Parliamentary Search

Grand Committee proceedings (HC) on Wednesday, 1 December 2010, in the House of Commons, led by Cheryl Gillan. The answering member was Lord Hain.

Comprehensive Spending Review

Implications for Wales of the Government's comprehensive spending review. Debate by the Welsh Grand Committee.

Secondary information

Type
Grand Committee proceedings (HC)
Reference
WGC c15-36, 39-62 
Session
2010-12
Department
Wales Office
Committee
Welsh Grand Committee
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons Grand Committees
Proceeding contributions
Alun Cairns | WGC c26 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Geraint Davies | WGC c27 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that the deficit was the price paid to avoid a massive depression, a...
Show all contributions (228)
Lord Hain | WGC c28-9 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. Indeed, he gives me the opportunity to quote the Chancellor,...
Guto Bebb | WGC c48-9 (Link to this contribution) I am as disappointed as the hon. Gentleman about the broadband application. The issue is quite clear...
Owen Smith | WGC c49 (Link to this contribution) I thank you for giving way again.
Guto Bebb | WGC c47 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to be here today. This is my second Welsh Grand Committee, and it has been much bet...
Alun Cairns | WGC c34 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Hart of Tenby | WGC c56-7 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr Owen. I will take your advice to heart. One of the depressing features of the sorts...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c62 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am afraid that I have to suspend, and then adjourn the Committee.
Nick Smith | WGC c33 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Nick Smith | WGC c23 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
Geraint Davies | WGC c52 (Link to this contribution) The coalition Government have proposed that council tenants earning more than a certain amount shoul...
David TC Davies | WGC c41 (Link to this contribution) What happened in 1991 was a direct result of the steps that had to be taken to clear up the mess lef...
Guto Bebb | WGC c52-3 (Link to this contribution) As a small business owner, I would obviously be against increasing any taxes, but I accept that we a...
Geraint Davies | WGC c36 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that if 1 million more people are on the dole, it would cost the coun...
Alun Cairns | WGC c44-5 (Link to this contribution) As I have been invited to respond, I can only report on the discussions with the Secretary of State ...
Geraint Davies | WGC c48 (Link to this contribution) The recent autumn forecasts for economic growth have been massively pared down since the Conservativ...
Guto Bebb | WGC c48 (Link to this contribution) With all due respect, the hon. Member for Swansea West should consider the impact of the Leader of t...
Guto Bebb | WGC c49 (Link to this contribution) With all due respect, the hon. Gentleman is making a claim about what I said this morning. I welcome...
Chris Evans | WGC c49 (Link to this contribution) I was here this morning when the hon. Gentleman welcomed people losing their jobs. There are people ...
Nick Smith | WGC c48 (Link to this contribution) It is interesting to listen to the ““children of Thatcher””, as they were described by the Prime Min...
Guto Bebb | WGC c49 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. That is indeed the situation in the county of Conwy, where ...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c49 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is surely bored of these chants about people losing their jobs. Does he not find it a...
Owen Smith | WGC c47 (Link to this contribution) We made our position absolutely clear. We would have dealt with the deficit—half of it—over the spen...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c48 (Link to this contribution) Order. Will the hon. Gentleman please refer to hon. Members correctly?
Guto Bebb | WGC c46-7 (Link to this contribution) That is the crux of the issue. The Opposition continually state that they would have dealt with the ...
Geraint Davies | WGC c46 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend accept that, in this year’s election, many Welsh constituents—in particula...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c47 (Link to this contribution) There is no doubt that, had my party won the election, there would have to have been a review. There...
Roger Williams | WGC c47 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is as courteous as ever in giving way. Will he explain why it was left to t...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c46-7 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a valid point. The problem with the creation of the coalition is that it has le...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c45 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman was a Welsh MP in Northern Ireland.
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c45-6 (Link to this contribution) No; I am not referring to the fact that I was not a Northern Ireland MP. That is not my point at all...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c45 (Link to this contribution) Did the right hon. Gentleman face the same issue when he was appointed Secretary of State for Northe...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c45 (Link to this contribution) I share that view, but discussions are one thing, and a result is quite another. I had plenty of dis...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c46 (Link to this contribution) In that respect, I do not think there is a difference. The hon. Gentleman and I are fundamentally di...
David TC Davies | WGC c46 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman said something that surprised me. He said that it is our duty—I think he sa...
Lord Hanson of Flint | WGC c57 (Link to this contribution) Does the fact that there were 26 elected Members out of 40 not give the hon. Gentleman a little bit ...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c57 (Link to this contribution) Order. Will the hon. Gentleman come back from the election to the comprehensive spending review?
Lord Hart of Tenby | WGC c57 (Link to this contribution) I am not for one moment denying that in certain solid areas, not much changed, but the shift was sig...
Jenny Willott | WGC c54 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady agree that it is not helpful to describe the project as having been shelved? My u...
Sian C James | WGC c53 (Link to this contribution) That is an excellent idea. We have written on several occasions to the Transport Minister, but as ye...
Sian C James | WGC c54 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Lady for that contribution. My concern is that we have been here before on several ...
Sian C James | WGC c54 (Link to this contribution) We heard about the Severn tunnel very early in the debate, when it was used as an excuse for not bri...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c54 (Link to this contribution) I should like to follow up the point made by my hon. Friend the Member for Cardiff Central because m...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c54-5 (Link to this contribution) I am almost tempted to say, ““from one chuffernutter to another””, because the first job I wanted wh...
Sian C James | WGC c55 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Secretary of State for those comments, but it is not just me, her, or anybody e...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c56 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before I call the hon. Member for Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire, I inform the Commi...
Guto Bebb | WGC c52 (Link to this contribution) It is part of a package of measures that have been taken because of the mess that was left to us by ...
Nick Smith | WGC c52 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman therefore deny that if someone is on jobseeker’s allowance for more than a y...
Guto Bebb | WGC c52 (Link to this contribution) That is an interesting view of the policies that have been put forward. Council tenants who want to ...
Guto Bebb | WGC c51-2 (Link to this contribution) It is important to note that the reduction is subject to the Barnett formula. One could argue, and s...
Hywel Francis | WGC c53 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend on her work in championing the cause of electrification and also her w...
Sian C James | WGC c53 (Link to this contribution) I make no apology for talking about rail electrification today. My background is very much steeped i...
Susan Elan Jones | WGC c52 (Link to this contribution) How does the hon. Gentleman feel about the fact that the Federation of Small Businesses in north Wal...
Owen Smith | WGC c50 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Member for Aberconwy for giving way. I want to point out a simple fact. He...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c49 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind new Members that we do not use the word ““you””.
Guto Bebb | WGC c50 (Link to this contribution) The economic inactivity rates showed very little change in the period that the Labour party was in g...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c51 (Link to this contribution) In terms of the Welsh block grant, does the hon. Gentleman not acknowledge that over the term of the...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c50 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a sterling speech, and there are no bounds to his generosity in allowing pe...
Guto Bebb | WGC c50 (Link to this contribution) I am obviously delighted to hear that clarification, and I am sure that my hon. Friend the Member fo...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c50 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making an interesting speech. He is right to say that it is important for publ...
Guto Bebb | WGC c51 (Link to this contribution) I shall come to that point. My constituency is less dependent on the public sector than many in Wale...
Lord Hart of Tenby | WGC c42 (Link to this contribution) Actually, I had the word ““bank”” written on the page in front of me, so the right hon. Gentleman ha...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c42 (Link to this contribution) That is the message that consistently comes from our constituents. I want to refer to the differe...
Nick Smith | WGC c42 (Link to this contribution) I remind my right hon. Friend and neighbour that Ysbyty Aneurin Bevan hospital in Gwent, a Labour le...
David TC Davies | WGC c41 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an excellent point, because the official figures of course do not take into acc...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c41 (Link to this contribution) I welcome you to the Chair, Mr Owen, as this is the first time you have chaired the Committee. I kno...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c42 (Link to this contribution) On the contrary, my constituency, as far as unemployment is concerned, did better in the last dozen ...
Alun Cairns | WGC c41 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for giving way. That might be some of the legacy, but our ...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c43-4 (Link to this contribution) Of course, I agree. The Conservatives do not know where they are at all, certainly with their coalit...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c42-3 (Link to this contribution) I think, with hindsight, that the regulation could have been better—of course it could—but we did no...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c43 (Link to this contribution) There is a fundamental difference between us and the Government on how to deal with the deficit. The...
Geraint Davies | WGC c43 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is making a strong case to show that the deficit was the cost of avoiding a dep...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c43 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree. Over the past 11 years, in every Welsh Grand Committee that I have had the privile...
Susan Elan Jones | WGC c43 (Link to this contribution) We are seeing a paradox in the position taken by Government Members. On one level they speak for a c...
Alun Michael | WGC c44 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Vale of Glamorgan appears to have some line that suggests there is still hope fo...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c44 (Link to this contribution) It is a question of uncertainty. An announcement is made one week, and then another is made the next...
Alun Cairns | WGC c44 (Link to this contribution) As the right hon. Gentleman invited me to speak by naming me in his speech, I reassure him that I ha...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c33 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman think it was ironic that when the Secretary of State for Work and Pens...
Lord Hain | WGC c33 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. My hon. Friend is right: it is a reactionary, pernicious policy, and it will affect all our ...
Nick Smith | WGC c33 (Link to this contribution) On that point, does my right hon. Friend agree that it is not justifiable that housing benefit for t...
Lord Hain | WGC c33 (Link to this contribution) No, I am not going to take any more interventions. I said that I wanted to make a bit of progress, a...
Lord Hain | WGC c34-5 (Link to this contribution) I cannot believe this nonsense. The right hon. Lady and the Government are cutting the Welsh Assembl...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c33 (Link to this contribution) It was his Jaguar; I inherited it from him.
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c34 (Link to this contribution) I am not responsible for cuts in the Welsh Assembly budget. The Welsh Assembly Government have decid...
Lord Hain | WGC c33-4 (Link to this contribution) I was very happy to give the right hon. Lady a temporary loan of my Jaguar, but not while she was te...
Lord Hain | WGC c34 (Link to this contribution) No, I am not going to give way. Despite massive cuts in the Welsh Budget—[ Interruption. ] The Secre...
David TC Davies | WGC c35-6 (Link to this contribution) The shadow Secretary of State began his little oration by asking about bond yields on UK gilts. It i...
Chris Evans | WGC c40 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
David TC Davies | WGC c40 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention, but I suggest that having a large deficit with a s...
Chris Evans | WGC c40-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman’s remarks are a complete symptom of what is happening on the Government Benches: ...
David TC Davies | WGC c40 (Link to this contribution) I will give way because I like opposition and I want to hear what the Opposition have to say for the...
Alun Cairns | WGC c41 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend talked about the implications of the deficit increasing out of control and the contri...
David TC Davies | WGC c36 (Link to this contribution) Interest rates that are rising significantly will have a significant impact on the economy, and we w...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c39 (Link to this contribution) Before I call Mr David Davies, I remind Members of the time element. Although I cannot impose time r...
David TC Davies | WGC c39-40 (Link to this contribution) I shall keep that very much in mind, Mr Owen. I am quite missing the shadow Secretary of State for W...
Owen Smith | WGC c40 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I could explain the debt to GDP ratio issue for the hon. Gentleman. The point that my right ...
Owen Smith | WGC c40 (Link to this contribution) Yes, it was. As debt to GDP that is absolutely what it was, and I will show the hon. Gentleman the f...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c57 (Link to this contribution) Order. Let us stick to the comprehensive spending review.
Lord Hart of Tenby | WGC c57 (Link to this contribution) The most frustrating thing of all is the absolute failure of the former Government to accept any res...
Chris Evans | WGC c58 (Link to this contribution) When will the hon. Gentleman mention the comprehensive spending review? I am tired of analysis of th...
Lord Hart of Tenby | WGC c57 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, Mr Owen, I apologise. I was so carried away by the right hon. Gentleman’s intervention that ...
Alun Cairns | WGC c57 (Link to this contribution) May I share some helpful figures? At the last election, the Labour party gained 531,601 votes—
Lord Hart of Tenby | WGC c58-9 (Link to this contribution) Like a good race horse, the hon. Gentleman is a few lengths ahead, but I will be catching up, I assu...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c59 (Link to this contribution) I will take your advice, Mr Owen, and cut my speech in half. I will concentrate only on the effect o...
Owen Smith | WGC c60-2 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Owen. Given that we are very short of ti...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c59 (Link to this contribution) I have read Gerry Holtham’s blog, too; he suggests that there has not actually been a request for no...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c60 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind the Committee that under Standing Orders we have to finish at 4.30 pm. I ask the hon...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c60 (Link to this contribution) As I was saying, Barnett is bad for Wales in the good times, and also plainly bad for Wales in the b...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c19 (Link to this contribution) I am going to make some progress. I note that the budget on the economy and transport by the Wels...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c19 (Link to this contribution) And waste, as my other hon. Friend says. We have to make tough choices. We are going to rebalance th...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c19 (Link to this contribution) Profligacy, as my hon. Friend says.
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c19 (Link to this contribution) If I can ask the hon. Gentleman to wait a bit, I will get to that later in my speech, which I would ...
Elfyn Llwyd | WGC c19 (Link to this contribution) When the Minister speaks of cuts in the transport expenditure, does she realise that the failure to ...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c19 (Link to this contribution) I have an embarrassment of riches here. I will give way to the hon. Member for Dwyfor Meirionnydd.
Lord Hanson of Flint | WGC c19 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady talks about the manufacturing industry, but can she tell the Committee what repr...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c19-20 (Link to this contribution) I speak to my colleagues in Cabinet and other Ministers on a regular basis. I had a meeting specific...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c17 (Link to this contribution) No, not at all. That is a myth. It is a fair settlement by any definition and we do not dictate from...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c17-8 (Link to this contribution) Everybody has got that YouTube moment on their iPods. Much as I respect Plaid and its views, sometim...
Guto Bebb | WGC c17 (Link to this contribution) On the settlement for Wales, is the Secretary of State aware that the Plaid Cymru economic spokesman...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c18 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that intervention, and I am sure that he supports what the W...
Geraint Davies | WGC c18 (Link to this contribution) Given what the right hon. Lady has said, and given that 50,000 students have demonstrated outside Pa...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c18 (Link to this contribution) I very much hope that what my hon. Friend says is not true, because I have seen the magnificent work...
Alun Cairns | WGC c18 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend share my concern that, as a result of yesterday’s announcement, there is a...
Ian Lucas | WGC c18 (Link to this contribution) The Labour Government made choices to invest in higher education and to develop the university secto...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c18 (Link to this contribution) I am not going to rehearse the debates in the Chamber last night, and all the crude party political ...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c16 (Link to this contribution) Order. The Secretary of State has said that she will not give way at this stage.
Alun Michael | WGC c16 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Lady give way?
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c16 (Link to this contribution) I am going to make some progress.
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c16 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman forgets that when we had a major constitutional Bill in 2006, to change the...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c16 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has insistently and persistently refused to call this Committee on the question of cons...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c16 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman does himself a disservice; I was paying him a compliment. The Chief Secreta...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c16-7 (Link to this contribution) By holding this second Welsh Grand Committee meeting, I have already doubled the record of previous ...
Jonathan Edwards | WGC c17 (Link to this contribution) Does the Secretary of State acknowledge that the Welsh settlement is far worse than the ones for the...
Alun Michael | WGC c16 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Caton. In view of the comments that the right hon. Lady has made, can it be ...
Lord Brennan of Canton | WGC c15 (Link to this contribution) I join the Secretary of State in thanking the Economic Secretary for her answers. When the Econom...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c15 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Committee has considered the matter of the implications for Wales of the ...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c15 (Link to this contribution) You were not here. Go back to wherever you come from.
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c15 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman, who appears to be the only honourable gentleman on the Opposition Benche...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c15 (Link to this contribution) I give way to the right hon. Gentleman, because he was always most courteous, and we agreed the arra...
Lord Murphy of Torfaen | WGC c15 (Link to this contribution) It is a good idea to have Ministers from other Departments. When my right hon. Friends the Treasury ...
Roger Williams | WGC c23 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady will be aware that over the years—including the 13 years in which the Labour par...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c23 (Link to this contribution) The improvements concerning Didcot are already reducing the time by 15 minutes. Instead of welcoming...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c23 (Link to this contribution) No, I am reaching the end of my remarks now. On a UK level, the latest growth figures fly in the ...
Jessica Morden | WGC c23 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State has not yet mentioned the Newport passport office. Will she update the Commit...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c23 (Link to this contribution) That is not strictly on CSR, but I know the hon. Lady is fighting hard for her constituents in Newpo...
Lord Hain | WGC c24 (Link to this contribution) I welcome you to the Chair, Mr Caton. May I deal immediately with the point that Secretary of State ...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c24 (Link to this contribution) Order. The speaker is not giving way. Peter Hain.
Lord Hain | WGC c24 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the news that the Prince of Wales is soon to become a father-in-law and that the happy cou...
Owen Smith | WGC c21 (Link to this contribution) It is the money of the Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change.
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c21 (Link to this contribution) It is not his money; it is taxpayers' money.
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c22 (Link to this contribution) On funding reports, I am reliably informed that the Welsh Assembly Government received a Barnett con...
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c22 (Link to this contribution) Order. Let the Secretary of State deal with one intervention before the next one.
Chris Ruane | WGC c22 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c22 (Link to this contribution) Just sit down and let me finish.
Owen Smith | WGC c22 (Link to this contribution) It is absolutely accurate, of course, to say that economic development is devolved. However, the mon...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c22 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the hon. Gentleman will join me in inviting the Minister to come here to explain. Ins...
Elfyn Llwyd | WGC c20 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Caton. The Secretary of State obviously does not understand the process invo...
Lord Hain | WGC c21 (Link to this contribution) As the Secretary of State knows, the £20 billion to £30 billion cost of the Severn barrage is privat...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c21 (Link to this contribution) That is a myth. We do not intend to review Severn tidal power before 2015. However, we have agreed t...
Owen Smith | WGC c21 (Link to this contribution) We are pleased that Wylfa is on the shortlist of eight sites. However, will the Secretary of State e...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c20 (Link to this contribution) Now Opposition Members are upset when arrangements are made for a Welsh Grand. I urge the hon. Me...
Nick Smith | WGC c20 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way on investment?
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c20-1 (Link to this contribution) I will not. I want to deal specifically with some projects that were raised in the context of the CS...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c21 (Link to this contribution) First, economic development is devolved. [Hon. Members: ““Energy is not devolved.””] Economic develo...
Lord Hain | WGC c25 (Link to this contribution) That is simply not the case. As I will explain in due course, if we look at the picture since 2008 a...
Lord Hain | WGC c25 (Link to this contribution) I will give way in a few moments. As we have heard this morning, Ministers claim that the economic c...
Alun Cairns | WGC c25 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Hain | WGC c25 (Link to this contribution) I will make my argument and then happily give way. By bringing down Government debt, we effectively ...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c24 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman deny that Standard & Poor’s has put this country on the watch list?
Lord Hain | WGC c24-5 (Link to this contribution) One credit rating agency gave a signal to that effect, but the others did not. When one looks at the...
Guto Bebb | WGC c25 (Link to this contribution) Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that long-term interest rates in the UK have fallen by almost 1% s...
Lord Hart of Tenby | WGC c25 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman will have to forgive me; I am a Welsh Grand Committee virgin, having not at...
Lord Hain | WGC c26 (Link to this contribution) I have already been challenged on the fact that there was a low rate on UK Government bonds. The int...
Alun Cairns | WGC c26 (Link to this contribution) This comes back to the core of the argument about debt. Will the right hon. Gentleman confirm that a...
David Jones | WGC c27 (Link to this contribution) I thank the right hon. Gentleman for giving way, and I am grateful to him for the interesting altern...
Lord Hain | WGC c26 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way in due course. That was then, but what about now? Did we lose control of spendin...
David Jones | WGC c26 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Hain | WGC c26 (Link to this contribution) I want to make progress, or no one else will be able to speak. I turn to annual Government borrow...
Lord Hain | WGC c26 (Link to this contribution) There are all sorts of reasons for that, and they are nothing to do with the topic the Committee is ...
Lord Hain | WGC c27 (Link to this contribution) It may have been too long, Mr Caton, but it was very good. My hon. Friend is absolutely right. As...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c28 (Link to this contribution) As the right hon. Gentleman is presenting this image of a responsible Government, perhaps he will te...
Lord Hain | WGC c27-8 (Link to this contribution) I shall come on to that point. And by playing a massive game of financial jiggery-pokery, the financ...
Lord Hain | WGC c28 (Link to this contribution) I am coming to all of that, but I think it is important for this Welsh Grand Committee to have a ser...
Lord Hain | WGC c27 (Link to this contribution) We were, as the hon. Gentleman know, hit by the large—[ Interruption. ] I shall answer the question....
Alun Cairns | WGC c29 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Hain | WGC c29 (Link to this contribution) I want to finish my argument about why public spending rose. Some of the increase was deliberate, bu...
Alun Cairns | WGC c29 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Ian Lucas | WGC c29 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is making a powerful and important case. Is it not right that the consequence o...
Hywel Williams | WGC c28 (Link to this contribution) On the point about regulation, is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the current Chancellor, in his...
Chris Evans | WGC c28 (Link to this contribution) May I ask my right hon. Friend’s advice? If we had been so bad at managing the economy as the Conser...
Lord Hain | WGC c28 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a very telling point. If we were the reckless, irresponsible Government that th...
Lord Hain | WGC c30-1 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend. Growth could stall in the new year, and slower growth means few jobs. B...
Lord Hain | WGC c30 (Link to this contribution) The OBR also said, in paragraph 1.3, that the recovery from this recession will be slower and more s...
Ian Lucas | WGC c30 (Link to this contribution) Is it not the case that this Government have so little to say about growth that they have put back t...
Lord Hain | WGC c29-30 (Link to this contribution) Not yet. Government borrowing must, without doubt, be brought down and public sector debt reduced...
David Jones | WGC c30 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman mentioned the danger of a lack of growth, but this week the Office for Budg...
Cheryl Gillan | WGC c31 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for giving way. First, let me correct something. We have a...
Lord Hain | WGC c31 (Link to this contribution) Before this global financial crisis, there were 3 million more jobs in the British economy than when...
Alun Cairns | WGC c31 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for finally giving way. Specifically on this point about j...
Lord Hain | WGC c32 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that any Member—certainly not any responsible Welsh constituency Member—should applau...
Lord Hain | WGC c32 (Link to this contribution) I want to make some progress, because others need to speak. This Government’s actions have hit Wa...
Jonathan Evans | WGC c32 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Chair of Welsh Grand Committee | WGC c32 (Link to this contribution) Order. Mr Hain has made it clear that he will not give way at this stage.
Lord Hain | WGC c32 (Link to this contribution) I am going to make some progress. The Government have handled the whole issue badly, showing arrogan...
Lord Hain | WGC c31 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State did not mention in the statement that most of the projected fall in unemploym...
Guto Bebb | WGC c31-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank the right hon. Gentleman for giving way; it is appreciated. He will be aware that the report...
Lord Hain | WGC c32 (Link to this contribution) What I said, Mr Caton, was that we supported S4C in launching its judicial review of the Government’...
David Jones | WGC c32 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Caton. I am sure that the right hon. Gentleman would not wish to mislead the...
Subjects
Public expenditure Wales
Link
View this Grand Committee proceedings (HC) on www.publications.parliament.uk