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Grand Committee proceedings (HC) on Wednesday, 30 March 2011, in the House of Commons, led by Cheryl Gillan. The answering member was Lord Hain.

The Budget

The Budget as it relates to Wales. Debate by the Welsh Grand Committee (morning and afternoon sessions).

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Grand Committee proceedings (HC)
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WGC c12-36, 39-72 
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2010-12
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Wales Office
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Welsh Grand Committee
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House of Commons Grand Committees
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Budget report March 2011. (Vote)
Wednesday, 23 March 2011
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Hain | WGC c20 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman makes an important point. The Secretary of State knows the strength of feel...
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Chris Ruane | WGC c48 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way. We are making great progress in the Vale of Clwyd in putting young [ Interrupti...
Elfyn Llwyd | WGC c13 (Link to this contribution) On that point, the Secretary of State will know that one of the things that will carry weight with t...
Guto Bebb | WGC c49 (Link to this contribution) Unlike the hon. Gentleman, I will give way.
Owen Smith | WGC c66-9 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Owen. I also want to thank my hon. Friend the ...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c34 (Link to this contribution) I still harbour some Keynesian tendencies—unlike the shadow Secretary of State, to judge by his comm...
Chris Ruane | WGC c44 (Link to this contribution) I am not giving way. It not only affects the workers, but everybody who owns a house in the area....
Chris Evans | WGC c65 (Link to this contribution) Apart from Russell Grant or Mystic Meg, I do not think, to be brutally honest, that anybody could ha...
Alun Cairns | WGC c65 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful again to the hon. Gentleman for giving way; to his credit, he has been extremely gener...
Roger Williams | WGC c66 (Link to this contribution) I seem to remember that it was Lord Mandelson who said that he was distinctly relaxed about people g...
Chris Evans | WGC c66 (Link to this contribution) I have no problem with somebody making money and contributing to the economy, but when they are comp...
Chris Evans | WGC c29 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman answer one question? Why did the then shadow Chancellor, who is now the Chan...
David Jones | WGC c69-72 (Link to this contribution) I thank you, Mr Owen, for your chairmanship this afternoon, and I also thank Mr Havard for chairing ...
Chris Evans | WGC c64-5 (Link to this contribution) The point I am trying to make is that, during periods of Tory government, we saw unemployment go up ...
Alun Cairns | WGC c64 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman point out one period when Labour left office with unemployment lower than wh...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c62 (Link to this contribution) I am certainly prepared to accept the growth figures. However, the growth figures were financed by b...
Chris Evans | WGC c63-4 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Owen, although, with the Divisions that we hav...
David TC Davies | WGC c64 (Link to this contribution) I am the grandson of a miner. Will the hon. Gentleman accept, first, that miners generally did not w...
Chris Evans | WGC c64 (Link to this contribution) That was not my point. I was making a point about how we felt so desperate in the valley town where ...
Alun Cairns | WGC c64 (Link to this contribution) I came from a similar community and background. I recognise the failure of socialism that led to suc...
Nia Griffith | WGC c62 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not agree that the regressive nature of the taxation will hit Wales harder? ...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c63 (Link to this contribution) It follows from what the hon. Lady says that she is in favour of either significantly higher direct ...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c63 (Link to this contribution) I do not have time; I have only one minute. I turn to the statement made by the Prime Minister to...
Chris Evans | WGC c64 (Link to this contribution) My recollections are not the same. I remember walking past the jobcentre and seeing the TUC protest ...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c61 (Link to this contribution) I will endeavour to conclude my remarks by 4.15 at the very latest, to ensure that the hon. Member f...
Lord Hain | WGC c61 (Link to this contribution) To which the hon. Gentleman's party signed up.
Roger Williams | WGC c59 (Link to this contribution) I am listening to the hon. Lady carefully, but does she agree that one problem with the winter fuel ...
Nia Griffith | WGC c59-60 (Link to this contribution) One of the things about universal benefits is that the hon. Gentleman will pay a lot more tax. These...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c58 (Link to this contribution) Before we resume the debate, I remind the Committee that we will start the winding-up speeches 15 mi...
Nia Griffith | WGC c59 (Link to this contribution) As I was saying, the winter fuel allowance helps pensioners who do not qualify for things such as co...
Roger Williams | WGC c58 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman’s knowledge of theology is greater than mine. I would have to think about that fo...
Nia Griffith | WGC c58 (Link to this contribution) I would like to deal with one of the issues relating to the money that is being taken out of the Wel...
Owen Smith | WGC c62 (Link to this contribution) Interesting though that historical tour was, and interesting as it was to hear what doubts might hav...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c61-2 (Link to this contribution) I will come to that in a moment. I will look at statements made about the Budgets in 2004, 2005 a...
David TC Davies | WGC c29 (Link to this contribution) I am amazed by what I have heard today. This was not so much a history of finances, but more akin to...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c29 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind hon. Members that we have 25 minutes before the Committee is suspended. I would like...
Lord Hain | WGC c28 (Link to this contribution) On the point about the weakness of the private sector in Wales, I stick to what I said in 2008, but ...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c28 (Link to this contribution) I am not quite sure where the right hon. Gentleman is going because he once said that he thought tha...
Lord Hain | WGC c27-8 (Link to this contribution) The legacy of 13 years of Labour is that the wealth of Wales, until the banking crisis, grew year on...
David Jones | WGC c26-7 (Link to this contribution) The shadow Secretary of State mentions the Office for National Statistics. Is it not the case that O...
Lord Hain | WGC c28-9 (Link to this contribution) No you did not hear it, Mr Havard. The Government promised to give people a hand up, not a handout. ...
Lord Hain | WGC c28 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend, as always, has made a very telling point. The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State...
Chris Evans | WGC c28 (Link to this contribution) When I worked at Lloyds TSB, I was always told that poor performance would get people the sack. Why,...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c29 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before the hon. Gentleman intervenes, may I say that while context is important and historica...
David TC Davies | WGC c29 (Link to this contribution) I hear that comment from a sedentary position. Somebody said that Labour went on to reduce the natio...
Owen Smith | WGC c30 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman used to work in business, as did I. Even if we were to accept the numbers that he...
David TC Davies | WGC c30 (Link to this contribution) The then shadow Chancellor was not aware of the true scale of the problem. For example, we are only ...
Owen Smith | WGC c30 (Link to this contribution) There is a simple answer to that and it is where the analogy between a business and the national eco...
David TC Davies | WGC c30 (Link to this contribution) I assure the hon. Gentleman that all of the figures I have given will be on the record, and he can c...
David TC Davies | WGC c30-1 (Link to this contribution) There we come to the crux of the difference between the Conservatives and Labour, whether one is a K...
Lord Hart of Tenby | WGC c24 (Link to this contribution) Did the voting public of the UK not have an opportunity to assess the truth in May last year? Did th...
Lord Hain | WGC c23-4 (Link to this contribution) I hear the hon. Gentleman heckling from a sedentary position. If we had not done that, the recession...
Lord Hain | WGC c23 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has an important point. I accept his charge to an extent, although I do not remem...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c23 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that the previous Government based all their eggs on the golden ...
Lord Hain | WGC c22-3 (Link to this contribution) I am disappointed that the hon. Gentleman, for whom I have always had a lot of time and respect, has...
Roger Williams | WGC c22 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman’s point about debt relates to the national gross domestic product, not in a...
Lord Hain | WGC c21-2 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman says they were not regulated. Actually, the Conservative Opposition wanted lighte...
Lord Hain | WGC c21 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend, as always, makes a telling and expert contribution on the matter. That is the truth ...
Owen Smith | WGC c20-1 (Link to this contribution) Further to that point, did my right hon. Friend note with surprise, as I did, that the Chief Secreta...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c25 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for giving way. He is not only reinforcing his credentials...
Lord Hain | WGC c25-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention because it allows me to repeat my point and for the public to un...
Lord Hain | WGC c25 (Link to this contribution) That ratio indicates the depth, or the width, of the difference between what was likely under a Labo...
Lord Hain | WGC c24-5 (Link to this contribution) We made it absolutely clear—in fact, we put it in our manifesto—that we would reduce the deficit by ...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c25 (Link to this contribution) Is it not the case that the independent Wales Audit Office estimated that based on Labour’s spending...
Lord Hain | WGC c25 (Link to this contribution) No. I shall not accept that false challenge. The baying Members on the Conservative Benches know tha...
Lord Hain | WGC c24 (Link to this contribution) No party won the last election.
Jonathan Evans | WGC c24 (Link to this contribution) If I understand the right hon. Gentleman’s narrative, he is now complaining about cuts announcements...
Lord Hain | WGC c24 (Link to this contribution) I do not doubt that. I am not seeking to deny it. We lost and we lost badly. We lost for many other ...
Guto Bebb | WGC c20 (Link to this contribution) Dare I say that it was because the market was anticipating a Conservative victory in the general ele...
Lord Hain | WGC c20 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Lady for allowing me to remind the Committee that we were funding Wales on...
Elfyn Llwyd | WGC c20 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman share my dismay that for weeks now Treasury Ministers have promised to...
Lord Hain | WGC c19 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a significant point. Time and again we see what the Government are doing here a...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c20 (Link to this contribution) On what basis are we funding Wales differently from the basis on which his Government funded Wales? ...
Nia Griffith | WGC c19 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether my right hon. Friend would also include a request for some explanation about the he...
Lord Hain | WGC c20 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful that my hon. Friend is once again trying to educate Conservative Members in the truth ...
Lord Hain | WGC c20 (Link to this contribution) I have to give the hon. Gentleman brownie points for trying to get out of an impossible hole. The tr...
Chris Ruane | WGC c20 (Link to this contribution) Another reason for the willingness to lend at such low rates is that UK Government debt was serviced...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c17 (Link to this contribution) A conversation is going on across the Benches. In England, the green belt has been fully protected. ...
Guto Bebb | WGC c17 (Link to this contribution) It is important to point out that evidence has been presented to the Welsh Affairs Committee on the ...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c17-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend reflects his conversations with businesses that could be providing valuable inward in...
Owen Smith | WGC c18 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way again?
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c16-7 (Link to this contribution) They include planning in particular. If the hon. Gentleman would like me to write to him with some d...
Owen Smith | WGC c17 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State has been extremely generous this morning. Does she also recognise the flipsid...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c18-9 (Link to this contribution) I want to make some progress. The new enterprise allowance will support about 1,800 unemployed pe...
Lord Hain | WGC c19 (Link to this contribution) I welcome you again to the Chair, Mr. Havard. I also welcome the fact that Government Members have r...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c19 (Link to this contribution) I apologise, Mr Havard, but as you are so intelligent and erudite, I thought that you must be part o...
Lord Hain | WGC c19 (Link to this contribution) We learn something every day. Before I come to the Secretary of State’s speech, may I respond to the...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c15 (Link to this contribution) Hold on one second; just let me finish. There is a good opportunity here for joint working. Business...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c15 (Link to this contribution) I am a decent person. Thank you for that intervention. There is a real opportunity for politicians t...
Owen Smith | WGC c15 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to prompt a row, but the Secretary of State seems to imply that the Welsh Assembly Gov...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c15 (Link to this contribution) I am actually grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that question, because it is quite important. If we...
Elfyn Llwyd | WGC c16 (Link to this contribution) May I ask a further question? The point raised by the hon. Member for Pontypridd needs further pursu...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c16 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman makes a valuable point. I certainly think that that is the sort of detail t...
Nick Smith | WGC c15 (Link to this contribution) On enterprise zones, has the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Welsh Assembly Government,...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c15-6 (Link to this contribution) I am particularly keen to look at the areas that could grow, and the south Wales valleys is one of t...
Owen Smith | WGC c16 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State has twice implied that there are additional burdens on business in Wales. She...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c12 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Committee has considered the matter of the Budget as it relates to Wales....
Lord Hain | WGC c12 (Link to this contribution) I would certainly be happy to work with the Secretary of State on that issue. The absence of the Wel...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c12 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful for that generous offer.
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c12 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the Secretary of State and with my right hon. Friend the Member for Neath about the imp...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c13 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman will have my full support on that, although we will not be able to call it ...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c13-4 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman’s remarks on that issue are fine, but he should know that there has been su...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c14 (Link to this contribution) In that specific context, it is clear that it would be worth while to have some discussion with Wels...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c14 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I have been to see the First Minister since the Budget and I have indicated clearly, as has the...
Nick Smith | WGC c14 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Lady give way?
Roger Williams | WGC c55-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point. The Labour Government’s excuse was that it was the result of incr...
Susan Elan Jones | WGC c56 (Link to this contribution) I do not recall our national saint saying that we should remember the little things but totally igno...
Roger Williams | WGC c55 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a point about the rate at which people can keep the money that they earn an...
Hywel Williams | WGC c55 (Link to this contribution) It has been calculated that the change in allowance will mean an increase of 92p a day for the stand...
Roger Williams | WGC c54-5 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure and privilege to take part in the debate, Mr Owen. I congratulate the hon. Member f...
Jessica Morden | WGC c53-4 (Link to this contribution) I agree that a balance must be struck. There is no sense in losing steelmaking in the UK and then ha...
David TC Davies | WGC c53 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady makes a powerful point. Does she agree that, in general, it would be foolish for the G...
Jessica Morden | WGC c52-3 (Link to this contribution) I did not expect to be called so early. In view of your earlier comments, Mr Owen, I will concentrat...
Guto Bebb | WGC c52 (Link to this contribution) I was going to finish my comments, and I regret allowing that intervention. I wanted to mention issu...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c52 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before the hon. Member for Aberconwy resumes his speech, I remind him that we are debating ho...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c55 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend may recall that we discussed this at the last meeting of the Welsh Grand Committee, w...
Alun Cairns | WGC c57 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman recognise that the Barnett formula also offers protection during a period of...
Roger Williams | WGC c56-7 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady makes a good point, and I will shortly come to something in a similar vein, but a spik...
David TC Davies | WGC c58 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that that is proof that the argument about Keynesian economics and th...
Roger Williams | WGC c57 (Link to this contribution) That may well be the case, but I say to my hon. Friend that I hope that in the course of this period...
Nia Griffith | WGC c56 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Roger Williams | WGC c56 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady makes a point, but I believe it was the Leader of the Opposition who suggested a diffe...
Nia Griffith | WGC c56 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman aware that it possible to have different rates of VAT and that various countri...
Roger Williams | WGC c56 (Link to this contribution) Let me finish dealing with the point made by the hon. Member for Clwyd South. There has been an incr...
Chris Ruane | WGC c48 (Link to this contribution) We have made great progress over the past year in putting 450 young people back to work in the Vale ...
Guto Bebb | WGC c48 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Owen. First, I would like to refer to some of ...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c48 (Link to this contribution) Order. Let us have some silence until the end of the speech.
Hywel Williams | WGC c47 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Chris Ruane | WGC c47 (Link to this contribution) I will, briefly, because I have given way to the Tories and Members of my own party.
Chris Ruane | WGC c48 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman might not have, but 18 of the 23 Cabinet members are millionaires, and they do no...
Hywel Williams | WGC c47 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman share my despair at the Government’s decision to bring in the single room ra...
Chris Ruane | WGC c47 (Link to this contribution) It is not just in my constituency; it also applies to the constituency of the Under-Secretary of Sta...
Chris Ruane | WGC c45 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes an excellent point. I give way to the hon. Member for Vale of Glamorgan, ...
Alun Cairns | WGC c45 (Link to this contribution) I recognise the problem that so many such communities have with dependence on the public sector and ...
Chris Ruane | WGC c45 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased that the hon. Gentleman makes such an important intervention. I will give him an exampl...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c46 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Chris Ruane | WGC c46-7 (Link to this contribution) I am not giving way any more. There are now 3,500 jobs, including the Technium OpTIC, a £17 milli...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c45 (Link to this contribution) If I manage to catch the Chairman’s eye, I will endeavour to address the hon. Gentleman’s question.
Chris Ruane | WGC c45 (Link to this contribution) Would the Under-Secretary of State for Wales like to answer my question?
Chris Ruane | WGC c45 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to my right hon. Friend the Member for Delyn and then to the hon. Member for Vale o...
Lord Hanson of Flint | WGC c45 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will recall the National Insurance Contributions Act 2011 in which the Government bro...
Guto Bebb | WGC c51-2 (Link to this contribution) It was six audits. A structure that insists on six audits of a successful project is saying, ““If yo...
Susan Elan Jones | WGC c51 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Gentleman did not remember what Sir Terry Matthews said about the ProAct scheme, wh...
Guto Bebb | WGC c51 (Link to this contribution) I am more than happy to acknowledge that the ProAct scheme was a success, but in that session, the c...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c50 (Link to this contribution) Just for clarification, my hon. Friend will want to tell the shadow Minister that although the figur...
Guto Bebb | WGC c51 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for reminding me of that. The truth is that we need to rebalance ...
Guto Bebb | WGC c50 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that I have stated anything to the contrary. Economic growth is not as we would like,...
Guto Bebb | WGC c50 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my hon. Friend the Member for Cardiff North can give an even more positive explanatio...
Guto Bebb | WGC c50 (Link to this contribution) Clearly, the higher the growth figure, the happier I would be, but the fact that we have a growth fi...
Owen Smith | WGC c50 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that it is not the Labour party saying that growth has slowed, but th...
Alun Cairns | WGC c52 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend’s point about staff morale and the leadership shown by the Department for Economy and...
Alun Cairns | WGC c49 (Link to this contribution) It is easy to cherry-pick individual projects, but do we not need to consider the totality? If we ex...
Guto Bebb | WGC c49-50 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate the comments and agree with the sentiments expressed. To turn to the Budget, it was ...
Susan Elan Jones | WGC c50 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman tell us what growth figures he would have liked to see the Chancellor of the...
Chris Ruane | WGC c49 (Link to this contribution) I did give way; I gave way about seven or eight times.
Chris Ruane | WGC c49 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry about that. My generosity knows some limits. In the St Asaph business park, there is T...
Guto Bebb | WGC c49 (Link to this contribution) I obviously know that there is a mix there, but I suspect that the vast majority will be public sect...
David TC Davies | WGC c48 (Link to this contribution) Did it also surprise my hon. Friend, as a fellow comprehensive boy who sends his kids to a state sch...
Guto Bebb | WGC c48-9 (Link to this contribution) As usual, my hon. Friend makes a very strong point and I agree entirely. Another point made by the h...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c36 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman’s party operates with the Scottish nationalists in co-operation in a number of vo...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c35-6 (Link to this contribution) That might well be the case, but the reality is that the perception is out there, which will be dama...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c36 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman telling me that he supports part 2 of the Holtham reports, and that he wants c...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c36 (Link to this contribution) Personally, I do not see the need for a Calman-style process. We have had four independent reports o...
Roger Williams | WGC c36 (Link to this contribution) Given Plaid Cymru’s prime position in the coalition in Cardiff, the hon. Gentleman will perhaps be a...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c36 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is well aware that I am not here to battle the case of Scotland; I am here to fig...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c39 (Link to this contribution) That is not my understanding of the situation. I understand that the Welsh Assembly Government have ...
David Jones | WGC c39 (Link to this contribution) It is indeed the case that the Government have decided not to extend end-year flexibility, but I am ...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c39 (Link to this contribution) Before the Committee adjourned, I was talking about end-year flexibility and the sum of around £385 ...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c36 (Link to this contribution) The Holtham recommendations are quite clear, but before we start moving towards taxation powers we n...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c31 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will know that directors in any business have to form a judgment on whether the busin...
David TC Davies | WGC c31 (Link to this contribution) I will but may I answer the question since it has been posed? A few years ago, I visited the Europea...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c32-4 (Link to this contribution) Diolch, Mr Havard. Last year, we had the so-called austerity Budget, and last week’s Budget was labe...
David TC Davies | WGC c31-2 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that intervention. That situation has many parallels with the si...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c34-5 (Link to this contribution) That is a valid point, and it brings me on to the next sentence of my speech. My right hon. Frien...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c35 (Link to this contribution) I can tell the Secretary of State that the announcement last month has gone down like a lead balloon...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c35 (Link to this contribution) May I thank the hon. Gentleman for his welcome of some of the detailed parts of the Budget? He is ma...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c35 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the hon. Gentleman will work with me to allay that anger, because that is not the case. ...
Chris Ruane | WGC c44 (Link to this contribution) I want to repeat to the hon. Members for Clwyd West and for Cardiff North some statistics on public ...
Alun Cairns | WGC c43 (Link to this contribution) I cannot say that the hon. Gentleman is talking so enthusiastically about enterprise zones that it w...
Owen Smith | WGC c42 (Link to this contribution) I must respond. I did not say that we know definitively that enterprise zones will not work. They mi...
Alun Cairns | WGC c42 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for underlining the inconsistency of the Labour party’s policies.
Chris Ruane | WGC c44-5 (Link to this contribution) No, I will not. There will be no jobs in other areas of the country for people to go to find work...
Alun Cairns | WGC c44 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Alun Cairns | WGC c44 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Chris Ruane | WGC c44 (Link to this contribution) That is a very daft way of looking at it, both for the individual and for the local economy. Those l...
Lord Brennan of Canton | WGC c44 (Link to this contribution) Is not my hon. Friend forgetting the fact mentioned in the letter to my hon. Friend the Member for N...
Alun Cairns | WGC c40 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to have the opportunity to contribute to this important parliamentary scrutiny of t...
Alun Cairns | WGC c40 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to tell the hon. Gentleman that, yes, he is wrong. The then shadow Chancellor—he is now t...
Hywel Williams | WGC c40 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Gentleman can help my recollection, but when the Conservatives were in opposition, ...
Alun Cairns | WGC c42 (Link to this contribution) Again, the hon. Gentleman falls back to that old socialist Labour habit of thinking about how much m...
Owen Smith | WGC c42 (Link to this contribution) I am not saying that we do not want an enterprise zone in Pontypridd. We would be delighted to accep...
Guto Bebb | WGC c42 (Link to this contribution) The cynicism of the hon. Member for Pontypridd is not well placed. I seem to recall that when the an...
Alun Cairns | WGC c40-1 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to recognise that Scotland and the current Scottish Executive—the SNP—are extremely impor...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c40 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman seriously suggesting that the SNP is a block on the reform of the Barnett form...
Alun Cairns | WGC c42 (Link to this contribution) It is fair to say that the enterprise zones of the past were not always as successful as they could ...
Owen Smith | WGC c41-2 (Link to this contribution) I challenge the hon. Gentleman to look at the evidence for the previous iteration of enterprise zone...
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Business Economic policy Public expenditure Wales Taxation Enterprise zones Budget March 2011
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