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Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Tuesday, 2 May 2006, in the House of Lords.

Safeguarding Vulnerable Groups Bill [HL]

Safeguarding Vulnerable Groups Bill [HL]. Lords Committee stage first day. Grand Committee off the floor of the House (Moses Room). Clauses 1 to 5 agreed to. Schedules 1 and 2 agreed to as amended.

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2005-06
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Committee stage
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House of Lords Grand Committee
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Lord Adonis | 681 c189GC (Link to this contribution) An individual who accepts a caution is admitting guilt for the offence in question. Therefore, we do...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 681 c177-8GC (Link to this contribution) I was going to respond specifically to the Minister’s point but I must take up the point just made b...
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Lord Adonis | 681 c178-9GC (Link to this contribution) I understand the strength of feeling in the Committee and I undertake to look at this issue further ...
Lord Adonis | 681 c216-20GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to noble Lords for moving these amendments, which have given us an opportunity to deba...
Lord Lyell | 681 c222GC (Link to this contribution) The Committee stands adjourned until 3.45 pm tomorrow.
Lord Adonis | 681 c222GC (Link to this contribution) This may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn until tomorrow at 3.45 pm.
Lord Adonis | 681 c192GC (Link to this contribution) Fortunately, I have been a Member of the House for only one-sixth as long as the noble Baroness, Lad...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c196-7GC (Link to this contribution) I am very pleased with the Minister’s response to my amendments. With regard to the code of practice...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c196GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reassurances that my fears about those who need facilitation for their ...
Lord Adonis | 681 c197GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 32:"Page 36, line 7, after ““If”” insert ““it appears to the Secretary of State ...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 681 c201-2GC (Link to this contribution) When speaking to Amendment No. 56, the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley, referred to the remarks of the...
Lord Adonis | 681 c207-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 46 to 53:"Page 39, line 39, at end insert—" ““(   )   any person who holds s...
Lord Adonis | 681 c169-70GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 6:"Page 31, line 23, leave out ““Chairman of the”” and insert ““The””" On Quest...
Lord Rix | 681 c169GC (Link to this contribution) So we can all apply for our pensions?
Lord Rix | 681 c180GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all noble Lords who half supported my amendment, and to those who spoke to what my ...
Lord Northbourne | 681 c179GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may return for a moment to read-across. I accept all that has been said and agree that at ...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c180-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 18:"Page 34, line 9, leave out paragraph 1." The noble Baroness said: I shall s...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c189GC (Link to this contribution) Does the noble Baroness accept that we had very good law prior to the passing of the Human Rights Ac...
Lord Adonis | 681 c188GC (Link to this contribution) I am very happy to pay tribute to the noble Baroness for her role in the process. How it arrived whe...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c191-2GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may say a few words on that point. I have some sympathy with the remarks of the noble Baro...
Lord Adonis | 681 c175-7GC (Link to this contribution) I latch on to the words of the noble Lord, Lord Harris, who said that there should be the maximum ap...
Lord Adonis | 681 c177GC (Link to this contribution) I did not say that the wording was there. I said that by virtue of its duties, the IBB would have to...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c208-10GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 54:"Page 2, line 14, at end insert—" ““(4)   All reasonable attempts will be m...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c220GC (Link to this contribution) I rise with trepidation, given that I am responding to a request for amendments suggested by the Loc...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c192-3GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 23:"Page 34, line 15, at end insert—" ““(1) This paragraph applies to the deci...
Lord Adonis | 681 c197GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 25 and 26:"Page 34, line 17, leave out ““it appears to the Secretary of State ...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c198-200GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 42:"Page 38, line 39, at end insert—" ““( ) IBB must review the inclusion of a...
Lord Adonis | 681 c197GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 36 and 37:"Page 36, line 12, leave out ““it appears to the Secretary of State ...
Lord Adonis | 681 c202-5GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend for setting out some of the reasons why we are wrestling with this ...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c159-61GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1:"Page 30, line 7, leave out paragraph (b)." The noble Baroness said: Amendmen...
Lord Adonis | 681 c169GC (Link to this contribution) I endorse what the noble Baroness has said. These pensions are intended to be thoroughly portable.
Baroness Turner of Camden | 681 c171GC (Link to this contribution) I must inform the Committee that if Amendment No. 14 is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments Nos. 15 ...
Lord Adonis | 681 c170GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 9 to 11:"Page 32, line 30, after ““which”” insert ““comprises or””""Page 32, l...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 681 c179-80GC (Link to this contribution) In response to the noble Lord, if I recall it correctly, rape is clearly listed as one of those offe...
Lord Adonis | 681 c180GC (Link to this contribution) I am always delighted to see the noble Lord and anyone he wishes to bring with him.
Lord Rix | 681 c180GC (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful. With that assurance, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c188GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his full response to my amendments. I want to point out that there must be ...
Viscount Ullswater | 681 c184GC (Link to this contribution) I must advise Members of the Committee that if this amendment is agreed to, I shall not be able to c...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c184-5GC (Link to this contribution) I rise to speak to a rather mixed series of amendments in this grouping, Amendments Nos. 21, 27, 31 ...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c189GC (Link to this contribution) This has been a very interesting debate. I thank the Minister for his responses. Perhaps I may again...
Lord Northbourne | 681 c188-9GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the Minister will help me on cautions. Of course, where there has been a decision by the cou...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c188GC (Link to this contribution) That is absolutely fine. Ultimately, noble Lords will agree that it does not matter who, in a sense,...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c191GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may make one small point in response to these technical amendments. I am not a very experi...
Lord Adonis | 681 c190-1GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 19:"Page 34, line 9, leave out ““it appears to the Secretary of State that””" T...
Lord Rix | 681 c177GC (Link to this contribution) Where in the Bill is the amendment of the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley, encapsulated?
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c173-4GC (Link to this contribution) I have tabled Amendment No. 17 in this group. I agree with the vast majority of the remarks so ably ...
Lord Northbourne | 681 c177GC (Link to this contribution) I very strongly agree with the Minister’s position and not with the amendments. I simply do not acce...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c177GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for confirming from the Dispatch Box that the situation that my amendment would...
Baroness Thornton | 681 c214-5GC (Link to this contribution) I speak in support of Amendment No. 64A, which follows on nicely from the speech of the noble Barone...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c213-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 60:"Page 3, line 12, at end insert—" ““(4) The Secretary of State must annuall...
Lord Adonis | 681 c210-2GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to both noble Baronesses for their amendments that relate to the offences in Clauses 7...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c212-3GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his response to the amendments and, in particular, for telling the Committe...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c212GC (Link to this contribution) I accept what the Minister said in response to Amendments Nos. 90 and 98 about communicating this in...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c220-2GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his response to my amendments. On Amendment No. 60, I accept that the Secre...
Baroness Thornton | 681 c220GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his remarks. I am pleased that we again have clear evidence of a joined-up ...
Lord Adonis | 681 c192GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 20:"Page 34, line 12, after ““If”” insert ““it appears to the Secretary of State...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 681 c197-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 38:"Page 36, line 40, leave out paragraph (d) and insert—" ““(d) conduct of a ...
Lord Adonis | 681 c206-7GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 45:"Page 39, line 24, leave out ““a conviction for”” and insert ““the commission...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c161-2GC (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to Amendments Nos. 3 and 40 in this group. Amendment No. 3 is based on the premise tha...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c166-7GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his explanations. A number of additional questions arise from them. I am p...
Lord Laming | 681 c172-3GC (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Harris of Haringey, for speaking to the amendment, not le...
Lord Rix | 681 c170-1GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 14:"Page 1, line 8, leave out paragraphs (a) and (b) and insert ““the children’s...
Lord Rix | 681 c169GC (Link to this contribution) Is there any age limit on members of the IBB?
Lord Adonis | 681 c185-8GC (Link to this contribution) These amendments relate to the important issue of automatic and discretionary bars within the new sc...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c189-90GC (Link to this contribution) I am not suggesting that we did not have good law but we have other considerations now: we have conv...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c174-5GC (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to Amendment No. 55 in the group. I have listened with care to what other Members of t...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c178GC (Link to this contribution) I concur with the noble Lord, Lord Harris of Haringey, and stress again that the reason for my amend...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 681 c215-6GC (Link to this contribution) First, I declare an interest as vice-president of the Local Government Association. I shall speak ab...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c215GC (Link to this contribution) I wish to speak to Amendments Nos. 68, 69, 70, 71 and 72. This cluster of amendments is intended to ...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c210GC (Link to this contribution) Amendments Nos. 90 and 98 are simple amendments designed to accompany the extended monitoring requir...
Lord Adonis | 681 c194-6GC (Link to this contribution) The amendments relate to barring provisions in the scheme and to rights of review and appeal. Amendm...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c193-4GC (Link to this contribution) My probing Amendment No. 41 in this group would ensure that the IBB gives consideration to how repre...
Lord Adonis | 681 c197GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 30:"Page 36, line 4, leave out ““it appears to the Secretary of State that””" O...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c200-1GC (Link to this contribution) I rise to speak to Amendment No. 57 in this group. Before doing so, I hope that I may be helpful to ...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c205-6GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his detailed response and I shall deal with his comments on the amendments ...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c205GC (Link to this contribution) I will speak briefly, because I want to read with great care what the Minister said, both in respons...
Lord Adonis | 681 c162-6GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to both noble Baronesses for their broad welcome, once again, for the Bill and the pro...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c167GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister very much for his full reply to my several amendments. Of course, the formation...
Lord Adonis | 681 c167-8GC (Link to this contribution) On secondments, we entirely share the objective of the noble Baroness, Lady Buscombe, that people wi...
Baroness Buscombe | 681 c168GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his response and beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave,...
Lord Adonis | 681 c168-9GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 5:"Page 31, line 19, after ““chairman”” insert ““or other member””" The noble L...
Baroness Walmsley | 681 c169GC (Link to this contribution) I note that Amendments Nos. 5 and 6 ensure that all IBB members have pension contributions. That is ...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 681 c159GC (Link to this contribution) If there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting, this Committee will adjourn as soon as t...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 681 c171-2GC (Link to this contribution) I will speak to Amendment No. 15. I agree with virtually everything the noble Lord, Lord Rix, said i...
Lord Adonis | 681 c169GC (Link to this contribution) We look forward to the noble Lord’s application. Indeed, I see an IBB in the making around the Table...
Subjects
Disability Children Disclosure of information Codes of practice Abuse Appeals Costs Advisory services Finance Human rights Internet Personal records Protection Membership Public appointments Older people Mental capacity Vetting Vulnerable adults Sexual offences Independent Safeguarding Authority
Legislation
Safeguarding Vulnerable Groups Bill (HL) 2005-06
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