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Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Tuesday, 21 April 2009, in the House of Lords.

Marine and Coastal Access Bill [HL]

Marine and Coastal Access Bill (HL). Lords Committee stage eleventh day. Clauses 287 to 315 agreed to, with clauses 288, 300, 304, 306 and 313 agreed to as amended. Schedule 19 agreed to. Schedules 20 and 21 agreed to as amended. Bill reported with amendments (HL Bill 38).

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
709 c1370-431,1441-92 
Session
2008-09
Department
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
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Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
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House of Lords chamber
Related items
Marine and Coastal Access Bill. As amended in Committee.
Tuesday, 21 April 2009
Bills
House of Lords
Energy Act 2008
Wednesday, 26 November 2008
Public acts
Proceeding contributions
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1370 (Link to this contribution) Clause 287: General provision about the coastal access duty Amendment A282ZA A282ZA: Clause 287, p...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 709 c1373 (Link to this contribution) I support these amendments. My experience is that in these situations personal relations matter more...
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Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1373-4 (Link to this contribution) This debate is a helpful introduction to, one hopes, our final day in Committee on the Bill. I agree...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1370-2 (Link to this contribution) I am reluctant to delay proceedings as I know it is the wish of the usual channels that we conclude ...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1372-3 (Link to this contribution) We have the second amendment in this group, Amendment A324. The underlying ethos behind it is, I thi...
Baroness Hayman | 709 c1375 (Link to this contribution) If this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments A282B and A282C by reason of pre-emption.
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1375-6 (Link to this contribution) This is not an inadvertent error by the Government—as if anyone could conceive of such a thing. Ther...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1376 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for explaining the Government’s thinking on this matter. It struck us ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1374 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A282A A282A: Clause 287, page 175, line 4, leave out subsection (4) and insert— "(4) Refe...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1374-5 (Link to this contribution) In moving Amendment A282A, I shall also speak to the other amendments in the group. The amendments s...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1377-8 (Link to this contribution) I will also speak to Amendments A286, A287, A289. A290, A291, A293, A294, A295, A296, A297 and A299,...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1378-9 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Greaves, is correct. This is a long and complex group of amendments but it is d...
Baroness Byford | 709 c1379 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for my late arrival; unfortunately, I could not get here earlier. My Amendment A289A is...
Duke of Montrose | 709 c1392 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the noble Lord will respond to my question. Would it not be better for dog owners if the leg...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1390-2 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, for his interesting amendments. He has introduced a ver...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 709 c1389 (Link to this contribution) I see what the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, is getting at. This is an important example of the benefit ...
Duke of Montrose | 709 c1388-9 (Link to this contribution) Speaking on behalf of my noble friend Lord Taylor, I believe it is quite a good moment for the noble...
Lord Tyler | 709 c1387-8 (Link to this contribution) In moving Amendment A302 I shall refer to Amendment A363, which relates to the same issue, and make ...
Lord Tyler | 709 c1387 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A302 A302: Clause 288, page 175, line 35, at end insert— "(10) The scheme shall make prov...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1386 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for his careful response. I want to make two points. On my point about...
Lord Tyler | 709 c1393-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for that full response. I should perhaps put on the record the fact th...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1394 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A304 A304: Clause 289, page 175, line 40, leave out "At least one" and insert "The first"...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1392-3 (Link to this contribution) I agree with that, although I suppose the issue we face is that we are bringing a Bill before Parlia...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1398-400 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this interesting debate for the extent to which ...
Baroness Byford | 709 c1398 (Link to this contribution) Briefly, I support my noble friend’s Amendment A357B on changes in land use. The noble Lord, Lord Ca...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 709 c1400 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord sits down, he gave a rather encouraging response on Amendments A353 and A357B....
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1396 (Link to this contribution) I think all parties are agreed that it is important to have a review of the coastal access scheme. I...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1394-6 (Link to this contribution) We managed to get through dogs in regard to this Bill in half an hour. The noble Lord, Lord Whitty, ...
Baroness Hamwee | 709 c1397-8 (Link to this contribution) I have learnt that in your Lordships’ House one will not be frowned on too much if one asks what mig...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 709 c1396-7 (Link to this contribution) I rise to speak to Amendment A357B. I have already declared my interest for the Committee stage of t...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1400 (Link to this contribution) I have not the slightest hesitation in taking that point on board. If I sat down before the noble Ba...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1401-2 (Link to this contribution) I have always believed that, in politics, if you stand in the middle of the road you get run over. T...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1383 (Link to this contribution) That is a satisfactory answer, but extraordinary things sometimes happen. When the draft scheme fir...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1383 (Link to this contribution) It would be extraordinary if those reasons were not made public.
Baroness Byford | 709 c1382 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend for raising the issue because the internet is still not a possibili...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1381-2 (Link to this contribution) I wish I had not mentioned that. The moment that I said it, I knew that noble Lords would challenge ...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 709 c1381 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord said that it would do for the scheme to be published on the internet, where people co...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1379-81 (Link to this contribution) In responding to this group of amendments, I also speak to two government amendments. First, the am...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1382 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for the detailed attention that he has given to these amendments. We will check...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1382 (Link to this contribution) I should make it clear that in Clause 288 we are talking about the scheme. The scheme sets the param...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1382 (Link to this contribution) That is a very important point. I, too, was somewhat confused because the practicality of the issue ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1382 (Link to this contribution) You have to draw a distinction between the path itself and the coastal access scheme with which we a...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1383 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. I am happy to give the assurance that noble Lords wa...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1385 (Link to this contribution) It is customary from the Dispatch Box to thank a noble Lord when he does not press amendments that h...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1383 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that is right. While they are revising it, "the scheme" is still in operation. They a...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1383 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that assurance. The only other comment that I wanted to make was to follow the nob...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1384 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A292 A292: Clause 288, page 175, line 21, at end insert— "( ) The Secretary of State must...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1383-4 (Link to this contribution) I was about say that, if the Minister is going to spend more time looking at the wording of the Bill...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1384 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A301 A301: Clause 288, page 175, line 34, at end insert ", carrying out any other researc...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1384 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A298 A298: Clause 288, page 175, line 24, leave out "publish, as soon as reasonably pract...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1384-5 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A301 is about the preparation of the reports that will consist of the large number of prop...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1386 (Link to this contribution) I should have resolved by now never to tempt providence, nor the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, from this...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1405 (Link to this contribution) I had no idea of my noble friend’s connection with Lundy when I prepared these notes, but it rather ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1406-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to noble Lords for their contributions to this short debate. If the noble Lord, Lord T...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1403 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that, and I hope that they will also look at adopting the EFRA proposal rather tha...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1403 (Link to this contribution) Clause 290: The English coast Amendment A307 A307: Clause 290, page 176, line 5, after "including"...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1403-4 (Link to this contribution) I hope that this will not take as long as the debate on dogs did, or we will be here all night—altho...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 709 c1404 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord referred somewhat casually to the thought that Lundy Island, because it is a wonderfu...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1407 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord indicates the difficulties we have. The larger and smaller islands in that group scar...
Lord Tyler | 709 c1407 (Link to this contribution) While the Minister is describing the Government's general approach to this issue in a very helpful w...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1409 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A316A A316A: Clause 291, page 176, line 35, leave out "(3)(b)" and insert "(3)"
Lord Greaves | 709 c1408-9 (Link to this contribution) I thought that the last sentence of the Minister’s speech was completely opposite to everything else...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1407-8 (Link to this contribution) I would not say that it has, but the noble Baroness will recognise that they are grouped together in...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 709 c1407 (Link to this contribution) Just for the record, Lundy is owned by the National Trust. As far as I know there is total access ev...
Baroness Byford | 709 c1412 (Link to this contribution) I rise to speak to my Amendment 319A, which is in this group and is a probing amendment. As I read C...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1410-1 (Link to this contribution) I have given notice of my intention to oppose the Question that this clause stand part, not because ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1409-10 (Link to this contribution) In moving this amendment, I will also speak to Amendment A318A. My amendments in this group seek to ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1412-3 (Link to this contribution) That was a very interesting debate and I accept that both the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, in his discu...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1413-4 (Link to this contribution) Not entirely. I am going to comment sympathetically on one amendment, so I am hoping to give greater...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1413 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister accept the position that I have come to—that the wording in the Bill is not flexib...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1415-6 (Link to this contribution) I have nothing more to say specifically on what has been discussed. I shall make just two points. My...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1416 (Link to this contribution) Will someone find out before this Bill has to be applied to it?
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1414-5 (Link to this contribution) To be frank, it is a convenient definition. Surely it is important for Natural England to have a def...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1414 (Link to this contribution) The Minister reading out those technical details about this European directive, or whatever it is, j...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1415 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness is not wrong. It is because of the way in which the whole clause has been drafted...
Baroness Byford | 709 c1415 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his explanation. Surely that would be true of all coastal access throughout...
Baroness Byford | 709 c1418 (Link to this contribution) My Amendment A326A is linked with this group and is another probing amendment. In our brief discussi...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1416-8 (Link to this contribution) I appear to have lost my notes, which perhaps will speed things up a little. These amendments are ab...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1416 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A326 A326: Clause 292, page 178, line 9, leave out "may" and insert "is likely within the...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1422 (Link to this contribution) In the circumstances of the coastal access path, my understanding is that you roll back and then you...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1422 (Link to this contribution) I would be grateful if the Minister did that. It is complicated and I still do not quite understand ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1421-2 (Link to this contribution) I do not think I can give the noble Baroness a definitive answer because it would be part of the wor...
Baroness Byford | 709 c1421 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his response. As he knows, along the coastlines particularly of Norfolk and...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1419-21 (Link to this contribution) This has been an interesting debate. Clause 292 inserts new sections into Part IV of the National Pa...
Earl Cathcart | 709 c1418-9 (Link to this contribution) One of the inherent difficulties with a route of this sort is that we have to provide not only for a...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1426-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister. I should also have said that I am grateful to the Minister for saying...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1425-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to noble Lords for the points they have raised on this interesting part of the Bill. I...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1426 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister consider further the question I raised about the specified period or periods and t...
Earl Cathcart | 709 c1427 (Link to this contribution) I thought I was clear on this when the Minister said that interesting points had been raised and tha...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1422 (Link to this contribution) I look forward to reading this long, complicated, technical letter. My only other point is that ther...
Earl Cathcart | 709 c1424 (Link to this contribution) This is another set of amendments regarding possible changes in routes and the issues surrounding th...
Baroness Hamwee | 709 c1424 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend went rather rapidly over the distinction between flooding, the tide and erosion or e...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1422 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A331 A331: Clause 292, page 178, line 32, leave out "may" and insert "shall, where approp...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1422-4 (Link to this contribution) I will also speak to Amendments A333 to A336. All the amendments in this group deal with alternative...
Baroness Hayman | 709 c1429 (Link to this contribution) I have to inform the Committee that, if the amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments A337A t...
Baroness Hamwee | 709 c1427 (Link to this contribution) To add to the Minister’s considerations, I wonder whether this clause could be looked at alongside n...
Baroness Byford | 709 c1427 (Link to this contribution) The way I read it as an amateur from the Back Benches is that new subsection (4) spoke for itself—th...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1427-8 (Link to this contribution) The substantive part of this clause is new subsection (4), which sets out the circumstances. Noble L...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1428 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for those further assurances from the Minister, and I add two points. He is now saying...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1428 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A337 A337: Clause 292, page 179, line 31, leave out from beginning to end of line 9 on pa...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1428-9 (Link to this contribution) I also speak to Amendment A341, which is the substantive amendment in this group. I seek to set out ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1491 (Link to this contribution) Schedule 21: Repeals Amendments A374A to A379A A374A: Schedule 21, page 294, line 9, at end insert...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1490 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A372 A372: Clause 306, page 203, line 38, at end insert— "(ca) section 95(1) by virtue of...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1492 (Link to this contribution) Amendments A391 and A392 A391: Clause 313, page 209, line 46, after "licensing)" insert "or this Pa...
Viscount Ullswater | 709 c1489 (Link to this contribution) I must advise your Lordships that if Amendment A370T is agreed to I cannot call Amendments A370TA an...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1488-9 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A370T A370T: Schedule 20, page 291, line 44, leave out sub-paragraphs (2) to (4) and inse...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1490 (Link to this contribution) Clause 306: Regulations and orders Amendment A371 A371: Clause 306, page 203, line 37, at end inse...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1489-90 (Link to this contribution) Amendments A370U and A370V A370U: Schedule 20, page 292, line 37, at end insert— ""the appropriate ...
Earl Cathcart | 709 c1477 (Link to this contribution) This small group of amendments is intended to probe the question of liability around the coastal rou...
Earl Cathcart | 709 c1477 (Link to this contribution) Clause 295: Restricting liabilities of Natural England and the Secretary of State Amendment A364 A...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1478-9 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, both for his excellent contributions to our debates and for hi...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1477-8 (Link to this contribution) I tabled the question whether Clause 296 should stand part. I did that not because I wish to remove ...
Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 709 c1480 (Link to this contribution) Clause 299: Interpretation of this Part Amendment A364B A364B: Clause 299, page 191, line 18, at e...
Earl Cathcart | 709 c1479 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for clarifying the situation. I started by saying that the amendment was probin...
Duke of Montrose | 709 c1481-2 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Livsey, has worked his way very neatly round this whole question of Matter 16.1...
Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 709 c1480-1 (Link to this contribution) Patience is a great virtue. We now come to the powers of the National Assembly for Wales in relation...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1477 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that and for the response from the Minister. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1477 (Link to this contribution) It is not that I have no interest in it, nor that the point which the noble Lords, Lord Taylor and L...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1485-6 (Link to this contribution) I do not intend to speak for long, but I have some amendments in this group. Indeed, the Minister me...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1484-5 (Link to this contribution) This group of government amendments makes changes to the last parts of the Bill. Government Amendme...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1484 (Link to this contribution) Clause 304: Works detrimental to navigation Amendment A369 A369: Clause 304, page 202, line 47, at...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1484 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A368 A368: Clause 300, page 191, line 42, leave out "16.1" and insert "16.2" Amendment A...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1487-8 (Link to this contribution) Schedule 20: Amendments of the Harbours Act 1964 Amendments A370A to A370S A370A: Schedule 20, pag...
Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 709 c1486 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may refer briefly to Amendment A370V, which states in proposed new subsection (4): ""If th...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1484 (Link to this contribution) Amendments A365 to A367 A365: Clause 300, page 191, line 24, leave out from "measures)" to "insert"...
Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 709 c1483 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his response, which has clarified the situation considerably. It demonstrat...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1482-3 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Livsey, for initiating this limited debate and to the noble Du...
Earl Cathcart | 709 c1469-70 (Link to this contribution) We do not agree with the amendment, which would put on the face of the Planning Act 2008 that Natura...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1476 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to hear the latter comments from the Minister, because some of these powers are, indeed...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1476 (Link to this contribution) That is clearly not the purpose, and I would expect any proposals to be done sensitively and not to ...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 709 c1474 (Link to this contribution) I support Amendment A362N, which concerns signs. Many of us, including from the government Front Ben...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1474-6 (Link to this contribution) Schedule 19 provides powers that are necessary to enable Natural England to identify, establish and ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1473 (Link to this contribution) Schedule 19: Establishment and maintenance of the English coastal route etc Amendment A362B A362B:...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1473-4 (Link to this contribution) I received notification that the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, wished Clause 294 to stand part. Therefor...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1470-1 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to noble Lords who have contributed to this short debate. I was particularly grateful ...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1471-3 (Link to this contribution) I am even more confused now. I thank the Minister for his reply. I will explain why I am confused in...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1476 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that, because it is important to reassure the stakeholder groups on such matters; ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1429-30 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, for that clarification. Clause 292 amends Part IV of ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1444-5 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his response. To some extent I can understand his reluctance to see a requi...
Baroness Byford | 709 c1444 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for giving way. It is clearly a practical problem: some of the information is v...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1444 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness because none of us can envisage the concept of the coastal path ...
Baroness Byford | 709 c1442 (Link to this contribution) My Amendment 338A is in this group. In page 179, line 42, it would leave out paragraph (e). It is a ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1442-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lords who have spoken on this amendment. We have had some discussion abou...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1441 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A337A A337A: Clause 292, page 179, line 33, leave out "take reasonable steps to"
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1441 (Link to this contribution) As I mentioned before the break, my amendments in this group strengthen slightly the consultation re...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1430-1 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord presents those questions against a context in which he wants to rewrite this section ...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1431 (Link to this contribution) The Minister convinces me that the amendment is right. If he reads the list carefully, he will find ...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1430 (Link to this contribution) I shall certainly do that in a minute. Can the Minister answer a couple of questions? First, which o...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1449 (Link to this contribution) I wish noble Lords could have been present when we met organisations with an interest in this Bill. ...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1449-50 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful again for the Minister’s care in responding to these amendments. In a sense we are bac...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1447-9 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with the latter point made by the noble Lord, Lord Taylor. I shall deal first with...
Lord Judd | 709 c1449 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that anyone could question the good faith of my noble friend or his colleagues in gov...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1449 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend will have heard my response that we have not listed non-statutory consultees, but I ...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 709 c1449 (Link to this contribution) Concerning the voluntary organisations which might be affected, there is quite a different tack need...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1445 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A342 A342: Clause 292, page 180, line 29, leave out "may" and insert "shall"
Lord Greaves | 709 c1445-6 (Link to this contribution) We are here talking about what happens when the final report is sent out. In moving Amendment A342, ...
Lord Judd | 709 c1446 (Link to this contribution) If we were in another sort of organisation other than being part of the formal political system in t...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1446-7 (Link to this contribution) To some extent, we rehearsed this argument in our debate on the previous set of amendments. Indeed, ...
Lord Goodlad | 709 c1451 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A343 A343: Clause 292, page 180, leave out lines 34 to 45
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 709 c1454-5 (Link to this contribution) I rise to support these amendments, particularly Amendment A357A. I consider an appeals system to be...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1453-4 (Link to this contribution) This group of amendments offers a bewildering array of alternative versions of much the same thing; ...
Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 709 c1453 (Link to this contribution) I advise the Committee that, if the amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments A343A to A349C ...
Lord Goodlad | 709 c1451-3 (Link to this contribution) I shall also speak to Amendments A350 and A354 in my name and the names of the noble Lord, Lord Pann...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1456-8 (Link to this contribution) I will speak to three amendments in this group. I do not wish to speak to Amendment A350ZA, so the M...
Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 709 c1456 (Link to this contribution) I wish to make a very short impact on this discussion. I fully support the Bill’s objective of givin...
Lord Pannick | 709 c1455-6 (Link to this contribution) In an 1893 judgment on rating law in the Court of Appeal, Lord Justice Bowen stated: ""If no appeal ...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 709 c1458 (Link to this contribution) I do not think there is a need for any more 10-minute speeches, because I understand that we are, in...
Baroness Byford | 709 c1459 (Link to this contribution) I briefly thank my noble friend Lord Goodlad for introducing these important amendments, and I am de...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1459-61 (Link to this contribution) This has been an extremely helpful debate. It is pretty clear that the original proposals by the Gov...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1461 (Link to this contribution) I, for one, am grateful for the work that the Government and the Minister and his team are putting i...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1462 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness is referring to Amendment A357BA, but we have not quite got there yet.
Baroness Byford | 709 c1462 (Link to this contribution) I think that the last amendment is the one that we have degrouped. In fact, the Deputy Chairman of C...
Baroness Fookes | 709 c1462 (Link to this contribution) I had only got to Amendment A357B, which was not moved. Now we get to Amendment A357BA.
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1463 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness was pleased with my response to the previous discussion about appeals or a review...
Baroness Byford | 709 c1462-3 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to the Deputy Chairman of Committees. She was not in the Chair earlier when I asked for ...
Baroness Byford | 709 c1463-4 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for the way he has responded and I accept that, within the Bill, the Government...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1464 (Link to this contribution) On the ECHR question, I shall not bore the House by reading out a long scribe as to why I believe I ...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 709 c1469 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Greaves, will not be surprised to hear me express doubts about the amendment. O...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1468-9 (Link to this contribution) This amendment is about the relationship between the planning system and the new coastal route and s...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1467-8 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A362AF A362AF: After Clause 294, insert the following new Clause— "Interruptions to the c...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1467 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased that we have had this debate and I am grateful to the Minister for his response. He wil...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1465-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for the succinct way in which he has presented an important case. Th...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1464-5 (Link to this contribution) We have tabled Amendment A357C and the others in this group, to which I will speak, to call into que...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1464 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A357C A357C: Clause 292, page 182, leave out lines 6 and 7
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1491-2 (Link to this contribution) Amendments A383 to A389 A383: Clause 313, page 209, line 13, at end insert— "(iii) section 304 (whi...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1376 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A284 A284: Clause 288, page 175, line 10, leave out "approach it will take" and insert "p...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1374 (Link to this contribution) That is very encouraging, and I thank the Minister for getting our debate today off to such a constr...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 709 c1390 (Link to this contribution) The question of dogs is very important for the practical success of this part of the Bill. Leaving a...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1400-1 (Link to this contribution) This is an encouraging set of amendments. They do not necessarily have all that much in common with ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 709 c1402-3 (Link to this contribution) I have listened to the noble Lord’s arithmetic, and can say that we will consider this matter becaus...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1385 (Link to this contribution) If the Minister is quite so devastated, I could bring them back on Report.
Baroness Byford | 709 c1462 (Link to this contribution) Amendment A357BA A357BA: Clause 292, page 181, line 44, at end insert— "55EA Compensation for loss ...
Baroness Byford | 709 c1464 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps that covers compensation. Clearly, it is always a difficult situation when one accepts the i...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1486-7 (Link to this contribution) I thank both noble Lords for their generous remarks. It has been a very long Committee. This Bill ha...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1385 (Link to this contribution) I want to reinforce the contribution of the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, on Amendment A323. It would no...
Baroness Hamwee | 709 c1412 (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend in his plea for a common-sense approach. The point at which I became compl...
Lord Goodlad | 709 c1461 (Link to this contribution) I add my thanks to those of the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, for the Minister’s reply, which was extrem...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1416 (Link to this contribution) This debate has been very useful. I think that all sides of the Committee find themselves in the mid...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 709 c1426 (Link to this contribution) I will do my best. If you look at the wording of new Section 55C—I know it has its moments, I accept...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 709 c1429 (Link to this contribution) We were intending to discuss the consultation process in the next group. Noting the support that the...
Lord Greaves | 709 c1429 (Link to this contribution) I can answer that before the Minister replies: it does. This is the normal list that appears in loca...
Subjects
Compensation Devolved matters Appeals Armed forces Decommissioning Costs Coastal areas Common land Delegated legislation Coastal erosion Land Licensing Dogs Liability Environment protection Ferries Energy Legislative competence Farms Inland waterways Land use Environment Agency Isles of Scilly Floods Isle of Wight Estuaries Local government Navigation Livestock Planning Ports Public consultation National Assembly for Wales Public footpaths Nature conservation Parish and town councils National parks Ministry of Defence Scotland Wales Rights of way Repairs and maintenance Shipping Seas and oceans Wildlife Rural areas Firing ranges Islands Natural England Lundy Island
Legislation
Marine and Coastal Access Bill (HL) 2008-09
National Parks and Access to the Countryside Act 1949
Link
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