. to 17...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1137-8 (Link to this contribution) Like a minority of his colleagues on the Labour Benches, but none the less too many, the hon. Gentle...
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Michael Jabez Foster | 474 c1137 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman's concern for the poor is touching, but when did the Tory party decide not to inv...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1138 (Link to this contribution) One of the great dangers in political life is that, when one repeats a mantra often enough, one star...
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Anne Main | 474 c1140 (Link to this contribution) Would my hon. Friend like to pick up on the remarks made by the right hon. Member for Oldham, West a...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1139-40 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is of course absolutely right. So little of the benefits of job creation over the pas...
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Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 474 c1139 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for giving way. Does he share my concern at the lack of the Government's cont...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1140 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. Almost every contribution from a Labour Member contained two themes. One is...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1141;474 (Not in Bound Volume) (Link to this contribution) Or indeed mishap. We have not heard a proper explanation, but perhaps the Minister will be able to g...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1141 (Link to this contribution) I shall now come to a conclusion. This Budget hits ordinary families up and down the country—people...
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Adam Holloway | 474 c1143-4 (Link to this contribution) My constituency has many low-income families and the focus of my concern is the tax credit system th...
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David Chaytor | 474 c1141-3 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Beverley and Holderness (Mr. Stuart), although I was ...
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Joan Walley | 474 c1144-5 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to take two minutes to make a specific point that relates to my co...
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Stephen Hesford | 474 c1123-4 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has made his point. In the article to which I referred, the hon. Member for Tatt...
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Brian Binley | 474 c1124 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman saying that if a Government cannot take responsibility for global situations i...
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Stephen Hesford | 474 c1125-6 (Link to this contribution) Of course it is uncomfortable, but a Lord Lamont-style rant, which talks down the situation for poli...
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Stewart Hosie | 474 c1126-9 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to follow the hon. Member for Wirral, West (Stephen Hesford), who provided a cheery, up...
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Stephen Hesford | 474 c1124-5 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman's memory is short. During the 10 years that my right hon. Friend the Prime Minist...
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Brian Binley | 474 c1130 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that, while UK plc will gain from those investment benefits, most smal...
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Stewart Hosie | 474 c1129-30 (Link to this contribution) May I remind the hon. Gentleman, who has only just come into the Chamber, that the cumulative debt h...
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Michael Jabez Foster | 474 c1129 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman may or may not be right about the current level of borrowing. He has already list...
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Stewart Hosie | 474 c1130 (Link to this contribution) That is absolutely right, and the same argument applies to the new annual allowance. That is why we ...
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Michael Connarty | 474 c1130 (Link to this contribution) I think that the hon. Gentleman will be pleased that he has given way to me, because I entirely supp...
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Stewart Hosie | 474 c1131 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right about the supersized wine goblets. I have seen them, and I be...
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Angus Brendan MacNeil | 474 c1131 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will be aware of fuel price inflation in my constituency, as my constituents probably...
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Stewart Hosie | 474 c1131 (Link to this contribution) It is utterly unsustainable for people in my hon. Friend's constituency and in other remote rural ar...
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Jim McGovern | 474 c1132 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that as a result of the aspirations of the Scottish National party fo...
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Jim McGovern | 474 c1132 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the hon. Gentleman will be aware that the Scotland Act 1998 allows for income tax rai...
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Stewart Hosie | 474 c1132 (Link to this contribution) I recognise that abolishing the council tax would bring about not only a redistribution, but the lar...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1133 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
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Mark Hoban | 474 c1133 (Link to this contribution) I wish to ask the right hon. Gentleman a question. If he dismisses the arguments made by my right ho...
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Michael Meacher | 474 c1133 (Link to this contribution) I do not subscribe to any of the theories that have been pumped out from the Opposition Benches. The...
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Michael Meacher | 474 c1133 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman wishes to defend his former leader.
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Michael Meacher | 474 c1132-3 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Dundee, East (Stewart Hosie) made several telling comments across the range of f...
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Mark Hoban | 474 c1133 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
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Stewart Hosie | 474 c1132 (Link to this contribution) That amounts to another one of those situations that Labour Members are keen to use: they create a p...
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Michael Meacher | 474 c1133 (Link to this contribution) I have only just started my speech. The hon. Gentleman likes to bounce up and down, and I will give ...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1137 (Link to this contribution) I will do so shortly. We were told in 1997 that things could only get better. The incoming Labour G...
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David Chaytor | 474 c1137 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1137 (Link to this contribution) In a moment, after I have made a little more progress. The Labour Government could, therefore, fair...
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Michael Connarty | 474 c1134 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Beverley and Holderness (Mr. Stuart) pointed to the fact that many single workin...
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Michael Meacher | 474 c1134-6 (Link to this contribution) I have always been a supporter of the national minimum wage. Fifteen or 20 years ago, when I was a B...
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Michael Jabez Foster | 474 c1137 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Michael Meacher | 474 c1134 (Link to this contribution) What I am saying is that the incomes of the poorest tenth—the lowest decile—in society have improved...
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Speaker | 474 c1112 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before I call the next speaker, may I say to the House that although we have a reasonable amo...
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Lord Brady of Altrincham | 474 c1112 (Link to this contribution) I shall try not to speak for an unlimited period of time, Mr. Deputy Speaker, in deference to the Ho...
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Eric Illsley | 474 c1111-2 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right to say that that very technical issue would not require a derogation, be...
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Eric Illsley | 474 c1108-11 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that and yes, I do agree with him. Attempts have been made t...
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Brian Binley | 474 c1108 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted with the terms of the hon. Gentleman's argument and he is making a very valid point, ...
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Eric Illsley | 474 c1107-8 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. and learned Member for Folkestone and Hythe (Mr. Howard), ...
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Lord Howard of Lympne | 474 c1105-7 (Link to this contribution) Despite the strictures of the hon. Member for Middlesbrough (Sir Stuart Bell), whom it is always a p...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1104 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way again. No other countries are putting taxes up at...
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Stuart Bell | 474 c1104 (Link to this contribution) Clearly, rising food and fuel prices will trouble the economy, and the Government must look at those...
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Jeremy Browne | 474 c1100-1 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for your guidance, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Everything that has been said by my hon. Frien...
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Stuart Bell | 474 c1101-3 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Taunton (Mr. Browne). He reminds me of a former Membe...
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Stuart Bell | 474 c1104 (Link to this contribution) It would be a great help if the Conservatives were to match our commitment on child poverty. The poi...
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Rob Marris | 474 c1100 (Link to this contribution) Talking of purges, the hon. Member for Falmouth and Camborne (Julia Goldsworthy) has been purged ove...
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Speaker | 474 c1100 (Link to this contribution) Order. This is a Second Reading debate and a fair amount of latitude is allowed, but I remind the ho...
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Stephen Hesford | 474 c1122-3 (Link to this contribution) I would categorise the position of the official Opposition as follows: opportunistic, contradictory ...
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Colin Breed | 474 c1123 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman saying that it was perhaps a mistake to announce such a radical change to the ...
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Russell Brown | 474 c1119 (Link to this contribution) No, I am not giving up. The comments made have been to the effect that the issue can be reviewed and...
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Brian Binley | 474 c1120-2 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Dumfries and Galloway (Mr. Brown), who always speaks ...
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Russell Brown | 474 c1119 (Link to this contribution) I am not saying that at all, and the hon. Gentleman should know better than to try to put words into...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1119 (Link to this contribution) Just to be clear, is the hon. Gentleman saying that the only excuse that he can think of is the inco...
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Mark Hoban | 474 c1119 (Link to this contribution) He is giving up.
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Russell Brown | 474 c1119 (Link to this contribution) I am not convinced that the hon. Gentleman is right. We have to look. Undoubtedly, there were a numb...
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Mark Hoban | 474 c1119 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman was not able to explain why the former Chancellor made the change, and he ruled o...
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Russell Brown | 474 c1116-7 (Link to this contribution) I agree wholeheartedly with my right hon. Friend. I thought that we were at a stage in this House wh...
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Lord Brady of Altrincham | 474 c1117 (Link to this contribution) On that point, does the hon. Gentleman agree that if oil continues to increase in value in the way t...
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Russell Brown | 474 c1117-9 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. The current and the previous Chancellor have obviou...
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Mark Hoban | 474 c1119 (Link to this contribution) Given that the Treasury knew at the time of the previous Budget that 5.3 million households would be...
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Russell Brown | 474 c1119 (Link to this contribution) I was about to come to a point that may provide the hon. Gentleman with some answer. I am not absolu...
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Lord Brady of Altrincham | 474 c1113-5 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the former chairman of the Altrincham constituency Labour party for making that poi...
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Stephen Hesford | 474 c1112 (Link to this contribution) Unless I have completely missed something, was not the theme the credit crunch and the need for stab...
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Elliot Morley | 474 c1116 (Link to this contribution) Is it not also the case that it undermines the Conservatives' green claims to vote against VED chang...
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Russell Brown | 474 c1115-6 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Altrincham and Sale, West (Mr. Brady). The top prior...
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Jeremy Browne | 474 c1096-7 (Link to this contribution) I did, although he chose to relinquish his post. However, it reflects well on our party that we have...
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Brian Binley | 474 c1096 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way, because I wonder whether he can explain why...
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Jeremy Browne | 474 c1096 (Link to this contribution) If the Conservatives cannot stand the relative heat of being a smaller Opposition than Michael Foot ...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1095 (Link to this contribution) Just for the record, there is also a difference between having to respond to the Chancellor from the...
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Jeremy Browne | 474 c1095 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention, which brings me perfectly to the next speech that was delivered...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1095 (Link to this contribution) Just for the record, the reason my right hon. Friend the Member for Witney (Mr. Cameron) did not not...
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Jeremy Browne | 474 c1094-5 (Link to this contribution) That sounds a tantalising prospect. The next four hours will fly by. I remember that, on 21 March 2...
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Jeremy Browne | 474 c1100 (Link to this contribution) That is an intelligent intervention. The answer is that we shall see at the time—[Interruption.] Let...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1099 (Link to this contribution) What about first-time buyers?
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Jeremy Browne | 474 c1099 (Link to this contribution) —were people who owned houses worth around £990,000 to £995,000 and had paid off their mortgages. Th...
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Stewart Hosie | 474 c1099 (Link to this contribution) I intervene only for the sake of clarity. I am quite enjoying the hon. Gentleman's speech. Can he te...
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Jeremy Browne | 474 c1099 (Link to this contribution) Many members of the shadow Cabinet bought their first house for about £1 million, but they are not e...
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Russell Brown | 474 c1098 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way once again. If Labour Members are looking for some kind of...
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Jeremy Browne | 474 c1098 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to go too far off the beaten track, but the point that we have consistently made, and ...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1099 (Link to this contribution) First-time buyers?
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Jeremy Browne | 474 c1098-9 (Link to this contribution) I am again grateful for an extremely helpful intervention, because it is my party's policy to reduce...
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Rob Marris | 474 c1097 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his generosity in giving way. I am a PPS and I have expresse...
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Stewart Hosie | 474 c1111 (Link to this contribution) I know that one of the arguments has been that the removal of VAT might require a derogation from th...
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Jane Kennedy | 474 c1154 (Link to this contribution) I do not accept the proposition—[Interruption.] It is always a pleasure to welcome the hon. Gentlema...
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Jane Kennedy | 474 c1154 (Link to this contribution) I cannot refuse.
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1138-9 (Link to this contribution) If I may, I shall make a little more progress before I give way to my hon. Friend, who I know will h...
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Brian Binley | 474 c1125 (Link to this contribution) I would love to. I thank the hon. Gentleman but, with respect, ““hopefully”” is simply not good enou...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1103-4 (Link to this contribution) The Government set the target of halving child poverty by 2010-11. The Treasury Committee has said t...
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Lord McLoughlin | 474 c1070 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Can you confirm that the debate can continue until any ho...
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Michael Connarty | 474 c1138 (Link to this contribution) I am listening to all the allocations suggested by Conservative Members of tax cuts here and tax cut...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1079-80 (Link to this contribution) I must tell my hon. Friend—I think I have already said this—that I do not think that it was a foul-u...
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Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 474 c1078-9 (Link to this contribution) I would stop short of calling it a religion. A theme is developing, because the only way that the Go...
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Lord Field of Birkenhead | 474 c1066 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend accept that Labour Members in general fully support the Budget and the dir...
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Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 474 c1138 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way?
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1136-7 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Oldham, West and Royton (Mr. Meacher). He...
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Graham Stuart | 474 c1133-4 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for giving way. He suggests that everyone has be...
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